Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

4 hours ago, chelseafan26 said:

Marseille were a joy to watch last season under biesla. One of the main reasons for that was Imbula. Has always impressed me atleast. But the fact that matic put in worldies after worldies and seemed undroppable would have made Imbula a luxury buy for jose.

Matic had already been suffering 'poor form' for a year before Imbula joined Stoke.

[Muzchap 8,966]

13 hours ago, Robguima said:

Seems like a good player, but I'd take his performance against us with a grain of salt. Our midfield struggles often against anyone.

this will go in the preferences of the manager and how he wants to setup his team. Will he employ an enforcer, or multiple rounded players? For example

I think we have seen this season that multiple 'rounded' players is not a good strategy ???

[Fernando 6,585]

14 hours ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

If they were to buy him, they would do this by now. He is on Chelsea radar since 2012. There were quotes from Chelsea chief scout Guy Hilton who said that they like him a lot. At least two times they made an offer for him, once when he played for Guingamp and then in Marseille. Why they didn't pull this one out is a guess but I think even today you could see that he really is incosistent even in the same game. Great, great potential though and Chelsea know that. If he is able to stabilize himself (after all there is a reason why he was sold from Porto after 6 months with only 2m€ profit) and be consistent, he will be a gem.

 

See this is the type of buy I can confidently say that Emanolo would have done. 

Since Mourinho came a lot of those buys stop. 

One good thing about Mourinho gone is Emanolo can go back to doing his great business of buying young potential. 

[Special Juan 28,141]

We need a top quality LB as much as we need CM etc.....

We need to change the dynamics of this team and purchase a LB and start stretching teams from the first whistle. A CB, a CM and top class number 10 are all priority but up there with those should a LB who is dynamic, has the ability to get up and down and not only that but fizz in dangerous balls from the wing and overlap without a second thought. 

You see the likes of Spurs with young and fresh players bombing up and down, and while they aren't amazing the likes of Rose and co they have bags and bags of energy to attack and defend all in one. 

[11Drogba 2,000]

3 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

a LB who is dynamic, has the ability to get up and down and not only that but fizz in dangerous balls from the wing and overlap without a second thought. 

That's Ake.

[Special Juan 28,141]

17 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

That's Ake.

That's also who ever takes over decides to put faith in him.

[Stats 7,142]

28 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

That's Ake.

 

9 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

That's also who ever takes over decides to put faith in him.

Having a very good season but there is no way, regardless of who is in charge, that he will be our starting LB next season.

[chelseafan26 293]

1 hour ago, Stats said:

 

Having a very good season but there is no way, regardless of who is in charge, that he will be our starting LB next season.

That is exactly where in lies our problem. Since Roman has come in, we as a club have become so result oriented that its impossible to give a chance to any youth player. 

In any other club in the world, ake would be our starting LB for next season after showing how good he has been for watford.

[robsblubot 3,595]

9 hours ago, Muzchap said:

I think we have seen this season that multiple 'rounded' players is not a good strategy ???

How so? W don't have a single rounded midfielder in the squad.

the closest one is Matic, but also more of a DM. Fabregas is extremely attacking minded which calls for a more defensive minded parter, but thats the type of stuff the new manager will have to figure out.

it he does want to have 2-3 rounded midfielders, he will need to buy and replace players - no choice.

[Muzchap 8,966]

2 hours ago, Robguima said:

How so? W don't have a single rounded midfielder in the squad.

the closest one is Matic, but also more of a DM. Fabregas is extremely attacking minded which calls for a more defensive minded parter, but thats the type of stuff the new manager will have to figure out.

it he does want to have 2-3 rounded midfielders, he will need to buy and replace players - no choice.

Oops sorry dude - I thought you would have picked up on:

well rounded = fat ???

we already tried the well rounded approach and the players were shite ???

i do agree with your original point ! 

[robsblubot 3,595]

2 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Oops sorry dude - I thought you would have picked up on:

well rounded = fat ???

we already tried the well rounded approach and the players were shite ???

i do agree with your original point ! 

 that took me a while... It as a good one - my bad for missing it.

[11Drogba 2,000]

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/chelsea-arsenal-tottenham-scouts-at-rennes-vs-nantes/

Scouts must be impressed as he scored a hat trick last night.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

1 hour ago, 11Drogba said:

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/chelsea-arsenal-tottenham-scouts-at-rennes-vs-nantes/

Scouts must be impressed as he scored a hat trick last night.

Dembele is an absolute cert on my wish list for the summer. Great talent. We probably will not succeed but we absolutely have to bid for this lad.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

On 06/03/2016 at 7:00 PM, chelseafan26 said:

That is exactly where in lies our problem. Since Roman has come in, we as a club have become so result oriented that its impossible to give a chance to any youth player. 

In any other club in the world, ake would be our starting LB for next season after showing how good he has been for watford.

So you are saying that Nathan is the best LB in the world? Even Nathan would probably think that's going a bit too far.

[chelseafan26 293]

On 07/03/2016 at 3:11 AM, OhForAGreavsie said:

So you are saying that Nathan is the best LB in the world? Even Nathan would probably think that's going a bit too far.

After reading your comment, i read my statement again and i can see how it can be misinterpreted.

what i simply meant was, if ake belonged to any other club in the world, then he would have got a look into the squad. Specially if their LB situation was as bad as ours.

[chelseafan26 293]

WOW!!! feeling like shit. depressed, gutted. Thanks for that chelsea.

Thought a good night's sleep would make a difference but honestly its even worse.

The first thought was "we are a train wreck". If you thought things could not go any worse, think again. We STILL dont have an identity. We STILL dont have a plan. We STILL dont have a coach. Our sugar daddy has restricted our pocket money, and now we have lost the allure of Champions League. TRAIN WRECK!!!

For me, there are 2 ways to go from here, first is the one we have been going through for the last 13 years with ROMAN. With no stability, with no identity, no youth. We were lucky to have a group of individuals like DD, Lamps, JT, cech, Ash, essien. We really were. And now i realize exactly how lucky. We can continue to fire managers after every 2nd loss. We can continue to buy square pugs for round holes. But, I think we all know how that ends. Personally, I dont want any of it. Please. No more hire and fire. No more succumbing to players. Atleast the previous bunch had some character. This bunch is nothing but a pool of overpaid pussies. 

The 2nd way is for Roman to get his head out of his ass, and understand that he needs to be patient. Actually give the manager the time he wants and crave. Accept that shit will happen and just swallow his pride and ego for a season of 2. Bayern went 2 years without a trophy and that was in a league like bundesliga where there are just 2 teams vying for the league. We need to take a leaf out of there book. They had the likes of muller, kroos, alaba coming through, we have a pool of players that can be as good. Kenedy,boga, traore, RLC, solanke, baba, christensen, ake. Trust the youth. That does not mean that we can should play the under-21, but we need to throw away deadwood like oscar and mikel away while chucking away the likes of hazard who clearly are not interested in playing for the shirt.

For me this should be our squad for next season

Thibaut (Begovic (HG))

Azpi (IVA) Zouma (Cahill (HG)) Christensen(HG) (JT(HG)) Ake (HG)(Baba)

Radja (RLC(HG)) Kante (Matic) Cesc(HG) (Musonda(HG))

Pedro (Boga(HG)) Costa (Traore(HG)) Willian (Kenedy(HG))

3rd striker  - solanke.

 

 

[bellion 170]

This summer's transfer business is a crossroads for the club.  How much and whom they buy and sell will decide the club's progress for the next few years - the club can challenge for the title and future European competition or end up as a bottom half club and compete against the likes of West Brom and Crystal Palace.

Conte will have his preferences on whom to buy, keep and sell. 

The key factor is how much the Board will be willing to fund his wish list and alternatives if those targets are unobtainable.

To me, a net spend WELL in excess of 100 million pounds is needed to significantly strengthen the squad which means at least 3 top quality signings plus a few other squad fillers.  Anything less and we will say hello to Palace and WBA alongside us in the table.  Conte and other managers will be gone and eventually a no-mark Championship level manager will be hired.  A half-filled new stadium will subsequently greet us in 2020 or whenever it is ready.

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

3 hours ago, chelseafan26 said:

After reading your comment, i read my statement again and i can see how it can be misinterpreted.

what i simply meant was, if ake belonged to any other club in the world, then he would have got a look into the squad. Specially if their LB situation was as bad as ours.

Ah, I've also read it again and I see that now.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Massive upgrades needed on Mikel, Cahill, Oscar, Pedro, Matic and Rahman.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

4 hours ago, bellion said:

This summer's transfer business is a crossroads for the club.  How much and whom they buy and sell will decide the club's progress for the next few years - the club can challenge for the title and future European competition or end up as a bottom half club and compete against the likes of West Brom and Crystal Palace.

Conte will have his preferences on whom to buy, keep and sell. 

The key factor is how much the Board will be willing to fund his wish list and alternatives if those targets are unobtainable.

To me, a net spend WELL in excess of 100 million pounds is needed to significantly strengthen the squad which means at least 3 top quality signings plus a few other squad fillers.  Anything less and we will say hello to Palace and WBA alongside us in the table.  Conte and other managers will be gone and eventually a no-mark Championship level manager will be hired.  A half-filled new stadium will subsequently greet us in 2020 or whenever it is ready.

 

I don't believe that the cash will be a problem to find, I think our difficulties lie elsewhere and I doubt they can be solved in one, or even two, transfer windows.

I see throughout the web that many still expect Roman to be funding the new stadium outright but the clear impression from the first presentation of the rebuild plans is that Roman will input a loan. Yes, this means we will have repayments to make but remember Mr. A. won't be putting £600m on the table in one go. His spending will be staged so he'll be paying the bills as and when they come up and, more importantly, he will, if he wishes, be able to manipulate the repayment schedule to suit the needs of the club. If a scheduled annual repayment is going to hamper the club's spending plans he can be flexible about it. I think, and hope, Roman will get his money back in the end but, if it takes 30 years instead of 25 he probably isn't going to see it as a drama.

Our real problem will be the one we've struggled with for years. It's not finding the money, it's how to spend it. We seem not to have been able to tell the difference between a decent player and a good one, a player with qualities, and one of quality. Diego scored a great goal last night be he isn't in Ibra's league. When our centre forward has the ball at his feat on the dribble, he looks like he has no clue how to do what he wants to achieve. We have to up our game in player recruitment. If we don't then it matters not whether we spend £100m or £100.

The state of our club means we have no chance of attracting the player who is at the top of my own transfer wish list, Ousmane Dembele, or most of the one's at the top of anyone else's. Even if by some miracle we identify the right targets it's hard to imagine that we can bring in the depth of quality we need in one summer.