Special Juan 28,187 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 14 hours ago, Vesper said: Werner, Dembele, and Pulisic would cost around £275m. Zero chance we sell enough deadweight to pay for that. Lets say we get get £137.5m for Eden (a pipedream as he will only have 10 months left on contract at end if summer window). That still leaves us £137.5m short PLUS we would still REALLY need a WC CB and probably upgrades at LB and RB. For sure LB as I think Reece James can come in and take over from Azpi in 2 years or so. Kets just say for Arguments sake a WC CB and WC LB cost an additional £112.5m. That means even after selling Eden, we would need to generate 250 million MORE quid in sales to make it net zerp, or £150m in sales IF Roman tosses in £100m cash. That isnt happening. Plus, don't forget, we might be under the cosh of a 2 year transfer ban (and probably European footie as well) by next summer. Finally, the real stake is that the board truly rates Luiz, Alonso, Azpi (at RB) Willian, Pedro and I still think even Morata (I really do think Marina rates him still) as more than good enough for Sarri. Bottom line, don't get yer hopes up at all. I think the ABSOLUTE best we can hope for (assuming bans coming) is we somehow magically pull RW Nicolas Pepe, Seb Haller (Frankfurt CF) and CB Romagnoli from AC Milan and loan them back until summer to make sure the deals go down in January before the bans can hit. Would love to grab LW Chiesa and LB Firpo too, but that's simply too much to ask. Hell just those first 3 are never going to probably happen. The bit in bold is exactly what needs to happen, and I don't mean those actual players but more we need to spend very big. We have to sell deadwood, they have to be moved on ASAP no ifs buts or maybe's at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,277 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Special Juan said: The bit in bold is exactly what needs to happen, and I don't mean those actual players but more we need to spend very big. We have to sell deadwood, they have to be moved on ASAP no ifs buts or maybe's at all. I totally agree but I have zero faith in the board to be able to pull it off in the compressed time frame. They have foot-dragged for years. Don't see it all changing now in one month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, Vesper said: I totally agree but I have zero faith in the board to be able to pull it off in the compressed time frame. They have foot-dragged for years. Don't see it all changing now in one month. I don't think we will buy anyone in January, we are not that ambitious and the players we are crying out for won't be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,277 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Special Juan said: I don't think we will buy anyone in January, we are not that ambitious and the players we are crying out for won't be available. It will not help us this season but the best approach to getting top class players in January is to buy them now, and loan them back to the old club until summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 We should go for loans this winter. Loan in Cavani, Higuain, loan in Ashley Cole, loan in someone, I don't care. Don't overpay and get us in a top4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Vesper, kellzfresh and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,516 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, 11Drogba said: yes, pls God kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 If its true, wtf? We want to replace Azpi before we replace Alonso? And with fucking hysaj of all people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: If its true, wtf? We want to replace Azpi before we replace Alonso? And with fucking hysaj of all people. Hysaj is decent mate. Azpi is a rock defensively but he lacks the ability on the ball to play FB in Sarris system. kellzfresh and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Chelsea continuing to closely monitor Everton striker Richarlison — report https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2018/12/6/18128851/chelsea-continuing-to-closely-monitor-everton-striker-richarlison-report Yeah that seems about right for our club , there was some talk buying him 2 years ago for 10-15 mill lol probly 50mill now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Eden Hazard agreement Eden Hazard has reached a "total agreement" with Real Madrid, with Marco Asensio and Mateo Kovacic potentially going the other way, shock reports in Spain claim. Spanish outlet Telemadrid claim Real have an agreement with Hazard, with talks with Chelsea at an advanced stage. They add that Kovacic, currently on loan at Chelsea, and Asensio could head to the Blues on a permanent basis in a swap deal. Real are willing to fork out £89m (€100m) and include the two players in the part-exchange to sweeten the deal. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Christian Pulisic decision Christian Pulisic has no intention of leaving Borussia Dortmund, The National claims. The USA international is a target for both Liverpool and Chelsea, while Manchester United have also been linked with the winger. However, The National say the 20-year-old is grateful to Dortmund for handing him his big break in Europe. The news will come as a big blow to Liverpool and Chelsea who are big admirers of Pulisic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 hours ago, BlueLyon said: If its true, wtf? We want to replace Azpi before we replace Alonso? And with fucking hysaj of all people. That news piece suggested Hysaj is there to replace Zappacosta. 1 hour ago, DDA said: Hysaj is decent mate. Azpi is a rock defensively but he lacks the ability on the ball to play FB in Sarris system. Yeah but Alonso? 11 minutes ago, mccg said: Christian Pulisic decision Christian Pulisic has no intention of leaving Borussia Dortmund, The National claims. The USA international is a target for both Liverpool and Chelsea, while Manchester United have also been linked with the winger. However, The National say the 20-year-old is grateful to Dortmund for handing him his big break in Europe. The news will come as a big blow to Liverpool and Chelsea who are big admirers of Pulisic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I'm all for getting a better RB (sorry Azpi) but is really Hysaj the best option? To me he seems like Albanian Azpi I'm also afraid that if we get new RB then the board will sell Azpi to United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jason said: Yeah but Alonso? He needs to be replaced a.s.a.p. but i feel we should give Emerson a proper go, I really do. I still can't get over the fact we had Felipe Luis and let him go soo easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, mccg said: Eden Hazard agreement Eden Hazard has reached a "total agreement" with Real Madrid, with Marco Asensio and Mateo Kovacic potentially going the other way, shock reports in Spain claim. Spanish outlet Telemadrid claim Real have an agreement with Hazard, with talks with Chelsea at an advanced stage. They add that Kovacic, currently on loan at Chelsea, and Asensio could head to the Blues on a permanent basis in a swap deal. Real are willing to fork out £89m (€100m) and include the two players in the part-exchange to sweeten the deal. Are the shock reports from Don Balon? If not, then of course I hope that Hazard stays and commits, but if he really wants to go, then that deal doesn't look bad. €100m + Kovacic and Asensio, who together add the total up to over €200m. That's a very decent return for a wantaway player entering his last year. We add two quality(hopefully) players and get another €100m to spend. That money would then need to go on a striker. Maybe in the end it would benefit the team more than having only Hazard? Let's say we get Kovacic, Asensio and Icardi, who we otherwise couldn't afford without Hazard money. I'd be down with that. DDA, BlueSunshine and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Kovacic+Asensio+100 million sounds like a very good deal for a 28 year old player who has a year remaining in his contract You could use that 100 million to buy Icardi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,277 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, !Hazard! said: Kovacic+Asensio+100 million sounds like a very good deal for a 28 year old player who has a year remaining in his contract You could use that 100 million to buy Icardi There is ZERO chance, less than ZERO that Real will give us Asensio, Kovacic AND 100m for Hazard. That is just insane. I cant see them even giving up both Kovacic and Asension with NO money kicked in. They rate Asensio at over 100m quid quid alone, and Kovavcic at least at £50m or 60m, which he IS worth IF he is played in his natural position, a pure CMF (which is where the Yids will play him, they want him BAD (their fans are MORONS to slate him), not this Sarri cocked up and forced AMF role for him shite Real paid less than half what Big Nose was truly worth in similar circumstances. Hazard is worth (due to age) around £185-200m MAX next summer and that is if he had 3,4 years left on contract (which he doesnt). I cannot see Real paying more than 100m to £125m MAX in value for Hazard next summer. Not when they can get him on a free in 10 months. That level (let say they actually do value Eden at the full 125m) of valuation means if they toss Kovacic in the most cash we would see is 65m to 75m max, maybe maybe 85m if we really crank on them If its Asensio the max cash they would possibly toss in would be around £25m, MAYBE 35m to grease the skids. No way they go 2 for 1. If we did get both (and no cash) that would be great business, due to the board operating under the '1-year-left' cosh (their own fault btw!!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 hours ago, DDA said: He needs to be replaced a.s.a.p. but i feel we should give Emerson a proper go, I really do. I still can't get over the fact we had Felipe Luis and let him go soo easily. To be fair, Filipe Luis has hardly set the world alight since going back to Atletico and seems to be struggling in recent times as well, granted he's already 33 years old. The problem, as always with us, is not getting proper, adequate player and instead, choosing to go for the cheaper, average option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jason said: To be fair, Filipe Luis has hardly set the world alight since going back to Atletico and seems to be struggling in recent times as well, granted he's already 33 years old. The problem, as always with us, is not getting proper, adequate player and instead, choosing to go for the cheaper, average option. It's cost effective to just pay sizeable prices for the class player instead of multiple 'bargain' players. Obviously the results would be there. Or am I missing something? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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