Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[1chelsea 864]

I read most paper saying arsenal are the one going for him which striker did u read we are going for this guy??

[Phil Driver 503]

There's always been a vast difference in the build and athleticism between someone like Lampard and Zanetti. furthermore, Zanetti is an all-around footballer that Lampard has never quite been (defensively or from the back).

Well I think we can let Jose decide on that. The new contract will be signed soon . I never remember Zanetti finishing second in world footballer of the yearbut do remember him being beaten by England at the 2004 world cup ,when presumably his super human qualities never surfaced despite only being 28.

[Phil Driver 503]

Jose Mourinho believes if Chelsea had won the Champions League before 2012 then Frank Lampard would have won the Ballon d'Or.

Lampard finished as runner-up to Barcelona's Ronaldinho in 2005, the year which Chelsea were controversially eliminated from the Champions League by Liverpool at the semi-final stage.

Chelsea went on to reach another two semi-finals, losing to Liverpool and Barcelona in 2007 and 2009, and also lost on penalties to Manchester United in the 2008 final.

In a serialisation of Mike Carson's book, The Manager, in the Telegraph, Mourinho reveals his belief that Lampard should have been crowned as Europe's best player.

"That season [2004-05] was a season for them to say, 'We are the best in this country', and it was the season for me to say: 'I'm not just very good in Portugal, I'm also very good here.' So it was like an explosion of motivation on both sides," Mourinho said.

"I remember saying clearly to Frank Lampard: 'You are one of the best players in the world, but nobody knows.'

"In one of the seasons Frank was a finalist in what is now the Ballon d'Or, and I think he didn't win because he was not a European champion.

"Between 2004 and 2007 he became, for sure, one of the best players in the world. So we motivate people also with individual challenges, and for him, for sure, that was a challenge we put there and he understood and he was ready for it.

"If Frank's 2012 Champions League win had come before, he would have been voted the best."

Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/229839.html#syOjGyLQe4dCSI8I.99

[Reddish-Blue 2,515]

Jose Mourinho believes if Chelsea had won the Champions League before 2012 then Frank Lampard would have won the Ballon d'Or.

Lampard finished as runner-up to Barcelona's Ronaldinho in 2005, the year which Chelsea were controversially eliminated from the Champions League by Liverpool at the semi-final stage.

Chelsea went on to reach another two semi-finals, losing to Liverpool and Barcelona in 2007 and 2009, and also lost on penalties to Manchester United in the 2008 final.

In a serialisation of Mike Carson's book, The Manager, in the Telegraph, Mourinho reveals his belief that Lampard should have been crowned as Europe's best player.

"That season [2004-05] was a season for them to say, 'We are the best in this country', and it was the season for me to say: 'I'm not just very good in Portugal, I'm also very good here.' So it was like an explosion of motivation on both sides," Mourinho said.

"I remember saying clearly to Frank Lampard: 'You are one of the best players in the world, but nobody knows.'

"In one of the seasons Frank was a finalist in what is now the Ballon d'Or, and I think he didn't win because he was not a European champion.

"Between 2004 and 2007 he became, for sure, one of the best players in the world. So we motivate people also with individual challenges, and for him, for sure, that was a challenge we put there and he understood and he was ready for it.

"If Frank's 2012 Champions League win had come before, he would have been voted the best."

Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/229839.html#syOjGyLQe4dCSI8I.99

What does this have to do with the January transfer window?

Post your Lampard stuff in the right thread

[Phil Driver 503]

Red through the thread and you will see how the discussion developed.

remember this discussion next summer when Chelsea fail to make top four, there are only a limited number of top all-around center midfielders already, and none of them want to transfer into a non-Champions League club.

Chelsea don't need the very best center midfielders right now; Chelsea need some quickness of thought and body along with the strength to drive past defenders in center midfield. as I said before, even though a player like M. Diame isn't rated highly by many, he is more than capable of improving Chelsea's center midfield (as Mikel is not good enough and Lampard can't take on any defender) if Matic doesn't come along with Guarin (or, whoever might be on the way).

You got that bit right and the Mikel bit.

[quickpassnmove 924]

Jose Mourinho believes if Chelsea had won the Champions League before 2012 then Frank Lampard would have won the Ballon d'Or.

Lampard finished as runner-up to Barcelona's Ronaldinho in 2005, the year which Chelsea were controversially eliminated from the Champions League by Liverpool at the semi-final stage.

Chelsea went on to reach another two semi-finals, losing to Liverpool and Barcelona in 2007 and 2009, and also lost on penalties to Manchester United in the 2008 final.

In a serialisation of Mike Carson's book, The Manager, in the Telegraph, Mourinho reveals his belief that Lampard should have been crowned as Europe's best player.

"That season [2004-05] was a season for them to say, 'We are the best in this country', and it was the season for me to say: 'I'm not just very good in Portugal, I'm also very good here.' So it was like an explosion of motivation on both sides," Mourinho said.

"I remember saying clearly to Frank Lampard: 'You are one of the best players in the world, but nobody knows.'

"In one of the seasons Frank was a finalist in what is now the Ballon d'Or, and I think he didn't win because he was not a European champion.

"Between 2004 and 2007 he became, for sure, one of the best players in the world. So we motivate people also with individual challenges, and for him, for sure, that was a challenge we put there and he understood and he was ready for it.

"If Frank's 2012 Champions League win had come before, he would have been voted the best."

Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/229839.html#syOjGyLQe4dCSI8I.99

2005 was easily the best I've seen Chelsea and Mr. Lampard. Lampard deserved praise at that time.

[Blue Warrior 109]

We do need to raise funds, they days of excessive spending are over. The Champions league and Europa league victory payed for the new team. Rumours still link us to Diego Costa.

[yuvala 2,167]

I really wish we buy a striker to build a system on.

Why not have a target man, someone to cross to, a focal point for the team ?

We have no point in playing wide anyway if there's no one to cross to and we can't play only centrally because its easy to defend against us that way.

[Christo191 173]

I really wish we buy a striker to build a system on.

Why not have a target man, someone to cross to, a focal point for the team ?

We have no point in playing wide anyway if there's no one to cross to and we can't play only centrally because its easy to defend against us that way.

If we get to the point, when we play with long balls and crosses, I will be ashamed to call my self a chelsea fan!

[yuvala 2,167]

If we get to the point, when we play with long balls and crosses, I will be ashamed to call my self a chelsea fan!

doesn't have to be long balls and crosses all the time, look at Suarez for example ..

I mean a target man as in a focal point for the attack, doesn't have to be Drogba style.

[lucio 5,418]

If we get to the point, when we play with long balls and crosses, I will be ashamed to call my self a chelsea fan!

there is a huge difference between quality long passes and crosses compared to hoofing the ball up the pitch and hoping for the best.

it would certainly be better than our current slow , narrow , nonthreatening passing. but we dont have the players for it atm.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Benfica fans haven't got many nice words for Witsel..

Why is that?

[Weckerz 3,781]

Why is that?

Because he left after one season? The fact they made 31.000.000 euro of him in 1 year doesn't matter ^^

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Why is that?

Basically they said that selling him for 40m was the best piece of business they have ever made because he's nowhere near worth that, said he's overrated and that he won't reach a high level. I read that Matic is miles better too and some even prefer Enzo Pérez.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Basically they said that selling him for 40m was the best piece of business they have ever made because he's nowhere near worth that, said he's overrated and that he won't reach a high level. I read that Matic is miles better too and some even prefer Enzo Pérez.

Yeah I do remember a Benfica fan on this forum saying something along the lines of Matic has been miles better then Witsel for them.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

What is the chance of Matic coming? Is the reported price of 40m true or not?

I doubt we would be linked with him if he was realy that expensive, no way we will pay 40m for him in january.

But he would fit better than Guarin. He is amazing in benfica, question is how good will he be here?

[didierforever 7,349]

If we get to the point, when we play with long balls and crosses, I will be ashamed to call my self a chelsea fan!

hahahahahahaha... OH MY GOD!!!!

[Christo191 173]

hahahahahahaha... OH MY GOD!!!!

hahahahahahhha which one is yours!

[didierforever 7,349]

hahahahahahhha which one is yours!

u do know that chelsea was predominantly a "long ball" team. "a defesive team". a team that won its only CL using those very tactics. and the fact that just by playing one way or another makes u "ASHAMED" of calling urself a chelsea fan goes onto to show a lot of things.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

What is the chance of Matic coming? Is the reported price of 40m true or not?

I doubt we would be linked with him if he was realy that expensive, no way we will pay 40m for him in january.

But he would fit better than Guarin. He is amazing in benfica, question is how good will he be here?

Benfica didnt qualify into the last 16 in the champs league. There are rumors that they are in some financial crisis, so i think we have a realistic chance to get him cheaper than we thought.