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Webb was just atrocious. Pretty much every single decision he made yesterday was wrong. For both teams. We got our fair share of luck too but Utd's second penalty?!?! Are you fucking kidding me???

Our midfield is so utterly dreadful. I'm so glad that Ess is back because he was superb yesterday. Gave everything he had even though after the 60th or so minute he had barely anything left in his tank. What a player.

Our tactics yesterday were much better. With Mata in the hole more often and having Ess back certainly helped a great deal. But our execution and final ball is so piss poor!! We had so much of the possession in the first half but couldn't do a single thing with it.

I'm done with Torres. He had a decent game overall but that chance he had. Dear lord. Get the fuck out. Can't wait to see him leave. Sorry mate, didn't work for you here. Never going to work. Good luck elsewhere.

And seriously guys, don't let the 3-0 lead fool you. We were nowhere near as good as Utd, let alone good enough to have a 3-0 lead. It just happened to turn out that way and fair play to the players (read: Mata, who is a genius) to achieve that lead but we were average from the 1st minute to the 94th.

Of course, not having Lampard, Ramires, JT and Cole who are/have been our most important players + leaders on the pitch showed.

Well done to Cahill. Very solid debut for him. Tremendous pressure he must have been under against the pacy & intelligent Rooney, Welbeck and co. He did make a couple of mistakes but overall a very very good performance by him.

Finally, Mata is amazing. He is a stunning, unbelievable, unreal, majestic little GEM. He doesn't deserve to be playing in such a poor, poor team. I hope we can keep him even if we don't get CL football this season - which I'd say is pretty likely IMO. We need to build our team around HIM.

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total and upper nonsense... we where the better side till the first penalty... i was watching it with 2 Utd fans and my neutral uncle... all told Chelsea where much better and thats the truth... dont FOOL YOU...

Only in the second half after we got a lead and immediately grabbed a second.

It was a good performance considering so many first-teamer's were out at the same time.However, even if full credit should go to the players, it was indeed very fortunate we grabbed a 3-0 lead.

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A comment from Sky's match report:

S Parsons (Manchester United fan) says...

"Chelsea thought they deserved to win? One goal of class only. The defence is non exsisent and man u should have had another penalty. The manager is disallusional to think they should have won the game. "

Erm, I think you mean "delusional" hoss. I'm not an expert on the English language, but that's not a word. This is rather fitting though: Their players contrive penalties, and their supporters contrive words.

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Manure have few rivals when it comes to arrogance. Starting with their manager it percolates through all levels from ex players like Macari

to the present squad like the odious Rio and to their glory hunting obnoxious fans . All this encouraged by an adoring media.

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total and upper nonsense... we where the better side till the first penalty... i was watching it with 2 Utd fans and my neutral uncle... all told Chelsea where much better and thats the truth... dont FOOL YOU...

We were the better side in terms of having possession. What did we do with that possession? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. That goal came out of NOTHING. We just passed passed passed without ever creating a single good chance that wasn't a long distance shot or from a set piece.

They looked FAR MORE threatening when they had possession even in the 1st half. Every time they got the ball, you genuinely felt as if they could score. With us, nope.

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I hate these fucken reporters asking questions like "What do you think about the fans booing wio?". Just shut the fuck up they're really getting on my nerves I wish I had 1v1 fight with them that's how much I despise them.

I share your ire SHM.

As the slow decline of the printed media progresses due to the internet, they desperately try to drag out stories based on hate and sensationalism in a hysterical attept at attention

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Right after having time to cool of and really think about the game this is what i think.

i think there was still problems on our game, we were alot better then the last few games.

when we went 3 up i dont understand why we didnt do a better job at shutting up shop, there first pen i can kinda live with ive seen them goving before and for us in the past, the second pen was a massive joke no way on earth that was a pen, the 3rd goal was our own fault nobody picked up the pea wanker.

I really dont understand why Malouda is still a Chelsea player how many times did he give the ball away yesterday i lost count.

its easy to blame the ref for the way the game went but at the end of the day why was we letting them play in and around our box to evan get a sniff at getting pens.

i love David Luiz more and more everytime he plays, gotta be our future captin, Cahill had a good game. Mata u little minx that goal was AMAZING

i think we were alot better then weeks past got unlucky on the night.

as always onwards and upwards KTBFFH CAREFREE FOR LIFE!!!

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I remember something similar a few years ago. Spurs leading Man Utd, Webb gives a penalty that was never a penalty in a million years, Man Utd get the momentum from that and go on to win the game (and the title), vintage Howard Webb.

Yes Anders, bacon face has performed the same way year in, year out. As for this instance he berated the fourth official into submission in the first half and low and behold Webb does what he does naturally for them, its no wonder opposing fans have him dressed up in scum tops - nothing could be more appropriate. I won't disagree that we didn't contribute to losing the lead but Webb gave them the imitative and ultimately the momentum and belief to get something from the game. Its not sour grapes as Jose was a master at it for us and he had Ferguson's measure in the psychological department, Benitez got a lot of stick a few years back for his rant about Ferguson's demeanor but he had most of that spot on, Andre alluded to it a little in his interview by stating that it should be a level playing ground when the top sides are playing against eachother but it hasn't been with his experience thus far, mentioning the 2 off sides goals at scum Trafford as another example.

You just know Ferguson's going to come out with something after yet more fortune for his side, now giving the linesman some stick ffs! It's just a clever tactic to deflect the situation so that people in football i.e officials don't view this game as a gimme from Howard fucking Webb, thus continuing the psychological edge in games to help them win the title, Ferguson knows he will need all the help they can get because City are better than they are and we have seen recently the decisions going against Mancini and co, yet it doesn't surprise me one iota!

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one of the best momets yesterday was when Mata scored i was jumping around shounting 'get in what a goal' then my two year old neice jumped in and went ,goal uncle Billy goal Chelsea' best thing about that was my Brother in law was sitting with us and hes an Aresnal fan LMFO

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No, I don't think we would get those penalty decisions at Old Trafford. And that bothers me. But it doesn't change the fact that it's understandable to give it. I really can't see how you can just state that it wasn't a penalty. Ivanovic was backing from the challing, but, unfortunately he caught Welbeck. Both were very soft, but it's not like those decisions that went against us vs Barcelona a few years ago, it's not like Ivanovic or Sturridge didn't touch Evra and Welbeck.

Malouda had a really bad game, and he isn't good enough for Chelsea. I won't argue with that. But come on, arguing that maybe he should've put Bertrand on the left wing for the first time against United? He's okay going forward but do you have any idea if he is even capable of playing on the left wing? Why not just put Ivanovic there, I mean, he's okay at going forward.

And I don't really see any other option than to have Malouda on the left wing under these circumstances. At least not if you want to have Mata in the middle.

Like I said in my earlier post, Sturridge was having a bad game. I don't think anyone can deny that. And he doesn't track back enough, and isn't good enough in defending. Malouda, despite all his flaws, does track back. And come on, how do we know Sturridge's pace would mean Evra would get another yellow card.. to not subsitute Sturridge solely on that would have been ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I'm not sure it was the right subsitution, but under the circumstances I definately understand it.

Sorry fella but i suggest you take a good long look at the second penalty again? Welbeck kicked the back of Ivanovich's foot and done the triple selco to get a pen, Webb didn't need a second chance to give them something and he didn't disappoint! (see my post to the big drog about the consequence of that decision) A pen is given when a defensive player commits whats deemed as a foul of some description, Ivanovich never touched Welbeck, it was the other way round so cannot in a million years be given as a penalty?

As for Bertrand, i stated before the game on this thread and in my previous post that he should of played at LB but was pushed out in favour of a player that cannot defend at RB let alone LB so was absolutely bemused/perplexed by that choice but AVB got away with it, the fact that members on here have stated Malouda was at fault for 2 of the goals and also said that all he done was give the ball away proves my point about him not starting and should of been substituted. Agree it would of been a gamble to play Bertrand there but could he of done any worse than the useless under performing Malouda? Like i said i saw him at Reading, and have many friends that are Reading season tickets holders and they all said the same thing to me about Bertrand and that he was terrific going forward but needed to improve defensively which i understand he has since his return to us. Bertrand must be distraught and i wouldn't blame him if he slapped in a transfer request in the summer.

I won't disagree that Sturridge wasn't having the best of games but he produced the goal in the first half and is capable of doing that were as Malouda has offered nothing for weeks, as i said Sturridge is a threat and that coupled with the fact Evra was on a yellow should of been enough and easy decision for AVB, just my way of seeing things doesn't mean i'm right of course.

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