Mário César 1,525 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 one more week withou any signings ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,380 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Tomo said: What about Villa, Everton and Leeds? If you're counting Arsenal surely they have to be in too 4 consideration too? Nah. None of those clubs have the depth or potential over an entire season to properly threaten the big boys. As with a bunch of our key players last season who were subpar, you can imagine Arse being significantly better this coming season if the likes of Auba, Partey etc are back to their usual selves. And Ben White instantly becomes by far their best CB. I feel that if we make 2-3 key signings the likes of Arse/Spuds/Leicester will be no real threat to us. But if we don’t sign a striker they will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pizy said: Nah. None of those clubs have the depth or potential over an entire season to properly threaten the big boys. As with a bunch of our key players last season who were subpar, you can imagine Arse being significantly better this coming season if the likes of Auba, Partey etc are back to their usual selves. And Ben White instantly becomes by far their best CB. I feel that if we make 2-3 key signings the likes of Arse/Spuds/Leicester will be no real threat to us. But if we don’t sign a striker they will be. If we make a meal of top four then that would make Tuchel worse than Lampard domestically. I think you're falling into the trap people did with Liverpool under Dalglish and looking at the name of the club rather than the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,120 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Jas said: Why pay his family....I dont get all these weird ass bonuses, give me the good old days any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,380 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Tomo said: If we make a meal of top four then that would make Tuchel worse than Lampard domestically. I think you're falling into the trap people did with Liverpool under Dalglish and looking at the name of the club rather than the squad. I don’t see it that way at all. It would just mean that others improved while we stood still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pizy said: I don’t see it that way at all. It would just mean that others improved while we stood still. For all his greenness Lampard achieved top four with Kepa, Zouma, Alonso/Emerson, Willian and Tammy/Giroud. Tuchel has clear upgrades on all those players not to mention better versions of Kante and Mount. It will be an absolute failure on his behalf if we're scrambling for top four again, the only mitigating circumstances would be if we had a major injury crisis or the standard was so high 4th place took a points total in the late 70s. Ole managed to secure United a comfortable top four finish despite "standing still" in the market, with the quality in our squad that has to be bare minimum for Tuchel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Pizy said: I don’t see it that way at all. It would just mean that others improved while we stood still. I really don't understand this idea that a team can only improve by buying players. Is buying really the only solution to improvement? We may have 1-2 spots to plug but this team is still young and has room for improvement. They aren't the finished article or at over the hill point yet where we definitely have to buy to rejuvenate the squad etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,380 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tomo said: For all his greenness Lampard achieved top four with Kepa, Zouma, Alonso/Emerson, Willian and Tammy/Giroud. Tuchel has clear upgrades on all those players not to mention better versions of Kante and Mount. It will be an absolute failure on his behalf if we're scrambling for top four again, the only mitigating circumstances would be if we had a major injury crisis or the standard was so high 4th place took a points total in the late 70s. Ole managed to secure United a comfortable top four finish despite "standing still" in the market, with the quality in our squad that has to be bare minimum for Tuchel. Perhaps we wouldn’t be scrambling on literally the last day for top 4 like the last two seasons, but I absolutely do think we’d be in for a real battle with Leicester, Spuds, and Arse for that 4th spot. Sorry, but expecting TT to finish above City, Liverpool, and United who all have reliable goal scorers whilst we have Tammy Abraham as our only officially recognized striker is madness. Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Pizy said: Perhaps we wouldn’t be scrambling on literally the last day for top 4 like the last two seasons, but I absolutely do think we’d be in for a real battle with Leicester, Spuds, and Arse for that 4th spot. Sorry, but expecting TT to finish above City, Liverpool, and United who all have reliable goal scorers whilst we have Tammy Abraham as our only officially recognized striker is madness. And one of the reasons United have now got "reliable scorers" is because Rashford and Martial naturally grew from 10 ish goal a season players to 20 ish goal a season ones. Why is that possiblity beyond any of ours? Edited July 30, 2021 by Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,380 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Tomo said: And one of the reasons United have now got "reliable scorers" is because Rashford and Martial naturally grew from 10 ish goal a season players to 20 ish goal a season ones. Why is that possiblity beyond any of ours? It’s not out of the realm of possibility of course. But for me it’s extremely risky. Why go into a season merely hoping all these players improve when we can add to the squad in key areas and basically ensure that we don’t have to depend on that hope? We sign Haaland and we don’t have to worry about Werner missing sitters or Ziyech forgetting how to play football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pizy said: It’s not out of the realm of possibility of course. But for me it’s extremely risky. Why go into a season merely hoping all these players improve when we can add to the squad in key areas and basically ensure that we don’t have to depend on that hope? We sign Haaland and we don’t have to worry about Werner missing sitters or Ziyech forgetting how to play football. Quick question, since you're implying that buying is the solution to all our problems, what if those solutions struggle next season? Then what? Go out and buy more next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Apparently Arteta has convinced Xhaka to not only stay at Arsenal but sign a new deal. This guy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Arsenal have asked about Lautaro Martinez situation at Inter. His exit this summer isn't ruled out if a very good offer arrives. If Martinez leave, Inter wants Joaquin Correa as his replacement. Edited July 31, 2021 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Zenit are ready to offer €30m for Belotti. The player has a €4m/year contract offer on the table from Torino. Now, it is up to Belotti to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Juventus wanted to see if Sassuolo will change their stance for Locatelli. Sassuolo aren't keen to a 2/yr loan and the option to buy, which becomes an obligation only if goals are reached. Both clubs remain firm on their stances after the meeting, the only real change was the sell on clause from 25% to 15%. Both clubs will meet again in the next days to see if a deal can be struck. Edited July 31, 2021 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Ancelotti and Real Madrid want Odegaard to remain, but Odegaard doesn't think he can compete with Modric, Kroos, Casemiro, and Valverde. Real Madrid won't stand in his way if he decides to leave. Edited July 31, 2021 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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