Gary Cahill

[didierforever 7,349]

so today was cahill's fault??? ohh he must have pulled cech 6 yards out of position and made etoo lose balls in great positions which made stoke counter.

[lucio 5,418]

so today was cahill's fault??? ohh he must have pulled cech 6 yards out of position and made etoo lose balls in great positions which made stoke counter.

no but he see's fit to back off 50 yards for ireland to score.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

TBH I like Ivanovic as a CB more then Cahill,By continuously playing Brana as a RB we are missing out on a very good CB imo not to mention allowing Brana games at CB would also free Azpi to play on his favoured side.Last year Luiz-Brana was a very reliable partnership for us.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

so today was cahill's fault??? ohh he must have pulled cech 6 yards out of position and made etoo lose balls in great positions which made stoke counter.

hes the new scapegoat. Mikel must be a happy man lol.

[robsblubot 3,595]

so today was cahill's fault??? ohh he must have pulled cech 6 yards out of position and made etoo lose balls in great positions which made stoke counter.

They are not mutually exclusive: Cech made a big mistake while Cahill could/should have done better.

Let's not make a point that our defense and defenders have been good after conceding 6 goals against bottom feeders...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Had a really bad game, even when we were in complete control in the first half he made several dangerous mistakes. And his passing was way off from the start. Would like to see Iva or even Kalas against Steaua in his place in mid week since Luiz is still out.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

no but he see's fit to back off 50 yards for ireland to score.

I would pin that one on Mikel actually..

Anyway Cahill yeah...good squad player yes...regular starter, no.

[didierforever 7,349]

no but he see's fit to back off 50 yards for ireland to score.

very true. he should have gone onto block ireland's shot with crouch running behind him and iva playing him on. also somehow mikel and azpi's positioning does not get into the picture at all but GC's mistake is the sole reason.

[bluesman2610 1,415]

oh so now we are going to critisize cahill for what he did 3 months ago playing for england and not chelsea. excellent!!!

steven ireland played today for stoke I am pretty sure what he meant

[didierforever 7,349]

They are not mutually exclusive: Cech made a big mistake while Cahill could/should have done better.

Let's not make a point that our defense and defenders have been good after conceding 6 goals against bottom feeders...

GC could have done better for the 1st goal but so could have so many other players.

and that is not the main point. azpilicueta had a horrendous match. he literally got owned by walters (walters for fuck sake). but no one, NOT A SINGLE PERSON has even made post/comment/quote on his thread.

and now look at GC's thread, he is the new scape-goat, specially for all the luiz-fans and that troll henrique, who inspite of what might happen on the match find a way to blame GC.

and that is what bothers me. GC had a bad match but he was as bad as JT/iva and better than azpi. if u want to pin-point mistakes and single out one fellow for the defeat and 3 goals that we have conceded, then do it at the team, not just GC.

[The only place to be 11,313]

no but he see's fit to back off 50 yards for ireland to score.

Ireland wasn't Cahill's man.

Terry went to Walters who had fouled Azpi out of the game.

Terry assigned Ireland to Mikel, but Mikel couldn't get back to him.

Ivanovic was too far up the right side of the pitch.

Cahill was left to mark Crouch.

[robsblubot 3,595]

GC could have done better for the 1st goal but so could have so many other players.

and that is not the main point. azpilicueta had a horrendous match. he literally got owned by walters (walters for fuck sake). but no one, NOT A SINGLE PERSON has even made post/comment/quote on his thread.

and now look at GC's thread, he is the new scape-goat, specially for all the luiz-fans and that troll henrique, who inspite of what might happen on the match find a way to blame GC.

and that is what bothers me. GC had a bad match but he was as bad as JT/iva and better than azpi. if u want to pin-point mistakes and single out one fellow for the defeat and 3 goals that we have conceded, then do it at the team, not just GC.

Our defense has been horrible for a very long time now; ignore it all u want but the number of goals conceded is very telling.

So it's ok for u and others to pinpoint luiz's mistakes but others can't pinpoint Garry's mistakes And deficiencies because other players were equaly as bad?! Spare me please.

I don't think he was horrible as to me Garry is always consistently average-decent but our ball possession has also been pretty bad of late and both defenders inability to pass the ball is hurting the team. That's why I dislike the pairing of similar players-always have.

Let me just make my point clearer without bias: Luiz is the best defender when in possession that I've ever seen play the game. Say however, that for one reason or another Chelsea/Jose style doesn't work for Luiz, and we sold him and bought Phil Jones from United (won't happen I know). That's a pairing that would've worked because he's a ball playing CB; he could pair either GC or JT and we'd have complementary attributes in them.

BTW, it might be because Azpi has been playing on the left of late, where he clearly struggles - that's on Mourinho I guess.