Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[the wes 7,212]

2 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Belotti, Nainggolan & Sanchez seem like realistic targets that would improve our XI. We also need at least one WB upgrade along with another CB.

The grey area right now is who's staying and going.

How about yourself?

Nice pick I would take Belotti, Nainggolan & Sanchez aswell and van Dijk, conti 

[chelsea_4_eva 1,182]

6 hours ago, nyikolajevics said:

No, it's july the 1st.

Agreements can be reached though and clubs can even announce signing players(Bermardo Silva or Tielemans are already official) but they can only be registered from july.

Cheers mate!

[OhForAGreavsie 6,075]

On 27/05/2017 at 0:38 PM, Leif said:

..but Chelsea want the credit of taking the lesser jewel and having greater reward. We've always had this habit as a club, whereas Man City just go for the literal best instead. That's where we allowed them to become dominant...

Since the investment arrived at City they have spent a great deal more money than Chelsea have in the same period. They have built successful teams, playing football which is widely admired.

In that time we have won a League Cup, a Europa League, a Champions League, three FA Cups, three Premier Premier Leagues plus reached a number of other domestic/European finals and semifinals.

City's record is less impressive, so maybe "dominant" is a bit too much praise for the blue Mancunians' methods, and a little too much implied criticism of ours.

[the wes 7,212]

Marco Reus won’t be moving anywhere fast this summer.

The German has suffered a partial tear of his cruciate knee ligament playing in the DFL Pokal Cup for Dortmund.

There is no official word on the injury and how long he’ll be out.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

On 2017-5-27 at 1:38 PM, Leif said:

I hate the idea of Bakayoko coming here. It reeks to me of the club trying to be smart in almost a witty manner. The guy's surrounded by players who're better, but Chelsea want the credit of taking the lesser jewel and having greater reward. We've always had this habit as a club, whereas Man City just go for the literal best instead. That's where we allowed them to become dominant; us chasing the likes of Oscar and Willian before they're the finished article, so we can take credit for getting players before they're big, but City go out and buy the likes of De Bruyne, Sane or Silva at the top of their game, once they've actually proven they're a top dog - something Bakayoko's yet to prove (Fabinho & co. have proven they are). 

Out of Monaco's wonder-bunch, if you left just Fabinho, or just Lemar, or just Silva in that team while all the others were sold, you'd still expect them to be top 2 in their league. But if the 1 lone survivor is Bakayoko, and all those other players leave, surely nobody can picture that boding well for them.

Shame is they wouldn't have shelled out so much on Tielemans unless they were certain a midfielder was moving on. So either Fabinho who a lot of us like joins a club which probably isn't us, boohoo, or we get Bakayoko according to the papers, boohoo again, IMO.

It'd be like Real Madrid choosing Willian over Hazard. Just because they've both given top performances in top games for a top team doesn't mean they're both top players. One has been carried more than a few times, whereas the other hasn't. This applies to Monaco.

Tbh I think we were more or less very good in transfer business. Yes we dont go for top players every year, and there were windows we did absolutely nothing, but generaly we make some of best deals in football today. 

Im glad we dont go like city and overpay every player just to get them. 

Kante, Azpi, Eden are brilliant examples.

We aint Real or Barca and we cant create galacticos and dominate world football. But we can follow the middle way, just like Juve is also doing.

Spend wise. Just because city buys all these players means nothing. They might flop aswell. Or not. We will see in august. 

Perhaps only black spot is how we play football. But then again, we win trophies and still play very nice in periods. Hardly any english club can say that. Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern and maybe Atletico are only teams that achieved more than us in past few years, so we realy cant complain. We as fans underrate what club did in recent years. 

I trust Conte with the dealings, and hopefuly he gets whoever he wants. Be it Sanchez or Perisic. As long he has clear objective we must retain PL next year and start chasing CL.

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I think we idealy need two fullbacks and CM given that Costa stays.

Nelsinho/Walker and Mendy/Bertrand for FBs, plus one of Radja, Bakayoko, Fabinho, Tollisso, maybe even Vidal/Veratti/Modric if somehow possible.

Any money left for Dijk/Laporte for CB and top RW and we gonna challenge for every trophy there is.

[LAM09 7,056]

Tbh I think we were more or less very good in transfer business. Yes we dont go for top players every year, and there were windows we did absolutely nothing, but generaly we make some of best deals in football today. 
Im glad we dont go like city and overpay every player just to get them. 
Kante, Azpi, Eden are brilliant examples.
We aint Real or Barca and we cant create galacticos and dominate world football. But we can follow the middle way, just like Juve is also doing.
Spend wise. Just because city buys all these players means nothing. They might flop aswell. Or not. We will see in august. 
Perhaps only black spot is how we play football. But then again, we win trophies and still play very nice in periods. Hardly any english club can say that. Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern and maybe Atletico are only teams that achieved more than us in past few years, so we realy cant complain. We as fans underrate what club did in recent years. 
I trust Conte with the dealings, and hopefuly he gets whoever he wants. Be it Sanchez or Perisic. As long he has clear objective we must retain PL next year and start chasing CL.
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I think we idealy need two fullbacks and CM given that Costa stays.
Nelsinho/Walker and Mendy/Bertrand for FBs, plus one of Radja, Bakayoko, Fabinho, Tollisso, maybe even Vidal/Veratti/Modric if somehow possible.
Any money left for Dijk/Laporte for CB and top RW and we gonna challenge for every trophy there is.

That's going to involve alot of spending that I don't see happening. It's been a while since we've brought in multiple players.

[Superblue 6,372]

5 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

That's going to involve alot of spending that I don't see happening. It's been a while since we've brought in multiple players.

 

I think the board will agree this time it's necessary. There is too much money now in the Premier League, all the clubs around us will spend money and we cannot afford to stand still. The fear of what happened last season as well serves as a warning!

On top of that all of the commercial deals we have negotiated are now paying out, and our dealings on the outgoing side of the transfer market has been very strong in the last couple of years.

Also it's clear with how few players we used this season that this squad needs numbers.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

15 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

That's going to involve alot of spending that I don't see happening. It's been a while since we've brought in multiple players.

 

Like I said, two FBs and CM are absolute necessary, I dont think its impossible to get three players, and they wouldnt cost that much, considering we also have 70m from Oscar. 

Then if anything left, we might target CB and RW, depends on what Conte wants.

I just hope we dont get CB, one FB and forward, while stuck with current midfielders. Midfielder is absolute priority given we cant control the games and make the movement of the ball fluid through the middle.

[LAM09 7,056]

I think the board will agree this time it's necessary. There is too much money now in the Premier League, all the clubs around us will spend money and we cannot afford to stand still. The fear of what happened last season as well serves as a warning!

On top of that all of the commercial deals we have negotiated are now paying out, and our dealings on the outgoing side of the transfer market has been very strong in the last couple of years.

Also it's clear with how few players we used this season that this squad needs numbers.

It should do as we stood still when Mou won the title and look at the season we had. Money surely can't be an issue for multiple reasons, but it's about Roman want to spend at this point.

Like I said, two FBs and CM are absolute necessary, I dont think its impossible to get three players, and they wouldnt cost that much, considering we also have 70m from Oscar. 

Then if anything left, we might target CB and RW, depends on what Conte wants.

I just hope we dont get CB, one FB and forward, while stuck with current midfielders. Midfielder is absolute priority given we cant control the games and make the movement of the ball fluid through the middle.

We should have bought a ball playing CM last season. It's a must now we'll be coming up against better teams in the CL.

Might have walked the league in the end, but there's a lot of room for improvement regardless. I just don't see us ticking all the boxes during this window.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,075]

5 hours ago, LAM09 said:

...We should have bought a ball playing CM last season. It's a must now we'll be coming up against better teams in the CL.

He might have walked the league in the end, but there's a lot of room for improvement regardless. I just don't see us ticking all the boxes during this window...

 

Agreed.

This is why it was so frustrating that we were unable to do any business in January. It was obvious that we needed a number of upgrades, and clear that recruiting enough quality players in a single, highly competitive, market would be near impossible.

[It's too big 625]

How about we start playing some youth? Baker returns, Christensen returns, we also have Aina and Musonda. We don't need to keep spending big to make the team strong. Spurs haven't spent big and have come very close to winning the league the last two years, and their team is built on young English talent. The success of Barca, Utd, Bayern, Real Madrid during their great years was built on youth. We can also improve the squad by buying talent, but it's about time we used our youth. You can't tell me all of our young talent isn't good enough; they just need the chance. 

[gadget 126]

I think we need a new CM-RB-RW-LB in that order of importance. thats provided we dont sell anyone, if we do we may need to reinvest. Youngsters/loanees that could push into the mix for next season: Christensen, Baker, Musonda, chalobah and Possibly Tammy. Loans for RLC and  maybe Zouma 

[Pizy 18,914]

If all of these signings happen City will have an unbelievable team. How on Earth they'll manage to keep all of those attacking players happy is puzzling. They'll have a top class player in every position on the pitch and about £100m+ worth of depth on the bench at any given time.

We better have some crazy good business lined up because the two Manchester clubs will be buying multiple world class players. Will we even be shopping in the same bracket? Or are we buying solid, but not top players? 

[Leif 6,006]

9 times out of 10 a sane man who plays for Arsenal chooses Man City over us in this position. It's simply so much less heat on your back.

[akgw13 867]

22 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If all of these signings happen City will have an unbelievable team. How on Earth they'll manage to keep all of those attacking players happy is puzzling. They'll have a top class player in every position on the pitch and about £100m+ worth of depth on the bench at any given time.

We better have some crazy good business lined up because the two Manchester clubs will be buying multiple world class players. Will we even be shopping in the same bracket? Or are we buying solid, but not top players? 

We always say this isnt FIFA but maybe...just maybe it is! aha IF and its a big IF city manage to pull that off, look out. Id pay to watch their starters play the backups 

But ill stick with what I've been saying, Silly season is long and you don't get anything for "Winning" it. We have a plan Conte has worked on with the board and I trust in it.

[Pizy 18,914]

3 minutes ago, akgw13 said:

We always say this isnt FIFA but maybe...just maybe it is! aha IF and its a big IF city manage to pull that off, look out. Id pay to watch their starters play the backups 

But ill stick with what I've been saying, Silly season is long and you don't get anything for "Winning" it. We have a plan Conte has worked on with the board and I trust in it.

This is my thinking, too, and why I won't start panicking any time soon. Conte will obviously have a list of players he wants already in the hands of our board. The problem and concern is that many of the players we want are also top targets for our direct rivals who can offer more money.

It seems like City want their business done ASAP. Let's hope we do the same.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

35 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If all of these signings happen City will have an unbelievable team. How on Earth they'll manage to keep all of those attacking players happy is puzzling. They'll have a top class player in every position on the pitch and about £100m+ worth of depth on the bench at any given time.

We better have some crazy good business lined up because the two Manchester clubs will be buying multiple world class players. Will we even be shopping in the same bracket? Or are we buying solid, but not top players? 

This is so depressing. Walker, Sanchez, Mendy and maybe even Bernardo Silva are all signings we could use, too. I am not anticipating that we will not be doing good business as well but I wish we would get shit done as early as City too. 

[Leif 6,006]

I do anticipate a bad summer for us. Either 2nd-tier players who'll never reach the top, or 'potential' players who aren't even in that 2nd-tier themselves yet. We'll go for the players who don't influence a game whatsoever, but on a personal level are potentially great, while City go for players who actually gel and help them get 6 goals a game.

United will have a summer somewhere in the middle. 

If the board were serious, announcements would already have been made. Better transfer links would have been established.
But, no, we chase great potential, not great performers.
The difference that'll give City the title next season.
Gabriel Jesus might be the only 'potential' player I remember them buying in the last 5 years; everyone else was clearly in their prime, or only just past it with heaps of experience. Some players were downright bad, but none were stalled, failed, unfulfilled or simply truly average youth potential. They don't have the same fetish of acquiring stones in hope one day society considers them gems.

 

tee-hee

 

[Pizy 18,914]

2 minutes ago, Leif said:

I do anticipate a bad summer for us. Either 2nd-tier players who'll never reach the top, or 'potential' player who aren't even in that 2nd-tier themselves yet. We'll go for the players who don't influence a game whatsoever, but on a personal level are potentially great, while City go for players who actually gel and help them get 6 goals a game.

United will have a summer somewhere in the middle. 

If the board were serious, announcements would already have been made. Better transfer links would have been established.
But, no, we chase great potential, not great performers. The difference that'll give City the title next season. Gabriel Jesus might be the only 'potential' player I remember them buying in the last 5 years. 

Sterling and Stones were both "potentially" top players. 

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Would love to see Llorente, Nainggolan and another backup winger (Mahrez maybe). Involve some of the youngster to fill the empty spaces, and we are ready to go.