Spike 12,049 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Fair point..but would the sweeper fit into Chelsea's tactics...it's not like we play with a 3-man or 5-man defence.Everytime Luiz brings the ball forward with one of his runs/dribbles I stop breathing.CFAM - AMDM - CMLB - CB - SW - CB - RBGK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 CechDavid LuizAshley Cole - Gary Cahill - John Terry - Branislav IvanovicFrank Lampard - Jon Obi MikelJuan Mata - Eden HazardFernando TorresWhy not?Because no one has played with a sweeper snince the early 90s. It only works when the oposition does not have a midfield and just lumps balls froward from the defense . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Because no one has played with a sweeper snince the early 90s. It only works when the oposition does not have a midfield and just lumps balls froward from the defense .And just how many EPL teams do that? Quite a lot. It wouldn't work in Europe, but it would mop the floor with Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 And just how many EPL teams do that? Quite a lot. It wouldn't work in Europe, but it would mop the floor with Liverpool.Wouldn't JT be better suited to be a Sweeper as he can read the game better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 And just how many EPL teams do that? Quite a lot. It wouldn't work in Europe, but it would mop the floor with Liverpool.But strikers' movement has changed massively in the last 20 years which is why everyone stopped using a sweeper in the first place. With no offside line, we're bound to give away at least a couple of breakaways in each match. It's too dangerous imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 But strikers' movement has changed massively in the last 20 years which is why everyone stopped using a sweeper in the first place. With no offside line, we're bound to give away at least a couple of breakaways in each match. It's too dangerous imo.Good point I forgot the offside rule was changed in the 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 CechDavid LuizAshley Cole - Gary Cahill - John Terry - Branislav IvanovicFrank Lampard - Jon Obi MikelJuan Mata - Eden HazardFernando TorresWhy not?Because it looks to me like you're playing Cole at right back and Ivanovic at left back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Because it looks to me like you're playing Cole at right back and Ivanovic at left back That was already pointed out wise guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 That was already pointed out wise guy.You have my most sincere apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody 209 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 We don't have Bosingwa anymore...yes, edited my line-ups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I was thinking something along the lines of - CourtoisLahm, Cahill, Luiz, BertrandSchweinsteiger, MikelRonaldo, Mata, MessiNeymarI'm sure we could get most of them on a free by around 2026, assuming they're still playing, or for just a few £million.(No one said how far into the future, so this is my future team!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 My team of the future:---------------Courtois---------------------Ivan---Chalobah---Luiz---Ryan-----------------Josh--Romeu-----------------------------DeBruyne------------------Feruz------Lukaku-----Piazon----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinedine Iniesco 172 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 What does future mean? Anything we want it to? Ill just post the ideas for 12/13, or better yet, ill post what i think could happen albeit may not be realistic in may eyes for several reasons.Ill have to look more at modric to see if my assertion would be a good one. Hopefully torres does well and wins his spot, or else gets replaced like a scrub, by a goal scoring phenom.Debuchy aint the youngest rb out there but if you want what may be considered an improvement, @ 27 debuchy is a good well rounded rb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 No Ramires?Forgot to name all hundred players we have in first team and all reserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Forgot to name all hundred players we have in first team and all reserves No, what I meant was, no Ramires starting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Future team is our team in few years, not next season.Formation 4:2:3:1Courtois - replacement for Cech, looking good so farAzpi -he is not here yet, but I hope soon he will. Eventualy he will play in Spain 11 and he is great both, defence and attackLuiz- already hereCahill - probably captain, he will be the oldest in squadBertrand - next Cole I thinkMikel- at his best age (28 or sth), he will be destructor in midfieldDe Bruyne - new Lampard, if he evolves. The creativity and defenceHazard, Mata - playmakers for Chelseanew winger (Hulk, Dzagoev, Ayew,...) - we need to buy someone on this position, maybe even MarinLukaku/Sturridge - power in attack, hope they will both be class---Josh, Ramires, Kane, Piazon, Hutch, Kalas (Cahill replacement), Romeu (Mikels replacement)I just wonder if we have Mata, Hulk and Hazard in attack, how and when will player like Piazon get a chance to play regulary. At age of 25, when Mata and Hazard will be older, will be to late... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'd LOVE to see this team some day (or something similar) -1) - This starting line-up features 5 British players, which is rare for a top team in England to do (only Manchester United and Tottenham ever seem to achieve this.) This would give us good communication, especially down the left flank.2) - Bertrand started his career as a winger - Bale started his career as a full-back. They now play those roles reversed. Having them on the same flank would be awe-inspiring. They would switch between being a winger and being a full back throughout the game, constantly keeping the opposition on their toes. The left side would be defended extremely well. Not many players would get in a cross from our left flank!3) - Luiz COULD in SOME games play as a Libero, bringing the ball out of defence and playmaking, with brilliant long passes reaching Bale/Hazard, or short ones reaching our main playmaker - in this picture, De Bruyne. You will see the arrows coming off of Romeu. When Luiz does go forward, he can go back a bit and reconnect the back 4.4) - When getting stretched too much in midfield due to the opposition having more/better/faster wingers, Todd Kane would come out of defence and play in his wide-midfield role, while again, Romeu would drop back (but not quite as deep this time, otherwise the centre would be exposed with only De Bruyne there.)5) - De Bruyne would hold his position in the middle, being our central heartbeat playmaker, dictating tempo, while Hazard and Mata constantly change positions, creating havoc in the final 3rd. They would also both act as advanced playmakers. This gives us a playmaker in every single area of the pitch at all times, meaning we should dominate possession each game.6) - Sturridge wouldn't do too much. Simply goal poach as I believe that's how we'd get the best out of him, considering his great speed, unpredictability and big balls to try shots that other strikers wouldn't dare doing.7) - We then have the likes of Ramires, McEachran, Lukaku, Marin, Kalas, Ivanovic (if he's still around), van Aanholt (if he stays as back up, which I doubt) etc. all able to slot into this tactic.This team would have the perfect balance of attack and defence, and would also feature a few home-grown players which is great to see.When up against a daunting opponent such as Real Madrid, Todd Kane would start in midfield as he's naturally more defensive minded, creating a flat four of Bale, De Bruyne, Romeu, Kane, while whoever we have as a rotation option would start at right back. One of Hazard or Mata would then be dropped, and we'd play 1 attacking midfielder behind Sturridge. We then counter attack with amazing pace, and defend in numbers.(Of course these wouldn't be our tactics EVERY game. This would simply be what our other tactics are based on.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 No, what I meant was, no Ramires starting?Among players like Mata, Hazard, Hulk, Mikel and de Bruyne in 2015, there is no place for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyroossimo 6 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I Like a 4-2-2-2 Formation, with 2 CMs instead of 2 CDMs or myb 1 very good and fit playmaking CDM and a more attacking CM. -------COURTOIS------- KALAS---CAHILL---LUIZ---BERTRAND/JORDI ALBA (IF BARCA DONT GET HIM EARLY) -----RAMIRES------DE BRUYNE----- MATA ----- HAZARD STURRIDGE LUKAKU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I heard people were starting to get annoyed how every thread is starting to become endless lists of starting lineups whenever we were linked to a new player, so thought we could have a dedicated thread to possible lineups and strategies, no matter how different they may be, or whether they are just a thought, and can have whatever players we are linked to or have.footballuser.com is a great site to use if you want all that.Here is my starting line up if the Oscar deal goes through.Obviously, Lampard will have a big role to play in one of those Cm spots and also the RW spot could go to hulk if we sign him, and ramires could have to play more central.What formations would you like to see etc. Some even were talking of a 4-6-0, which in my opinion would be ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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