Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, mashimaru161 said: I don't see how getting drop out of group stage and a straight red card consider as good performance. that is a team issue. I barca loose out in the champions league it doesnt affect neymar does it? lets not forget that Alli has been consistent in the last 2 seasons while hazard has not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashimaru161 77 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said: that is a team issue. I barca loose out in the champions league it doesnt affect neymar does it? lets not forget that Alli has been consistent in the last 2 seasons while hazard has not. Again, it did nothing to convince why a 11 goal scoring messi is less valuable than kane and alli. Cr7 scored an hattrick in semi final, a double against buffon... What is this? A click bait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, mashimaru161 said: Again, it did nothing to convince why a 11 goal scoring messi is less valuable than kane and alli. you will know why next season if mbappe does what he did this season again next season and is rated above messi. messi is 30yrs while mbappe (19), Alli(20), Kane(24), Neymar(24) but are all playing like players in their prime. Messi has about 4-6yrs of top level football left while the others have 11-16yrs of top level football left. **that is if all are to stop playing football at 35-36yrs** Messi right now can only go in a downward tragectory while the others can only get better. This same concept is used in the FIFA game where as a player gets to 30yrs his value goes down. Next year expect messi to drop further down the list. Just take a look at CR7 the ballon dor holder and ask y he is there? Sports in general age counts for alot as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashimaru161 77 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said: you will know why next season if mbappe does what he did this season again next season and is rated above messi. messi is 30yrs while mbappe (19), Alli(20), Kane(24), Neymar(24) but are all playing like players in their prime. Messi has about 4-6yrs of top level football left while the others have 11-16yrs of top level football left. **that is if all are to stop playing football at 35-36yrs** Messi right now can only go in a downward tragectory while the others can only get better. This same concept is used in the FIFA game where as a player gets to 30yrs his value goes down. Next year expect messi to drop further down the list. Just take a look at CR7 the ballon dor holder and ask y he is there? Sports in general age counts for alot as well real value does not count like that, friend. Sure, potential is a factor but not a major one. There is other things like consistency and injury prone, of course personal award. Messi price would drop but he is no way less valueable than kane and alli now. 1 goal/ 532 mins, good performance? Kane is their main striker so 2 goal 3 games is unacceptable. Your team can play like shit but a moment of genius can change the game. These two have show nothing of big game quality so far. I would rather trust transfermarkt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,871 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Sunderland accept bid from Everton of 30M for Jordan Pickford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Sunderland accept bid from Everton of 30M for Jordan Pickford. Good keeper but he's no £30m keeper English players are so overpriced no wonder chelsea don't buy English players King11Didier and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,384 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Meanwhile, at Chelsea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,230 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, the wes said: Good keeper but he's no £30m keeper English players are so overpriced no wonder chelsea don't buy English players I don't think the previous keepers prices makes any relevance as the value in the market is increasing every season. Because of the TV money, the prices are fluctuating. For instance DDG will be worth more this season than last season. Just way it is. However £30m for a keeper is too much considering Sunderland were relegated. Sunderland are losing a talent but I would be delighted with that deal if I was a Sunderland fan/manager/board whoever. They have reliable back up in Mannone. Surely there were other good keepers Everton could of got for half that price. However because of the TV money and the potential Lukaku deal, prob does not bother Koeman. Tautvix, the wes and mashimaru161 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashimaru161 77 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, Pizy said: Meanwhile, at Chelsea... ...Conte is on a vacation and would surely evaluate the work after he gets back, so calm down and stop breathing over the board neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,384 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, mashimaru161 said: ...Conte is on a vacation and would surely evaluate the work after he gets back, so calm down and stop breathing over the board neck Yeah, yeah. I know it's still early and it's no time to be worried. At the same time, though, Pep & Mourinho are on holiday too and their clubs have been busy. City have already made 2 key signings and United are on the brink of making their 2nd key signing. mccg and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,349 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Pizy said: Yeah, yeah. I know it's still early and it's no time to be worried. At the same time, though, Pep & Mourinho are on holiday too and their clubs have been busy. City have already made 2 key signings and United are on the brink of making their 2nd key signing. Mourinho is always on holiday lad, the guys been stopping in a hotel all year lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashimaru161 77 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Pizy said: Yeah, yeah. I know it's still early and it's no time to be worried. At the same time, though, Pep & Mourinho are on holiday too and their clubs have been busy. City have already made 2 key signings and United are on the brink of making their 2nd key signing. I would like to clarify that mancity signings is a potential young star and a goalkeeper who's good with his legs. Man u is another young defender and morata deal is not definite yet. so far l'equipe has reported that baka deal will be wrapped up after he finishes his international duty and lukaku deal hopefully will follow around 70m pounds. so unless you are into gk has nice legs or young dc while we get christensen. I see no point in panicking while the man in charge is still pretty cool. If he conte does leave, please remember to invite me to "emennono out" campaign but of course, please ignore all the positive thing i've said above so that we can have a legit excuse to blame how incompetent the board is! It's more fun this way! AK-3001 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/antonio-conte-steps-up-chelsea-10611972 I guess if you're gonna aim, might as well aim high! ahaha Bonucci, Sandro, Lukaku, Verratti, Bakayoko Conte plays FIFA/FM too i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnald 256 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 hours ago, mashimaru161 said: ...Conte is on a vacation and would surely evaluate the work after he gets back, so calm down and stop breathing over the board neck No. This is why you have a director of football. At Arsenal, Wenger does all the signing business. At Chelsea, Emenalo does it as does Marina. Conte can only name some names of players he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnald 256 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 hours ago, akgw13 said: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/antonio-conte-steps-up-chelsea-10611972 I guess if you're gonna aim, might as well aim high! ahaha Bonucci, Sandro, Lukaku, Verratti, Bakayoko Conte plays FIFA/FM too i guess Indeed and none of these are coming except for Bakayoko and maybe Rom. Verratti, Sandro, Bonucci, Alexis Sanchez: all not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashimaru161 77 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dahnald said: No. This is why you have a director of football. At Arsenal, Wenger does all the signing business. At Chelsea, Emenalo does it as does Marina. Conte can only name some names of players he wants. What i mean is he will leave if we fucks up another season again if he's ok with what we get in the end then why not continue to support our club? is there anything that can sastify you, donald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Not sure why people use Man City as a comparison they have a bottomless pit of money they say name your price and the deal is done. Chelsea have to be a bit more pragmatic these days and if that means we don't end up with the likes of Rooney and Stones I'm not complaining. Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,384 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said: Not sure why people use Man City as a comparison they have a bottomless pit of money they say name your price and the deal is done. Chelsea have to be a bit more pragmatic these days and if that means we don't end up with the likes of Rooney and Stones I'm not complaining. New Nike sponsorship that's one of the biggest ever in world football, loads and loads of cash received from recent player sales, £200m received from wining the league. And that's before you even add whatever Roman will pay out of pocket. We sort of do have a bottomless pit of cash on hand. We just appear (so far, and over the past couple of windows) unwilling to break the bank. Do we call that smart or intelligent or are we being left behind by other big clubs? We have to wait until this window is over to find out. The way we've been somewhat restrained and calculating in recent windows by not spending excessively, the funds should now be there to splash out in a huge way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,187 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Pizy said: New Nike sponsorship that's one of the biggest ever in world football, loads and loads of cash received from recent player sales, £200m received from wining the league. And that's before you even add whatever Roman will pay out of pocket. We sort of do have a bottomless pit of cash on hand. We just appear (so far, and over the past couple of windows) unwilling to break the bank. Do we call that smart or intelligent or are we being left behind by other big clubs? We have to wait until this window is over to find out. The way we've been somewhat restrained and calculating in recent windows by not spending excessively, the funds should now be there to splash out in a huge way. And one eye on the new Bridge that's where all that Nike money will go. We have another bad season like last year no Champions league football and the possibility of playing at Wembley in a few years time who I presume will be taking their cut of gate receipts. Will be interesting as well about selling club merchandise at Wembley because again presumably they will take a cut. Chelsea rely on one man's benevolence not the Aui Dhabi royal family who let's not forget own two other football clubs even if they are no great shakes (sorry couldn't resist the pun ). We are hardly been left behind by other clubs when it comes to success all I'm saying are the days of Torres like signings are over thank god and belts are being tightened. mashimaru161 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnald 256 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 hours ago, mashimaru161 said: What i mean is he will leave if we fucks up another season again if he's ok with what we get in the end then why not continue to support our club? is there anything that can sastify you, donald Sorry, but where in my post you quoted did I bitch about Emenalo or our board? I cannot do anything. I cannot force Chelsea to sign Verratti or challenge Arsenal for Sanchez. There is nothing we can do as fans, so I will contain myself from melting. It's simple: if Chelsea fuck up, Conte is gone. From the moment that happens, we can all have our meltdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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