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Of course we could use a dominant CM, any team in the world could be improved by Pogba. But I think I can objectively say that we need a right winger and a CB much more than we need a central midfielder. CM is probably the only place we have top class starting players in Cesc and Matic and very good backup options in Mikel and Ramires, and even some very exciting youngsters in Ake and RLC.

We'll agree to disagree, i think a partner for Cesc and Matic, someone who could help in some of Cesc duties and give us an option to create possesion, is more important than an RW. Dont think the team is able to be dominant enough in the more difficulte games, and i dont think Mikel and Ramires are good partners in the big games.

Laugh1ngMan,

No one said we need to buy servel "good" players instead of spending so much on Pogba, people think you could sign two world class players for that amount and they could be right.

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We'll agree to disagree, i think a partner for Cesc and Matic, someone who could help in some of Cesc duties and give us an option to create possesion, is more important than an RW. Dont think the team is able to be dominant enough in the more difficulte games, and i dont think Mikel and Ramires are good partners in the big games.

Laugh1ngMan,

No one said we need to buy servel "good" players instead of spending so much on Pogba, people think you could sign two world class players for that amount and they could be right.

I highly doubt there are two world class players available for us for 80M € this summer

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If Pogba goes to PSG, we should try to buy from them that cunt Verratti. He is the perfect midfielder for us.

i agree, i have said before Verratti would be top of my list for summer signings for us.

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I highly doubt there are two world class players available for us for 80M € this summer

Yeah, it will be hard. Griezman+Gundogan maybe for 80-90. Depends if you call Gundogan a world class player post-injury, its a gamble.

My gut feeling is that we'll sign Griezman+Schniderlin.

If Verratti will be up for grabs all Europe will be after him, like with Pogba.

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Pogba is a classy player but he came from somewhere... He started in a youth academy and guess what, we have one of the best youth academys in the world now.

Lets bring our own Pogna through... In the form of RLC!

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The thing is, Griezman definetly isn't world class, and Koke might become one. (Don't get me wrong, i like those players and would be happy to get them)

But the thing is: those are all Atletico level players and if that is the level we aspire to be (hard to beat, outsiders for champions league etc.) than that is fine. But you ain't gonna reach the level of Barca/Real with those players and that is the level we should aspire too i feel and with Mou at the helm, increased revenue for the english teams with the new TV deal it should be possible

We shouldn't be scared to spend a little more on a single player. So if we are looking for reinforcement in midfield all we should look at is:

Koke>Pogba?

I think not

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The thing is, Griezman definetly isn't world class, and Koke might become one. (Don't get me wrong, i like those players and would be happy to get them)

But the thing is: those are all Atletico level players and if that is the level we aspire to be (hard to beat, outsiders for champions league etc.) than that is fine. But you ain't gonna reach the level of Barca/Real with those players and that is the level we should aspire too i feel and with Mou at the helm, increased revenue for the english teams with the new TV deal it should be possible

We shouldn't be scared to spend a little more on a single player. So if we are looking for reinforcement in midfield all we should look at is:

Koke>Pogba?

I think not

I can't agree about Koke and Griezmann being only "Atletico level" players, but if we can't sign Pogba, who would you go for?

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I can't agree about Koke and Griezmann being only "Atletico level" players, but if we can't sign Pogba, who would you go for?

Maybe not Koke but Griezmann definetly isn't the player that is gonna elevate a team to a next level.

That said I would be happy to get any of them but if i had to choose between Koke or Pogba (for more money) it would be Pogba

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Don't let the height and frame fool you, Tomo. Pogba is no player for a role in front in of defence. He's very much a player for the Lampard role in terms of positional freedom, moving forward at any opportunity.

With that said your ideal 4-3-3 involves an anchor(matic) a box to box(pogba) and a playmaker (fab)

No matter how you want to slice it pogba is a great addition. Even in 4-2-3-1 he can function as a box to box like Ramires.

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I think right now our market objectives may end up with two options.

OPTION 1.

Koke Matic

Fabregas

Griezmann Hazard

Diego Costa

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Option 2.

Pogba Matic

Fabregas

Willian Hazard

Diego Costa

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Obviously Pogba is a world superclass can be one of the best players in the world we coming years, but 75 million pounds is an lot of money just to sign Messi with 22 years knowing what he will do in the future.

We have opted for an economic model that can ensure our future in the elite of football for the coming years and become a team to compete face to Face with Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayer now ... and we can not change everything for a player young man who just has succeeded in Calcio as if we were talking about Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo.

We need a player with ability to score goals for Right - Winger and Griezmann has scored more than 25 goals for a team like Atletico de Madrid (a team with an extremely defensive role). I do not know if the clause of Griezmann are EUR 30 or 60 million (22 or 44 million pounds) I do not see no player better for our Right - Winger than Griezmann.

And I am convinced that Jose is totally in love with the game Koke. For me the perfect complement for our midfield to try return to recover the sensations of the beginning of the season with a very fast ball circulation and with great intensity.

I just would do something crazy to sign Lionel Messi, and I prefer to offer 100 million pounds (135 million euros) to sign Messi than offer 75 million pounds (101 million euros) to sign Pogba and send Fabregas to Barcelona to beg Messi on behalf all of us to that he signed for Chelsea. (by the way... Supporter started following leomessi. 16s) (by the way ... joking)

I think there we have to be cautious and think coolly and I think it's better Koke (30 million pounds + Filipe) + Griezmann (22 or 44 million pounds) + Varane (30 million pounds) = regeneration through 82 or 102 million pounds.

I vote for option 1

Regards to ALL.

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All I'm saying is elite level teams have elite level players. If we want to compete on that level we need more than just hazard. Pogba will go to the highest bidder no doubt but we need to be amongst the bidders.

I don't buy this suggestion that buying two or three good players will get us to the next level. We need the elite and few will argue that a midfield of pogba, matic and cesc with Ramires and a young Ruben wouldn't rule the roost for years to come. If you win the midfield battle you will likely win the game.

At some point we're gonna have to break the bank again for a big time player and I just don't see that many im willing to break the bank for. Sure we can sign Griezmann and Koke and we would likely strengthen our already strong grip on the prem but in my estimation that still leaves us short of the big guns. We can't let Shitty or psg out bid us for pogba. I will accept him going to real or barca but not for the others.

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All I'm saying is elite level teams have elite level players. If we want to compete on that level we need more than just hazard. Pogba will go to the highest bidder no doubt but we need to be amongst the bidders.

I don't buy this suggestion that buying two or three good players will get us to the next level. We need the elite and few will argue that a midfield of pogba, matic and cesc with Ramires and a young Ruben wouldn't rule the roost for years to come. If you win the midfield battle you will likely win the game.

At some point we're gonna have to break the bank again for a big time player and I just don't see that many im winning to break the bank for. Sure we can sign Griezmann and Koke and we would likely strengthen our already strong grip on the prem but in my estimation that still leaves us short of the big guns. We can't let Shitty or psg out bid us for pogba. I will accept him going to real or barca but not for the others.

Take Barca out of the equation. He ain't waiting a year.
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All I'm saying is elite level teams have elite level players. If we want to compete on that level we need more than just hazard. Pogba will go to the highest bidder no doubt but we need to be amongst the bidders.

I don't buy this suggestion that buying two or three good players will get us to the next level. We need the elite and few will argue that a midfield of pogba, matic and cesc with Ramires and a young Ruben wouldn't rule the roost for years to come. If you win the midfield battle you will likely win the game.

At some point we're gonna have to break the bank again for a big time player and I just don't see that many im winning to break the bank for. Sure we can sign Griezmann and Koke and we would likely strengthen our already strong grip on the prem but in my estimation that still leaves us short of the big guns. We can't let Shitty or psg out bid us for pogba. I will accept him going to real or barca but not for the others.

Im all for Pogba but i cant see how Koke+Griezmann "leaves us short of the big guns" and Pogba supposedly bring us to the same level. I mean, Pogba imo is better than Koke or Griezmann, but its just one player with all the respect for his talents. Like with Pogba, Koke+Griezmann will make us complete imo, and imo we'll be able to compete every year with Barcelona, Real and Bayern. On paper off course.

You always need to remember Mourinho would never play a high line such as the one Bayern and Barca played yesterday, if we'll play anyone of those 3 teams he'll sit back no metter what players he'll have because in his opinion its the most safe option, its the safer bet and Jose doesnt like bets. If Jose watcehd yesterday's game im sure he thought "thats too much of a 50-50 fight, i wouldnt want to be so exposed". And because all of those teams like to have possesion no metter what, a great Chelsea team with Jose could be the huge rival in any time. My point is, even if we cant get Superstar Pogba to get our squad to be "Fantasy XI" like those 3 (although Bayern needs changes, ageing squad), i believe Jose could bring us to that level with the right players in.

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