🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Gary Cahill

[zolayes 14,489]

he seems out of form .. this happens ,, needs to sort it out though

[didierforever 7,349]

He needs to be "rested" for a few games.

i dont think there should be quotes for rested. he should actually be RESTED. has played 90 minutes in every match for us except for the maribor double header. has played 90 minutes for england in all their matches. the guy actually needs a rest.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Don't be scared, stick Zouma in......either that or shift in Brana and move Azpi to RB with Luis LB.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Terry's football intelligence compared to cahill is like Comparing Iniesta to lee catermole

[CHOULO19 24,332]

i dont think there should be quotes for rested. he should actually be RESTED. has played 90 minutes in every match for us except for the maribor double header. has played 90 minutes for england in all their matches. the guy actually needs a rest.

No he needs to be dropped because he's been pretty terrible of late. While he may well be tired and needs a rest that doesn't completely excuse his current form because some of the mistakes he's made, especially when it comes to decision making, have absolutely nothing to do with fatigue.

[didierforever 7,349]

No he needs to be dropped because he's been pretty terrible of late. While he may well be tired and needs a rest that doesn't completely excuse his current form because some of the mistakes he's made, especially when it comes to decision making, have absolutely nothing to do with fatigue.

actually fatigue (specially mental fatigue), forces a person into poor decision making, be it in life or sports. for eg - i remember GC going into a tackle at newcastle near about the half line and missing the slide tackle against newcastle. i honestly dont remember GC ever doing that. if anything, he leaves tackling an opponent to the last minute and keeps backing off.

he actually seems tired and should be properly rested. i really hope we dont see him partnering zouma against derby.

[Tomo 21,751]

Remember when he first joined people were comparing him to Terry in his prime?

Even now Terry is much better.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

We're winning so we need something to complain about, yes, but Cahill is playing poorly IMO.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Remember when he first joined people were comparing him to Terry in his prime?

Even now Terry is much better.

You are being nice to Cahill.

Terry is a world class defender who should always be the very first pick for England.

Cahill is a good dependable player and that pretty much all he's ever going to be. Nothing wrong with that btw.

[Stats 7,142]

Jesus Christ. Talk about overreaction. He has had a recent spell of inconsistent performances but we kept a clean sheet. He conceced one free kick today and made one sideward header. Was he poor? Clean sheet, won majority of his tussles and we still get his critics trying to bash him. I really don't understand. I thought our defence was solid. It is funny how people think he is playing poor but he continues to be a regular fixture in this team. Azpi was rotated and Luis came in. We don't see Cahill getting dropped. It seems like me and @didierforever are the only Cahill supporters on this forum. And of course Jose Mourinho. I get some of the constructive criticism but the level I am seeing at is way OTT imo.

If it was so bad, Cahill would have been dropped. And before anyone says we don't have any adequate cover. Zouma has done very well when he has came in and Ivanovic could play at CB and Mourinho knows he can count on him there. If Mourinho thought that he was playing as bad as you lot are making out he would have been dropped.

[boshman 1,073]

He is out of form, no need to rip him to pieces!

Having said that, Drop him for a few games as he is clearly struggling. It's time to give Zouma his chance.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Mourinho provided his thoughts on the bookings for Gary Cahill and Willian, given for simulation

‘I didn’t see it on TV because I was far away but I don’t believe Cahill dived. If you tell me I’m wrong, and he dived, then something happened. They blocked his run, there was a touch or he lost his balance, but that big, honest guy, I don’t believe he dived in the opposition box.

‘With Willian, why would he dive on the midfield line? If he wants to dive he would dive in the box. Last year he had a red card from Mr Foy and after we realised it was not even a touch on [Fabian] Delph, so I don’t think it’s a big deal.’

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Remember when he first joined people were comparing him to Terry in his prime?

Even now Terry is much better.

While that is true, a lot of people were also saying, from the start, that he's an above average defender, but nothing more. Some are saying that the criticism of him is knee-jerk or an overreaction, but that's simply not true. Even during last season, there were plenty of people, even on here like The Skipper, Robguima, myself...etc. who always maintained that, yes, he's having a magnificent season and has deserved his place in the start XI, but he will always be a limited player and moving forward, quality wise, he should not be more than an excellent squad player at this level.

[Barbara 15,149]

He needs to be dropped ASAP because unfortunately he became a walking liability.

Will we wait until he really compromises a result to admit that? He was terrible today, should have been sent off twice - and I'll be honest, I said on my Twitter feed (because I had problems accessing the forum today during the match) that I wish he was sent off when he received the yellow (come on, that was a straight red any day of the week). If he gets a straight red with a tackle like that, he misses 5 matches in a row and sorry if I think that would be an early Christmas gift.

I don't remember exactly the context, but in addition to the stupid dive and the terrible tackle, when the game was still 1x0 early in the match, he almost created the best chance for Hull in the entire match. I wish I could recollect exactly what he's done, but it was ridiculous. Then later on he misplaced a pass and that it almost gave them yet another attack chance. The only reason we didn't concede was because Hull sucks big balls.

And people saying the old 'knee jerk' reaction or even using the stupid argument that we've been winning, should wake up. So far we've been lucky that his mistakes - which happen religiously EVERY FRIGGING MATCH didn't cost us anything (except you know, three points against Newcastle and most of the goals we've conceded in the last two months). Just because others - normally JT, Azpi or Courtois - fix his messes or the opponents players don't capitalize the gifts he keeps giving, it doesn't mean he hasn't been a liability. Come on, it's as clear as light.

Zouma isn't anywhere near the end product, he isn't that great (yet), but he's definitely in better form than Cahill and I wish he was sent off today. We would have won the match anyway despite looking terrible (we're lucky Hull's routine is looking even worse than we did for once).

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

I love Cahill, but after witnessing yesterday game, I agree he should be replaced by Ivan or Zouma. Just to send the right message, if you're playing not good, your place is not secure anymore. Jose did that to Schurrle, I don“t see a reason why he couldn't do it to Cahill.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

What is this bullshit everyone wants Cahill off all suddenly?

Yes he isnt world class CB, he never was and currently in not best form, but he always put good performance when needed.

Also Zouma in better form after two games and better CB? I like the kid, think he will be top defender eventualy, but right now how can people say he is in superb form after two games? When he will play 5 consecutive games and against top opponents for whole 90mins, I will make judgement how good he is already and in what form he is...but not after 2 games ffs. He showed glimpses, but that is with every young player when given chance. Im all for giving Zouma chance now that Cahill isnt in best shape, but to say that Zouma is in better form is ridiculous. Everyone is jumping on Zouma bandwagon after Cahill mistakes, but when Zouma gets run of games, he could make plenty of mistakes and that wont be good for development. Put him slowly in games and eventualy he will break through. Varane needed one season too to get ahead of Pepe who was shit back then, but then got better. Cahill can still make improvement, there is reason why Mou plays him for two seasons...

Anyway, Im glad Mou makes these decisions and not some people here who repeat themselves like broken record due to their personal disliking of Cahill, just waiting him to make mistake, so that they can write how right they were...

[dkim2 73]

Anyone with right mind knows Cahill is a huge liability of Chelsea team and is arguably one of the worse defenders Chelsea had in last decades. Only thing makes him sticking to our lineup is him being English. He was great last season when we played defensive minded football. We set low blocks so opposition forwards do not have space to run into Mr. Backpedal Cahill but at the same time it greatly hindered our ability to break down parked buses. Mr. Backpedaling Cahill doesn't suit the high defensive line we now play due to his lack of athleticism and composure on ball. He is okay squad player but should not be a starting XI week in and week out. Zouma is still raw, but at least he has supreme athleticism and much better 1 on 1 defense compared to Cahill.

[iseah100 5,612]

Let him rest till the end of the year and rotate Zouma-Christensen )

[Stats 7,142]

What is this bullshit everyone wants Cahill off all suddenly?

Yes he isnt world class CB, he never was and currently in not best form, but he always put good performance when needed.

Also Zouma in better form after two games and better CB? I like the kid, think he will be top defender eventualy, but right now how can people say he is in superb form after two games? When he will play 5 consecutive games and against top opponents for whole 90mins, I will make judgement how good he is already and in what form he is...but not after 2 games ffs. He showed glimpses, but that is with every young player when given chance. Im all for giving Zouma chance now that Cahill isnt in best shape, but to say that Zouma is in better form is ridiculous. Everyone is jumping on Zouma bandwagon after Cahill mistakes, but when Zouma gets run of games, he could make plenty of mistakes and that wont be good for development. Put him slowly in games and eventualy he will break through. Varane needed one season too to get ahead of Pepe who was shit back then, but then got better. Cahill can still make improvement, there is reason why Mou plays him for two seasons...

Anyway, Im glad Mou makes these decisions and not some people here who repeat themselves like broken record due to their personal disliking of Cahill, just waiting him to make mistake, so that they can write how right they were...

Like I was saying before, if Cahill was half as bad as people were making out, Mourinho would have dropped him. It is as simple as that. Mourinho would not be frightened to play Ivanovic or Zouma at the back if he thought Cahill was a liability. Ivanovic has had many solid games for us in that position so it is not as if he is not trusted. Cahill makes errors, I accept that but the level people are making it sound at is as if he is doing Kolo Toure-esque mistakes. People will hunt down any error he makes but ignore the positives. He did one bad challenge which was the fault of our DM for being sloppy in possession but apart from that he literally won neaely every single tussle he had whether that was in the air or on foot.

But your last sentence, couldn't agree any more.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

What is this bullshit everyone wants Cahill off all suddenly?

Yes he isnt world class CB, he never was and currently in not best form, but he always put good performance when needed.

Also Zouma in better form after two games and better CB? I like the kid, think he will be top defender eventualy, but right now how can people say he is in superb form after two games? When he will play 5 consecutive games and against top opponents for whole 90mins, I will make judgement how good he is already and in what form he is...but not after 2 games ffs. He showed glimpses, but that is with every young player when given chance. Im all for giving Zouma chance now that Cahill isnt in best shape, but to say that Zouma is in better form is ridiculous. Everyone is jumping on Zouma bandwagon after Cahill mistakes, but when Zouma gets run of games, he could make plenty of mistakes and that wont be good for development. Put him slowly in games and eventualy he will break through. Varane needed one season too to get ahead of Pepe who was shit back then, but then got better. Cahill can still make improvement, there is reason why Mou plays him for two seasons...

Anyway, Im glad Mou makes these decisions and not some people here who repeat themselves like broken record due to their personal disliking of Cahill, just waiting him to make mistake, so that they can write how right they were...

No genuine Chelsea fan wants Cahill to fail and make mistakes. The fact is his performances are poor and certainly not up to the standard he was consistently reaching last year. That is a concern for me.