Juan Mata

[Jase 43,479]

I know stats and numbers are a nice way to value and judge a player but to just use that alone to form conclusions about a player is extremely myopic. Quantitative is good but you can't leave out the qualitative analysis either.

[mac.bo 48]

Mata's goals&assists should be noted by Jose , We should building our team around him !

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Creating goals and scoring them is best INDIVIDUAL skill for CAM. And in this department, ozil and mata have no competition. When comes to winning trophies, stats matter little, but as individual, they matter a lot. Also Iniesta wouldnt be that effective outside Barca most probably. Very good, but not that good.

I gotta disagree...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I gotta disagree...

Yeah, Iniesta is the player that would fit most outside Barcelona because he has the ability to play in any system. His attributes are important in any team.

[Azpinator 2,325]

Since when did stats become more important than evrything else?

Oscar scored, gave an assist to Hazard, created a big chance for Schurrle to score and almost scored twice if not for a horrible finish.

[Rmpr 8,977]

That is not putting stats above anything else!

And please, dont quote me out of context again...

[Korea 734]

On the best day, David Silva is a superior number 10..... However, we haven't seen that since 2011-2012 season and the fact Silva plays mainly as a winger for City.....

[Azpinator 2,325]

That is not putting stats above anything else!

And please, dont quote me out of context again...

Yeah funny because @BlueLyon didn't say stats are above anything else and you just assumed that. I was showing you that I could easily assume that you contradicted yourself.

And please, you don't have the right to tell me what to do.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Yeah funny because @BlueLyon didn't say stats are above anything else and you just assumed that. I was showing you that I could easily assume that you contradicted yourself.

You made no sense at all by quoting something that isnt related to what was being discussed.

Also, how would I have contradicted myself? I posted things Oscar did against Norwich, in which two arent even stat related...LOL!

And he did meant that since Ozil and Mata had better stats they were better players!

And please, you don't have the right to tell me what to do.

I do have to right if the thing you are doing involves me.

[Azpinator 2,325]

You made no sense at all by quoting something that isnt related to what was being discussed.

Also, how would I have contradicted myself? I posted things Oscar did against Norwich, in which two arent even stat related...LOL!

And he did meant that since Ozil and Mata had better stats they were better players!

I do have to right if the thing you are doing involves me.

Mate, it may not look related to you but to a different person it might.

Not even stat-related? You were talking about goals, shots, assists and creating chances, how are some of these not stat-related?

I saw it that you cared about Oscar's stats in a league game when you wanted to defend him, BlueLyon obviously cares about stats as well but he did explain later that they "matter a lot" for individuals, so he didn't mean that they are the #1 thing to judge players on.

And man, it's a forum, I can quote and say stuff to anyone. I try my best not to offend but if the mods/admins see something wrong they would warn me. No hard feelings.

[Spike 12,049]

And man, it's a forum, I can quote and say stuff to anyone. I try my best not to offend but if the mods/admins see something wrong they would warn me. No hard feelings.

And then people also have the right to be offended by anything you say. Welcome to free speech.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Mate, it may not look related to you but to a different person it might.

Not even stat-related? You were talking about goals, shots, assists and creating chances, how are some of these not stat-related?

I saw it that you cared about Oscar's stats in a league game when you wanted to defend him, BlueLyon obviously cares about stats as well but he did explain later that they "matter a lot" for individuals, so he didn't mean that they are the #1 thing to judge players on.

Oscar stats? OMG, do you even know what statistics mean?

I posted things Oscar did in the game that I thought were relevant, something completely different than giving Oscar stats against Norwich!

I mentioned four things: a goal, an assist, a good pass for Schurrle and a great play with a poor finishing. That is just me telling Sheva the good creative plays I thought Oscar had in the game. When is that giving statistics to prove a point? It is not like I was arguying about completed passes, convertion ratio, shots on target, the amount of tackles, etc...

Anyways, this is Mata's thread and I wont prolongue myself with worthless off-topic discussions.

[Azpinator 2,325]

And then people also have the right to be offended by anything you say. Welcome to free speech.

Of course, but being offended doesn't give me the right to tell others what to do.

Oscar stats? OMG, do you even know what statistics mean?

No because I'm retarded and all.

I said they were stat-related, and that I thought you cared about his overall stats in that game.

Anyways, this is Mata's thread and I wont prolongue myself with worthless off-topic discussions.

But you're the one that brought Oscar to the discussion 2 pages ago.

[Rmpr 8,977]

But you're the one that brought Oscar to the discussion 2 pages ago.

Did you even bother to read my post? I was comparing Oscar's game against Norwich to Mata's, so I was obviously having an on-topic discussion! PATHETIC!

No because I'm retarded and all.

I am starting to think so...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Alright ladies, is there a point to all this? Let it go, please...