Tomo 21,751 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jason said: At the risk of provoking some people, do you think we are heading in the direction based on the football that Lampard has tried to implement over the last 13-14 months or so? Do you see a coherent idea coming into place? Pre lockdown yes, apart from the poor run in the winter i was enjoying the season, post lockdown not so much. It's frustrating because i genuinely thought after the Liverpool/Everton games we were hitting the next level. Has he overcomplicated things since lockdown? (he would have had a lot of time to think) Did the impending signings make him feel more pressure and with it could he have become more results based? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, Tomo said: Pre lockdown yes, apart from the poor run in the winter i was enjoying the season, post lockdown not so much. It's frustrating because i genuinely thought after the Liverpool/Everton games we were hitting the next level. Has he overcomplicated things since lockdown? (he would have had a lot of time to think) Did the impending signings make him feel more pressure and with it could he have become more results based? He wanted that 4th place at all costs and got it. He got the team playing in a way that suited our best attackers, mainly Giroud and Pulisic. playing on the counter and pumping crosses to giroud. When all the signings are fit and available, have played together for a few weeks and we still look like shit, the questions have to be asked. but there really is no use jumpng the gun. With the signings arriving this late, it would always be a struggle to seamlessly integrate them. This current, stupid hectic season is another corona write-off, basically preseason for next season were we will be expected to challenge on all fronts. Ryan Fong, killer1257, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Tomo said: Pre lockdown yes, apart from the poor run in the winter i was enjoying the season, post lockdown not so much. It's frustrating because i genuinely thought after the Liverpool/Everton games we were hitting the next level. Has he overcomplicated things since lockdown? (he would have had a lot of time to think) Did the impending signings make him feel more pressure and with it could he have become more results based? I think there was an element of pressure. He basically went full Mourinho and prioritized results over anything else. Circumstances are not favorable right now but for our long term sake, hope to see some semblance of a plan, a coherent idea coming together in the coming weeks, months. We can't be going back to the kind of football we saw under Mourinho. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 The next 4 games in my opinion will tell us how the season will pan out for Lampard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: The next 4 games in my opinion will tell us how the season will pan out for Lampard. yeah,,with one condition. all of our new key player didn't get injured match by match... kellzfresh and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Rudiger - will he go? Where Will Havertz Flourish & Kepa's Final Chelsea Blunder? The Athletic's experts on Chelsea - Simon Johnson, Liam Twomey and Dom Fifield are alongside Matt Davies-Adams to take you behind the scenes at Stamford Bridge and bring you the very best insight on all the latest goings on at Chelsea Football Club https://theathletic.com/podcast/139-straight-outta-cobham/?episode=45 Host Matt Davies-Adams & The Athletic's Chelsea experts, Simon Johnson, Liam Twomey & Dom Fifield, reconvene following a mistake-ridden defeat to Liverpool on Sunday... Surely Kepa has made his last Chelsea blunder, as a deal for Edouard Mendy edges closer, does Lampard yet know how best to utilise Kai Havertz & how has Fikayo Tomori fallen so far down the pecking order? Plus, the guys look ahead to a League Cup game against Barnsley (and another opportunity for silverware this season) & next weekend's trip to West Brom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Jason said: This feels like such a narrow-minded view on how to beat pressing, especially when you have been drumming it so often. Having ball carriers or players who can dribble past players is one way but it is not the only way. You can beat it through 1 touch football (see Hazard's goal vs Liverpool at home in 2018) or play long balls to a target man (definitely not Havertz!) and build the play from there or play balls in behind the defence for players to run into. Obviously, it is not easy to beat teams that press and press well but there are different ways to do so. If we keep on thinking that dribbling past players is the only way to beat the press, then we are truly fucked. No one thinking about only dribbling, the discussion is why did we look more competitive last year when we kinda played the exact same team at sb, the only changes were tammy+willian = havertz, werner. I said one of the reason is we have one moreoption of beating pool press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Look at Robertson here. He should be covered by our winger. He is nowhere near. Also Dunk chance, our tallest player Havertz is covering nobody. This is all on Frank. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Tbf, we were a man down... killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Look at Robertson here. He should be covered by our winger. He is nowhere near. Also Dunk chance, our tallest player Havertz is covering nobody. This is all on Frank. Honestly..these are the things that concern me,..more than our overall approach in games. I was hoping to see more improvement from last season, with regards to this. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Tbf, we were a man down... Man down or not we should be more aware, drill these to the players, tuck it in, pack it in but with intelligence, maybe it will come later or so I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Man down or not we should be more aware, drill these to the players, tuck it in, pack it in but with intelligence, maybe it will come later or so I hope. But we were a man down.... Obviously we aren't going to have every Liverpool player marked killer1257 and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: But we were a man down.... Obviously we aren't going to have every Liverpool player marked But you can make life very difficult for them no? How many times have the old JM or Simone or Conte pulled it off? It needs to be drilled and coached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prehuman 119 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Is it Rudiger's fault that the team conceded 79 goals in all competitions last season? the worst ratio in a season since the 1990/91 campaign Is it Kepa's fault that the team suffered eight home losses in all competitions for the first time since 1985/86? Who was primarily responsible because the team has the same number of goals conceded as the 15th in the Premier League? Whose fault is it that the team did not know how to organize and position itself on the field? Whose responsibility is it that the team did not know how to make a defensive transition? Whose fault is it that until the last game of the season, each opponent's corner kick was half a goal? Was it the one who took advantage of each individual error, many generated by the collective chaos, to cleanse the hands of his responsibility as a leader and burn his subordinates publicly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted September 23, 2020 Is it Rudiger's fault that the team conceded 79 goals in all competitions last season? the worst ratio in a season since the 1990/91 campaign Is it Kepa's fault that the team suffered eight home losses in all competitions for the first time since 1985/86? Who was primarily responsible because the team has the same number of goals conceded as the 15th in the Premier League? Whose fault is it that the team did not know how to organize and position itself on the field? Whose responsibility is it that the team did not know how to make a defensive transition? Whose fault is it that until the last game of the season, each opponent's corner kick was half a goal? Was it the one who took advantage of each individual error, many generated by the collective chaos, to cleanse the hands of his responsibility as a leader and burn his subordinates publicly?Whose credit to bring our average team that was written off by every fucking one to the 4th, so we can have CL this season, so we can have the pulling power again to sign good players?What a drama queen, nobody is saying the man is perfect, and he has never thrown his players under the bus. Be patient and calm the bloody down. killer1257, Puliiszola, nofacej and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Hutcho 8,443 Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted September 23, 2020 We were expected to finish 6th or worse came 4th got to a final (lost unfortunately). Have now brought in a lot of players we are all super pumped about (in part thanks to frank), and are working to get better. We are 2 games into the new season. Everyone needs t be patient and chill the fuck out. Jesus christ. DDA, Ryan Fong, killer1257 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 8:19 PM, NikkiCFC said: Look at Robertson here. He should be covered by our winger. He is nowhere near. Also Dunk chance, our tallest player Havertz is covering nobody. This is all on Frank. I clearly remembered, i have posted how wrong this analysis is. Did something wrong with this site that some post went missing? Some kind of db rollback. Puliiszola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Lampard on Cech training with the keepers... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/25/petr-cech-lends-helping-hand-kepa-arrizabalaga-following-costly/ Petr Cech has taken a hands on approach to Chelsea’s goalkeeping problem by returning to the training pitch in a bid to help head coach Frank Lampard find his undisputed No 1. Technical and performance advisor Cech, along with his old coach Christope Lollichon, identified Edouard Mendy who this week joined Chelsea from Rennes for £22 million. Mendy did not move in time to be considered for Saturday’s trip to West Bromwich Albion and, in the meantime, Cech has put his gloves back on to try to help Chelsea's new signing, Kepa Arrizabalaga and Willy Caballero. “Petr has his job, which, as we know is technical advisor, but he’s also at times helping with the goalkeepers,” said Lampard. “Why would you not tap into having the best goalkeeper in the world, which he was for a long time, to pass on that knowledge? “Having Petr train with the goalkeepers and bring his experience is a great thing. He still has great quality. I think he retired pretty young. He’s training and keeping fit, which I think is healthy for him and the goalkeepers in the squad. I’ve got absolutely no problem with it. It’s something that’s really positive for the goalkeepers and Petr enjoys doing it. Why not get back and give that experience to the goalkeepers? “Petr came to me and talked about it, and he is now training very regularly with the group. That can change at any time. it’s not something I have a problem with in any way and that communication is always really good. It’s something I like. “We are a tight knit family here at Chelsea. It’s important that we’ve promoted that a lot. That was one of the things when I came back to the club. It’s not like I’m going to put my boots on and take part every day, we’re not doing it like that, but what we’re trying to do is make sure that the group is together.” Vesper, killer1257 and Unionjack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, Jason said: Lampard on Cech training with the keepers... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/25/petr-cech-lends-helping-hand-kepa-arrizabalaga-following-costly/ Mendy did not move in time to be considered for Saturday’s trip to West Bromwich Albion and, in the meantime, Cech has put his gloves back on to try to help Chelsea'....... ................beat West Brom as he returns to the field, between the posts he is YOUNGER than Willy killer1257 and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Jason said: Lampard on Cech training with the keepers... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/25/petr-cech-lends-helping-hand-kepa-arrizabalaga-following-costly/ Ive said he should multi task since he came back. Great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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