Juan Mata

[Special Juan 27,458]

Whilst Mata has won POTY two years on the bounce has anyone thought about what Jose actually is looking for?

Right now Oscar is nigh on the perfect player playing the perfect role. He's scoring, creating and a constant menace to defences, not just this but his fitness levels are through the roof and his ability to actually track back and help out is sublime, that for me is exactly why he is starting ahead of Juan right now.

And please don't say to me "So you hate Mata" No, no I don't, he a tremendous talent so in that should we ignore the quality of performances by Oscar already this season? Not a chance, he's been nothing short of immense.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

May I ask who exactly is better than Torres, currently ?

If I remember correctly, Chelsea´s strikers scored ONE GOAL so far.

Certainly, I do not want to start a player based on his past. All I am asking, if Jose didn´t want to use Mata, why not sell him then ?

Luiz benched, KDB not playing, Mata´s benched, the strikers are useless...but Jose has got a new project ?

No one is much better than Torres, atm, but it seems Jose believes Eto'o ca become better if he is given a run of run of games.

We didn't sell mata because Jose thinks he can adapt to a new role on the wing and be vital for the team. Jose wants to play Oscar and Mata together if Mata can prove that is possible. Jose has explained what he wants publically and in more detail than we would have imagined.

seriously??? PAST?? so mata won his last POTY award and was our most influential player 10 years ago, right??

he has had 2 starts in the season out of which the 1st one was after he had just 45 minutes in the whole pre-season. he was not even physically fit, forget about being match-fit (i dont think he is match-fit even now).

mata is benched for very valid reasons, but to give the argument u have given here is like saying mata is a worthless and has been on a declining trajectory for sometime now.

No that's really NOT what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that you can't start Mata in our current system just because he was our best player in our old system last season. What Jose wants from that number ten role Oscar is doing way much better and thus is rightfully starting. When Mata shows he is capable of doing the job in our current system on the wing or in the center better than the other players he will start. Simple as.

[bushman 2,043]

Whilst Mata has won POTY two years on the bounce has anyone thought about what Jose actually is looking for?

Right now Oscar is nigh on the perfect player playing the perfect role. He's scoring, creating and a constant menace to defences, not just this but his fitness levels are through the roof and his ability to actually track back and help out is sublime, that for me is exactly why he is starting ahead of Juan right now.

And please don't say to me "So you hate Mata" No, no I don't, he a tremendous talent so in that should we ignore the quality of performances by Oscar already this season? Not a chance, he's been nothing short of immense.

I do not believe anyone here can say anything against Oscar. I too am happy to see him performing well. Of course, he is ahead of Mata now. Despite of it, should Jose just discard him like nobody ? Was he given a proper chance to shine again ? I do not think so.

If you could figure out Jose´s new project, please let me know about it.

[Spike 12,049]

Settle down lads.

[bushman 2,043]

No one is much better than Torres, atm, but it seems Jose believes Eto'o ca become better if he is given a run of run of games.

We didn't sell mata because Jose thinks he can adapt to a new role on the wing and be vital for the team. Jose wants to play Oscar and Mata together if Mata can prove that is possible. Jose has explained what he wants publically and in more detail than we would have imagined.

No that's really NOT what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that you can't start Mata in our current system just because he was our best player in our old system last season. What Jose wants from that number ten role Oscar is doing way much better and thus is rightfully starting. When Mata shows he is capable of doing the job in our current system on the wing or in the center better than the other players he will start. Simple as.

If Jose thinks Eto´o is the answer, then should we all believe in it ?

[Special Juan 27,458]

Settle down lads.

Sorry I don't understand.

[bushman 2,043]

Settle down lads.

What do you mean settle down ? Are we not chatting only ? What´s the problem ?

No insults here, no vulgarity...

[Spike 12,049]

Sorry I don't understand.

What do you mean settle down ? Are we not chatting only ? What´s the problem ?

No insults here, no vulgarity...

Yeah chatting for now. Things do escalate. It's pre-emptive.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

If Jose thinks Eto´o is the answer, then should we all believe in it ?

Well you don't have to, but it's not like we have Van Busten and Pele as the other options and Jose is the one that sees them most in training. On any account, he did say on Saturday that he still doesn't know who his best striker is so he is giving everyone chances to prove themselves.

[bushman 2,043]

Yeah chatting for now. Things do escalate. It's pre-emptive.

Are you a foreseer ? Wake up.

[edenhazard17 281]

Then, try other sites. Might be better for you ?

You don't get my point. Mirror will help.

[Spike 12,049]

Are you a foreseer ? Wake up.

Self-fufilling prophet.

[didierforever 7,349]

No that's really NOT what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that you can't start Mata in our current system just because he was our best player in our old system last season. What Jose wants from that number ten role Oscar is doing way much better and thus is rightfully starting. When Mata shows he is capable of doing the job in our current system on the wing or in the center better than the other players he will start. Simple as.

this is very different from You can't keep starting a player for what he has done in the past.

but do agree with your current post. even i was baffled by jose's decision to not have mata as a certain starter. but now i do get what he is doin. he is making a TEAM. he is giving us an IDENTITY. since 2010, we kinda lost our identity. we were playing games on the talent of the players rather than a game-play. now, everything's gonna change and the slate's being cleaned by jose of every player. each player fights for his place.

[Special Juan 27,458]

Yeah chatting for now. Things do escalate. It's pre-emptive.

I'm sorry but you cannot be like this, we are having civil debate, no mud slinging or anything.

You could step in when it's out of hand, but now? Come on man.

[bushman 2,043]

Well you don't have to, but it's not like we have Van Busten and Pele as the other options and Jose is the one that sees them most in training. On any account, he did say on Saturday that he still doesn't know who his best striker is so he is giving everyone chances to prove themselves.

3 games of Eto´o struggle, BA 20 minutes of.. Torres ? Who comes up on top, then ? The project is on...

[bushman 2,043]

Self-fufilling prophet.

Congratulation, no wonder they made you the mod here.

[bushman 2,043]

I'm sorry but you cannot be like this, we are having civil debate, no mud slinging or anything.

You could step in when it's out of hand, but now? Come on man.

A power trip ?

[Spike 12,049]

Well, fuck me sideways and call me Susan. People whinge that the staff don't do enough and I step in just to make sure a shit storm doesn't start and I'm treated in a condescending way.

Excuse me for trying to keep things calm before anything starts. I can't predict how a conversation will end up but with the track record in some of thes topics I'd have to be forgiven about taking a pre-emptive action to make sure people don't go nuts. In the future, I'll just switch back to holding my cock in my hands and hoping nothing happens.

All I said was 'settle down', Jesus titty-fucking Christ. Cut me some slack.