Wishlist Robert Lewandowski

[Madmax 9,219]

^ It's a football forum and you're in the 'Transfer Wishlist' section - stay out if the discussion bothers you so much. Shit sarcasm btw.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

^ It's a football forum and you're in the 'Transfer Wishlist' section - stay out if the discussion bothers you so much. Shit sarcasm btw.

oops, did I hit a nerve? It doesn't bother me, just feel inadequate amongst all the great footballing minds. Sorry for the shit sarcasm, perhaps you could school me on it some time

[The only place to be 11,313]

What makes you think that Lewandowski won't be able to create space for others with his off the movement? He's just as effective outside the box as he is inside of it. Whether it's holding the ball up, linking the play, play 1-2s or create space for others, he can do that.

We can talk about how much a goal poacher is great because they can convert chances to goals and all that but with how the game is developing now, a more all rounder striker like Lewandowski is much more valuable. It allows the team to play in more than 1 way and making us less predictable. You wanna go more direct and ask that ST to hold up the play and linking with others whether it's movement or playing 1-2s like Drogba used to do for us, he can do that. You want to ask him play on the last shoulder of the defenders, he can also do that.

Goal poachers are limited as a player. Give them chances to score and they'll score most of the time. However, if you don't give him chances, then we are practically playing with 10 men just like how things are sometimes with Torres playing upfront for us.

Sometimes it's best to go with specialists in one area rather than go for people who can do multiple things. You can have the best Plan A that you can and then develop a Plan B (such as going with Lukaku).

I also think it's tremendously myopic to view players in such limiting ways - Falcao is a poacher but he's also able to work in the build-up play too.

[Madmax 9,219]

oops, did I hit a nerve?

No, pointing out dickish behaviour for what it is.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

No, pointing out dickish behaviour for what it is.

alright fella cheers for that

[Jase 43,479]

Sometimes it's best to go with specialists in one area rather than go for people who can do multiple things. You can have the best Plan A that you can and then develop a Plan B (such as going with Lukaku).

Just look at the likes of Tevez, Van Persie or Rooney(in form). They don't only score the goals but can also create for others by linking up the play etch. Just because they are specialize in more than 1 thing, doesn't mean they are not a good player. Nobody said anything like that when we had Drogba! Even with Drogba, we still different type of STs in Anelka, Kalou etc to provide something different upfront.

Problem with limited players is that if the opponent can prevent that ST from playing to his strengths, then he becomes immediately useless because he is limited and doesn't possess other type of abilities to help the team. At least with an all rounder ST, if the opponent negate one of their strengths, then he can use his other strengths/abilities to benefit the team as well in a dfferent way.

[Hutcho 8,443]

It doesn't matter how good he is or isn't really atm as there is such a small chance of us getting him and he looks extremely likely to be joining united in the summer.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Just look at the likes of Tevez, Van Persie or Rooney(in form). They don't only score the goals but can also create for others by linking up the play etch. Just because they are specialize in more than 1 thing, doesn't mean they are not a good player. Nobody said anything like that when we had Drogba! Even with Drogba, we still different type of STs in Anelka, Kalou etc to provide something different upfront.

Problem with limited players is that if the opponent can prevent that ST from playing to his strengths, then he becomes immediately useless because he is limited and doesn't possess other type of abilities to help the team. At least with an all rounder ST, if the opponent negate one of their strengths, then he can use his other strengths/abilities to benefit the team as well in a dfferent way.

Keeping Falcao quiet will take at least 2 defenders, that leaves more space for our other players to exploit.

So to me that's not a 'valid argument' against not having a specialist...

Not being funny, just my opinion

[Hutcho 8,443]

Keeping Falcao quiet will take at least 2 defenders, that leaves more space for our other players to exploit.

So to me that's not a 'valid argument' against not having a specialist...

Not being funny, just my opinion

That is what the forum is for...

Lewandowski is better value at just over 15 mil but falcao is better imo. I am sure lewandowski will be a great finisher though at the bridge...

When he is scoring for united.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Just look at the likes of Tevez, Van Persie or Rooney(in form). They don't only score the goals but can also create for others by linking up the play etch. Just because they are specialize in more than 1 thing, doesn't mean they are not a good player. Nobody said anything like that when we had Drogba! Even with Drogba, we still different type of STs in Anelka, Kalou etc to provide something different upfront.

Problem with limited players is that if the opponent can prevent that ST from playing to his strengths, then he becomes immediately useless because he is limited and doesn't possess other type of abilities to help the team. At least with an all rounder ST, if the opponent negate one of their strengths, then he can use his other strengths/abilities to benefit the team as well in a dfferent way.

Again, this is a simplistic way of looking at the contribution of players but fine....let's accept that Lewandowski's 'ability to help the team' (which has enabled him to get a massive THREE assists to Falcao's pitiful ONE) makes him 'an all-rounder'......

Ugh....

Look, it's not just about passing - It's about tying players up. You don't just contribute as a striker by winning headers or dropping off the front line (all of which I'm sure Falcao can do because I've seen him do it). You also contribute by taking a defender away from an attacking midfielder by making off the ball runs which a defender has to defend. That creates space for the likes of Mata or Hazard which is just as important as winning a knock-down for them to run onto.

Ultimately it comes down to want your team to do.

[Jase 43,479]

Keeping Falcao quiet will take at least 2 defenders, that leaves more space for our other players to exploit.

So to me that's not a 'valid argument' against not having a specialist...

Not being funny, just my opinion

Not necessary. Falcao maybe a great finisher but don't think he excels at linking up play. Though Lewandowski's finish may not be great but he's great at linking up the play etc and given that he's only 24 and available for a reasonable low fee, he can only get better.

Feel free to disagree if you want.

Again, this is a simplistic way of looking at the contribution of players but fine....let's accept that Lewandowski's 'ability to help the team' (which has enabled him to get a massive THREE assists to Falcao's pitiful ONE) makes him 'an all-rounder'......

Simplistic way of looking at the contribution of players? Just look at goal poachers like Mario Gomez then for Bayern. What else does he contribute to the team besides scoring goals? Same goes with Hernandez at United.

Ugh....

Look, it's not just about passing - It's about tying players up. You don't just contribute as a striker by winning headers or dropping off the front line (all of which I'm sure Falcao can do because I've seen him do it). You also contribute by taking a defender away from an attacking midfielder by making off the ball runs which a defender has to defend. That creates space for the likes of Mata or Hazard which is just as important as winning a knock-down for them to run onto.

Ultimately it comes down to want your team to do.

All of which Lewandowski can do as well and you're basically just repeating what my point about the STs.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Not necessary. Falcao maybe a great finisher but don't think he excels at linking up play. Though Lewandowski's finish may not be great but he's great at linking up the play etc and given that he's only 24 and available for a reasonable low fee, he can only get better.

Feel free to disagree if you want.

Simplistic way of looking at the contribution of players? Just look at goal poachers like Mario Gomez then for Bayern. What else does he contribute to the team besides scoring goals? Same goes with Hernandez at United.

All of which Lewandowski can do as well and you're basically just repeating what my point about the STs.

'What does he contribute besides scoring goals?' might be one of the best things I've read on here. I hear Falcao can crochet and has a casual interest in hairdressing. That would help the squad.

Right now, Falcao is probably the best in the world at what he does. He does something we need. Now there are virtues to having Lewandowski over him, such as his age and the fact that he plays in a similar style to us, although there are rather stark stylistic differences. But let's not focus on superficial things like their contribution to the team which is partly down to the role they're asked to play and also doesn't seem to be supported by anything beyond your opinion.

We'd be lucky to pick up either player, and based on what I've seen they're both better options than Cavani but you've not presented a single argument with facts that supports the theory that Lewandowski would be a better option for our team.