Juan Mata

[coolhead23 1,146]

It would be rather stupid on our part to let go of Mata in the place, you dont let your best players go else it sends out the wrong message to everyone. Imagine if we get someone who has the potential of replacing Oscar in the next 2 years, then we would have to sell off Oscar as well or Hazard for that matter ...

[didierforever 7,349]

how many of us expected mata to start the

1st game - 0. he was injured, unfit and had barely played in the pre-season

2nd game - he did start and did look in dire minutes of need.

3rd game - OT. away game at the home of the champions. mou set us up in a counter attacking strat, and we had better players than mata for the match, specially considering his form and fitness. a sub appearance would have sufficed but by the 70th minute we were not looking for a win, just a draw.

4th game - mou could have given mata a start but again the way he set us up was not on mata's strength. and it worked. i have no doubt that mata would have been a sub in the match but after rambo's red card, he would have been a waste.

so, i seriously dont see what people are crying about. we have a big squad with very different type of players. mou is using all the resources at his disposal as he deems correct. i have no doubt that mata will start almost every home game that we would be attacking and controlling the play. its not every day that u play the champions of england and champions of europe back to back. these fixtures came in at the wrong time otherwise there would not have been any speculation. i am pretty sure, mata is very much is jose's plans and dont expect him to go anywhere, anytime soon.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

It would be rather stupid on our part to let go of Mata in the place, you dont let your best players go else it sends out the wrong message to everyone. Imagine if we get someone who has the potential of replacing Oscar in the next 2 years, then we would have to sell off Oscar as well or Hazard for that matter ...

Yeah if we could sign Isco/Ozil...etc then Oscar can be sold. The same way if we sign Bale/Ronaldo Hazard can leave.If there is a better player available than our current players, then why not buy them?

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

If he leaves this season then there will be some serious unrest in the Chelsea camp. Jose please don't fuck this up.

[coolhead23 1,146]

Yeah if we could sign Isco/Ozil...etc then Oscar can be sold. The same way if we sign Bale/Ronaldo Hazard can leave.If there is a better player available than our current players, then why not buy them?

So your saying everytime there is a better player just go him and keep upsetting the balance/chemistry every now and then .... This is not FIFA13, this is real life ... it takes time to set up a team and very ease to break it ...

[Mouri_Matic 560]

So your saying everytime there is a better player just go him and keep upsetting the balance/chemistry every now and then .... This is not FIFA13, this is real life ... it takes time to set up a team and very ease to break it ...

Yeah I don't see why not. Yes it takes time but of course you would exchange your players for a better one? Are you saying for the sake of chem if Ronaldo was for sale and wanted to come here we should not sign him because Hazard might want to leave?

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,770]

If he leaves this season then there will be some serious unrest in the Chelsea camp. Jose please don't fuck this up.

Will there be?

I mean, lets not act like we have not sent true talent away before. Robben was swept away in the night before even getting a chance to say goodbye. Malouda, a hero during our double just 2 years earlier, was sent to Rot in the reserves as a guy like Benayoun got first team action a season after saying he didnt give a damn about our club.

This is simply business, and the players know that.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

So your saying everytime there is a better player just go him and keep upsetting the balance/chemistry every now and then .... This is not FIFA13, this is real life ... it takes time to set up a team and very ease to break it ...

No, but if you have a player you are not going to start regularly and another team is going to offer 35-40M for him you have to take it. It's up to Mourinho IMO and how he wants to use Mata. If he sees him as a fairly regular starter, then we should hold on to him. If he sees him as a squad player, then we should sell him.

[coolhead23 1,146]

Yeah I don't see why not. Yes it takes time but of course you would exchange your players for a better one? Are you saying for the sake of chem if Ronaldo was for sale and wanted to come here we should not sign him because Hazard might want to leave?

Would u go and sign a player for what 60-70m and let go off your best player who could match those heights?

If that was the case, City should have won the league title almost 3 times now because they have the best team on paper!

[didierforever 7,349]

Yeah if we could sign Isco/Ozil...etc then Oscar can be sold. The same way if we sign Bale/Ronaldo Hazard can leave.If there is a better player available than our current players, then why not buy them?

there is something called the soul of the club. and you dont just go out and sell that. mata was out PLAYER OF THE YEAR last season. he was our go to man, our fix-it guy, our everything. you just dont sell some1 just on a whim. what are the chances that the player we get would be as good as some1 like JUAN MATA. just 2 months ago, the fact of starting a game without mata had a chill crawling over our spine.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Will there be?

I mean, lets not act like we have not sent true talent away before. Robben was swept away in the night before even getting a chance to say goodbye. Malouda, a hero during our double just 2 years earlier, was sent to Rot in the reserves as a guy like Benayoun got first team action a season after saying he didnt give a damn about our club.

This is simply business, and the players know that.

And even Lampard had to convince so hard for a new deal, Drogba was sold because he was not gonna accept 1 year deal. While yes there are legends and sentimental around the board, the directors and Roman don't think so. This is business, not a family home where everyone stays forever. People need to accept that.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

there is something called the soul of the club. and you dont just go out and sell that. mata was out PLAYER OF THE YEAR last season. he was our go to man, our fix-it guy, our everything. you just dont sell some1 just on a whim. what are the chances that the player we get would be as good as some1 like JUAN MATA. just 2 months ago, the fact of starting a game without mata had a chill crawling over our spine.

Yeah soul... like when we let Drogba go, nearly let Lampard go before Jose had to convince him, nearly let Cole go before he accepts 1 year deal on £200k per week. Yeah that is soul for you. Wouldn't even be surprised if Terry is out next year and no contract renewal either.

[coolhead23 1,146]

No, but if you have a player you are not going to start regularly and another team is going to offer 35-40M for him you have to take it. It's up to Mourinho IMO and how he wants to use Mata. If he sees him as a fairly regular starter, then we should hold on to him. If he sees him as a squad player, then we should sell him.

U need 25 players to make a team and to make a great team u need 25 solid players ... Just because Mata is reduced to squad player, should he be sold off and what happens when Oscar is injured or has a bad patch?

[Mouri_Matic 560]

U need 25 players to make a team and to make a great team u need 25 solid players ... Just because Mata is reduced to squad player, should he be sold off and what happens when Oscar is injured or has a bad patch?

Then there are Hazard, Schurrle, Willian, Kevin who can all play there. Actually they are the reason we even have this discussion about Mata leaving.

[coolhead23 1,146]

Then there are Hazard, Schurrle, Willian, Kevin who can all play there. Actually they are the reason we even have this discussion about Mata leaving.

.... Thanks for your time!

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

U need 25 players to make a team and to make a great team u need 25 solid players ... Just because Mata is reduced to squad player, should he be sold off and what happens when Oscar is injured or has a bad patch?

No, you actually don't. You need about 14-15 regulars and maybe 3 or 4 other players who play fairly regularly. What happens if Oscar has a bad patch? Well, we have De Bruyne and Hazard who can play in the middle. Schurrle I am sure would be fine there as well.

[didierforever 7,349]

Yeah soul... like when we let Drogba go, nearly let Lampard go before Jose had to convince him, nearly let Cole go before he accepts 1 year deal on £200k per week. Yeah that is soul for you. Wouldn't even be surprised if Terry is out next year and no contract renewal either.

2 wrongs make a right??? NO.

we dint let DD go. it was mutual. DD knew he would not get a better farewell. his last kick off the ball winning us the CL. plus he was 34, time to move on. we wanted to play a new style of football. wanted a young team for possession football plus wanted to give torres a true shot to prove himself (which he failed at, if he had played well, none of us would be crying about the DD move)

cole got an extension easily. there was never any speculation of him going anywhere. it was just the normal media jazz that would want us to belive all the shit. contract negotiations take time and that was it.

plus why are we even comparing the mata situation to this. these were contract extensions to 30 odd year old players. (35 in lamps case). in mata's case, we want to sell our BEST PLAYER OF LAST 2 SEASONS, without giving him a chance to prove himself. that sends out a wrong message to the rest of the player.

[Laylabelle 9,305]

Selling our two seasons in a row player of the year..makes such sense......