Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

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On 4/21/2019 at 0:57 PM, OhForAGreavsie said:

When Aguero leaves I reckon City will go to the market for his replacement.

When Jesus joined City, and was sometimes preferred to Aguero in the XI, there was a lot of talk about the posibility of his becoming their first choice immediately. My reaction to that was, 'yes please', because having watched Jesus on YouTube, I had formed, and posted, the opinion that he was not as good as his reputation suggested, and nowhere near as good as the Argentine. Maybe because that assessment is right, or, if it's not, maybe for some other reason, but Guardiola does not seem to like Jesus as much as most other members of his squad. I haven't seen much evidence to sugget that Jesus is getting promoted when Aguero leaves. If it's true that Jesus wants to quit the club, perhaps it's because he's getting that vibe too.

Jesus was actually the preferred striker in the beginning but Aguero has done well improving his build up game. He is no longer just a striker who run the channel plus if you watch this city team, they need a goal getter as striker. Aguero pretty much guarantee 20 goals a season. 

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2 hours ago, communicate said:

Jesus was actually the preferred striker in the beginning but Aguero has done well improving his build up game. He is no longer just a striker who run the channel plus if you watch this city team, they need a goal getter as striker. Aguero pretty much guarantee 20 goals a season. 

In my opinion the change wasn't in Aquero's game, but in Guardiola's thinking about the relative merits of his two leading strikers.

The rest of my opinion on this comes in two parts. First, Aguero is simply the better striker and always has been. Second, regardless of whether or not he ever becomes City's first choice striker, Jesus at his best, will never be as good as Aguero has been at his best. It is, as I see it, a complete non-contest. To regard Jesus in the same bracket as Aguero is, I think, to overestimate the Brazilian

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On 4/23/2019 at 0:40 AM, Vesper said:

AC is now added to my clear-out list permanently

ALL THESE MUST GO GO GO (some need to stay till after bans then sell!)

3    Spain    DF    Marcos Alonso OFF MY TEAM YOU CUNNY BELLEND, Jay Dasilva can spell Emerson
5    Italy    MF    Jorginho
6    England    MF    Danny Drinkwater
8    England    MF    Ross Barkley
9    Argentina    FW    Gonzalo Higuaín 
11    Spain    FW    Pedro
17    Croatia    MF    Mateo Kovačić (goes back anyway)

18    France    FW    Olivier Giroud
21    Italy    DF    Davide Zappacosta
22    Brazil    FW    Willian
24    England    DF    Gary Cahill (captain)
27    Denmark    DF    Andreas Christensen

28    Spain    DF    César Azpilicueta (vice-captain)
30    Brazil    DF    David Luiz NO FUCKING WAY DO WE GIVE HIM A MULTIYEAR!! 
31    England    GK    Robert Green
—    Netherlands    MF    Marco van Ginkel

Loan Army needs to be liquidated to comply with upcoming new rules (8 max is probably where it ends up)

 

so bye bye to

Nigeria   DF   Ola Aina (to Torino until 30 June 2019) <<<< he is gone, as Torino are buying him, which was yet another board cockup

Spain   FW   Álvaro Morata (to Atlético Madrid until 30 June 2020)

France MF   Tiémoué Bakayoko (to Milan until 30 June 2019)

Belgium  FW  Michy Batshuayi (to Crystal Palace until 30 June 2019)

Ghana   DF   Baba Rahman (to Reims until 30 June 2019)

Nigeria   MF   Victor Moses (to Fenerbahçe until 30 June 2020)

Brazil   MF   Kenedy (to Newcastle United until 30 June 2019)

Belgium   MF   Charly Musonda (to Vitesse until 30 June 2019)

Czech Republic    DF    Tomáš Kalas (to Bristol City until 30 June 2019)
United States    DF    Matt Miazga (to Reading until 30 June 2019)
Nigeria    DF    Kenneth Omeruo (to Leganés until 30 June 2019)

Serbia    MF    Danilo Pantić (to Partizan until 30 June 2019)
Croatia    MF    Mario Pašalić (to Atalanta until 30 June 2019)
Brazil    MF    Lucas Piazon (to Chievo until 30 June 2019)

and the true scrubs who also need to be liquidated

 England    GK    Nathan Baxter (to Yeovil Town until 30 June 2019)
England    GK    Bradley Collins (to Burton Albion until 30 June 2019)
Portugal    GK    Eduardo (to Vitesse until 30 June 2019)
Northern Ireland    GK    Jared Thompson (to Warrenpoint Town until 30 June 2019)
United States    GK    Ethan Wady (to Tooting & Mitcham United until 30 June 2019)
Croatia    GK    Karlo Žiger (to Sutton United until 30 June 2019)
England    DF    Josh Grant (to Yeovil Town until 30 June 2019)
Jamaica    DF    Michael Hector (to Sheffield Wednesday until 30 June 2019)
England DF Todd Kane (to Hull City until 30 June 2019)
England    DF    Jack Wakely (to Basingstoke Town until 30 June 2019)Ivory Coast    MF    Victorien Angban (to Metz until 30 June 2019)
England    MF    Jacob Maddox (to Cheltenham Town until 30 June 2019)
Brazil    MF    Nathan (to Atlético Mineiro until 30 June 2019)
England DF Fankaty Dabo (to Sparta Rotterdam until 30 June 2019)
Ecuador    MF    Josimar Quintero (to Lleida Esportiu until 30 June 2019)


 

 

promote to first team

United States    MF    Christian Pulisic (to Borussia Dortmund until 30 June 2019)

England    FW    Tammy Abraham (to Aston Villa until 30 June 2019)

England    DF     Fikayo Tomori (to Derby County until 30 June 2019)

England    DF     Reece James (to Wigan Athletic until 30 June 2019)

England    MF     Mason Mount (to Derby County until 30 June 2019)

England    DF    Jay Dasilva (to Bristol City until 30 June 2019)

 

reduced loan army of 8

 

England    DF    Trevoh Chalobah

Scotland    MF    Billy Gilmour

Netherlands    FW    Daishawn Redan
England    DF    Dujon Sterling

Belgium   MF   Kylian Hazard

England   MF   Kasey Palmer 

England   MF   Lewis Baker

England  FW  Izzy Brown

 

one year promotion due to bans then maybe sell

France   DF   Kurt Zouma (to Everton until 30 June 2019)

 

all this yields a 2019-20 25 man roster of

 

GK Kepa

GK Wille

GK Bulka

CB Rudiger

CB Zouma (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS UNLESS HE PLAYS WELL)

CB AC (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS)

CB Fikayo Tomori

CB Jake Clarke-Salter 

LB Emerson

LB Jay Dasilva

RB Reece James  can play CB too

RB Azpi (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS) can play CB too

DH DMF Jorginho (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS)

DH DMF   Ampadu 

CMF Kante

CMF Mason Mount

AMF RLC

AMF Barkley (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS)

LW Willian (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS)

LW CHO

RW Pulisic

RW Pedro (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS)

CF Higs (have to renew him, Bats and Morata need to be sold, they will never be perma starters here) (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS)

CF Giroud  (SELL HIM AFTER THE BANS)

CF Tammy

 

FFS GET RID OF ALONSO AND LUIZ NOW!!!!!!!

 

SACK SARRI

bottom line, we are so fucked next year

6th or worse for sure

Another interesting read Versper, thank you. Three things; -

Karlo is back with the club after his emergency loan at Sutton. He's going to start the final of the uefa Youth League in an hour or so. I think he'll probably be kept around at the club next year because Chelsea really rate Jamie Cumming and are probably looking for a 2019/2020 loan for him. This add's up to Karlo becoming the senior development level keeper in the squad. Another reason for the guess that Karlo will be at Cobham next season is...

Reading between the lines, Marcin is a goner. Unless I've seen bad information, his contract expires in June and, not only is there no news of a renewal, there has been no sign of him on a football pitch for a long time. He isn't playing, he's not been notified as injured and the club are saying nothing about him at all. That's often a sign that they're covering up a dispute between club and player. If Marcin is in his last few weeks as a Chelsea player that's a shame because I rate him.

I'll have a friendly bet with you that we'll finish above 7th. Yes? 

[!Hazard! 3,394]

On 4/19/2019 at 10:39 PM, BlueLyon said:

Leroy Sane is reportedly unhappy at city. And with Sterling heavily favoured over him, he might decide to put in a transfer request.

If we could pull off a reverse De Bruyne and develop him into a star (in case Eden leaves).

There must be a reason why Sane Pep doesn't pick him that often, why Low decided not to include him in World Cup squad last summer

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1 minute ago, !Hazard! said:

There must be a reason why Sane Pep doesn't pick him that often, why Low decided not to include him in World Cup squad last summer

Agreed. It's usually risky to ignore the evidence of a player's selection record. Not always, but usually for sure.

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56 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

In my opinion the change wasn't in Aquero's game, but in Guardiola's thinking about the relative merits of his two leading strikers.

The rest of my opinion on this comes in two parts. First, Aguero is simply the better striker and always has been. Second, regardless of whether or not he ever becomes City's first choice striker, Jesus at his best, will never be as good as Aguero has been at his best. It is, as I see it, a complete non-contest. To regard Jesus in the same bracket as Aguero is, I think, to overestimate the Brazilian

If you watched aguero, he actually change his game quite a bit to suit guardiola style. But he is just happen to have very good technical skill so it is not difficult to change. 

Jesus fit perfectly to what pep want, he press hard and very2 versatile. In pep positional football, his ability to play on the wing, as am, as striker is very2 beneficial. The problem is he is just not a goal getter in Aguero class

[the wes 7,212]

Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas has confirmed Manchester United and Manchester City are interested in signing midfielder Tanguy Ndombele, but says his preference would be to sell to Juventus

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11707698/tanguy-ndombele-wanted-by-man-utd-and-man-city-says-lyon-president-jean-michel-aulas

[Vesper 30,272]

Chelsea target £35m-rated Nice right-back Youcef Atal this summer - if they can delay Fifa ban

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/04/29/chelsea-target-35m-rated-nice-right-back-youcef-atal-summer/

 

Chelsea have included Nice right-back Youcef Atal on a list of possible transfer targets this summer, should their Fifa ban be delayed.

The exciting 22 year-old is being tracked by a number of Europe’s biggest clubs, including Bayern Munich and Atletico Madrid, and would cost at least €40 million (£34.6m), although that price could go up.

Atal became the first Algerian to score a hat-trick in Ligue 1 for 33 years at the weekend, in Nice’s 3-0 win over Guingamp, prompting coach Patrick Vieira to try and dampen down the interest and insist he is not for sale.

However, Atal, who played on the left of midfield in that game, has already been scouted by clubs around Europe after a series of impressive performances; not least as a quick and skilful dribbler. It is therefore expected that Nice will have a fight on their hands should a bid be made and they try and keep him.

Atal only joined Nice last summer from Belgian club Kortrijk and has become a star of the Algerian national team which will compete in the Africa Cup of Nations in Egypt.

 

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[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

Van De beek is a super looking player. Judging this on 1 game by the way

[Vesper 30,272]

The 11 best players in Europe available for free

Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal)

Diego Godin (Atletico Madrid)

James Milner (Liverpool)

Adrien Rabiot (Paris Saint-Germain)

Yacine Brahimi (FC Porto)

Mario Balotelli (Marseille)

Alan Dzagoev (CSKA Moscow)

Hector Herrera (FC Porto)

Max Kruse (Werder Bremen)

Juan Mata (Manchester United)

Arjen Robben (Bayern Munich)

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Vesper said:

The 11 best players in Europe available for free

Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal)

Diego Godin (Atletico Madrid)

James Milner (Liverpool)

Adrien Rabiot (Paris Saint-Germain)

Yacine Brahimi (FC Porto)

Mario Balotelli (Marseille)

Alan Dzagoev (CSKA Moscow)

Hector Herrera (FC Porto)

Max Kruse (Werder Bremen)

Juan Mata (Manchester United)

Arjen Robben (Bayern Munich)

 

 

Ramsey is not available, he has signed for Juve.

Balotelli just signed for Marseille, did he ger a 6 month deal only?

 

 

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Juan Mata, Mario Balotelli and David Luiz: 25 players available on a free transfer this summer

 

https://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/juan-mata-mario-balotelli-and-david-luiz-25-players-available-on-a-free-transfer-this-summer-1.855020

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54 minutes ago, Vesper said:

The 11 best players in Europe available for free

Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal)

Diego Godin (Atletico Madrid)

James Milner (Liverpool)

Adrien Rabiot (Paris Saint-Germain)

Yacine Brahimi (FC Porto)

Mario Balotelli (Marseille)

Alan Dzagoev (CSKA Moscow)

Hector Herrera (FC Porto)

Max Kruse (Werder Bremen)

Juan Mata (Manchester United)

Arjen Robben (Bayern Munich)

 

 

Dzagoev is a big Chelsea fan

[Vesper 30,272]

Ryan Fraser

WTF

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/potential-consequences-chelsea-sign-ryan-fraser/

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36 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Ryan Fraser

WTF

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/potential-consequences-chelsea-sign-ryan-fraser/

If Bournemouth, I’d rather pick Akè or Brooks.

[the wes 7,212]

Manchester City have opted not to pursue a new left-back this summer and will continue to back Benjamin Mendy, Sky Sports News understands.

that's good news that means city will not go for Ben chilwell in the summer 

[Vesper 30,272]

23 minutes ago, the wes said:

Manchester City have opted not to pursue a new left-back this summer and will continue to back Benjamin Mendy, Sky Sports News understands.

that's good news that means city will not go for Ben chilwell in the summer 

thats not a shocker, when he is health Mendy is an absolute monster, and they will give him one more year to stay healthy

Alex Sando is on the verge of being too old, he turns 29 in the middle on next season, so not worth the £50m plus Juve will want. Why would you pay that for only one full sub 30yo season.

Only true upgrade would be Alaba, and good luck prying him away from Bayern. Alba at Barca is now 30 and will soon start to decline, probably within 2 years, 3 years max.

Alex Telles and Junior Firpo is the only other truly WC LB's who are remotely available, and I would take a healthy Mendy or them probably. Its a toss-up and a very expensive toss-up. Tey were on the verge of going for Firpo, but he has been hurt a tonne this year, so unless Real Madrid grabs him, Firpo should be there next year (and we need to grab him if Shitty/Real do not) or Chillwell. Firpo has far more upside, and is a far bigger and a far better athlete. I would also take Ferland Mendy. But, IF RM do not buy Junior, they will probably buy Ferland.

As soon as the bans are over, we HAVE to sell assclown Alonso. Wuthless as a fullback, I dont give a damn about that goal. So many jumped back on the Higs train after he scored. Look where that got them.

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I know many here don't want Sarri to be the manager next season and many certainly don't want this current midfield formation with Jorginho as regista, but SHOULD we continue with Sarri, Jorginho and 4-3-3, then Van De Beek is THE perfect player for that RCM position. Far superior to Kante in that role I'd say.

 

Van De Beek as RCM and Ziyech as RW with James as RB, new ST and new LB would elevate this Chelsea team to a whole new level.

[the wes 7,212]

35 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

I know many here don't want Sarri to be the manager next season and many certainly don't want this current midfield formation with Jorginho as regista, but SHOULD we continue with Sarri, Jorginho and 4-3-3, then Van De Beek is THE perfect player for that RCM position. Far superior to Kante in that role I'd say.

 

Van De Beek as RCM and Ziyech as RW with James as RB, new ST and new LB would elevate this Chelsea team to a whole new level.

Paris Saint-Germain have started talks with the representatives of Ajax midfielderDonny van de Beek over a potential move to the French capital, according to Canal+.

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It's as if he has just appeared on the scene