Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 So much bs here, did AVB and Di Matteo also build the team around Mata? because he didn't just excel under Rafa. Like i said already you cant even Oscar and Mata, attacking wise. The latter is more experienced and light years ahead.Immediately he gets the ball he only needs 2 seconds to know where he is going with it. There is a reason he creates so many chances. Only a matter of time before he gets back to his best and starts shutting bitches up - if not at Chelsea, then any club willing to pay 35m for him. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 So much bs here, did AVB and Di Matteo also build the team around Mata? because he didn't just excel under Rafa.Like i said already you cant even Oscar and Mata, attacking wise. The latter is more experienced and light years ahead.Immediately he gets the ball he only needs 2 seconds to know where he is going with it. There is a reason he creates so many chances. Only a matter of time before he gets back to his best and starts shutting bitches up - if not at Chelsea, then any club willing to pay 35m for him.RDM prefer Oscar in the middle and AVB scouted him to play cam for Tottenham.Also, I guarantee Mata will never replicate the stats he produce last season on any other big team.... Regarding chances created, did it occur to you that Hazard has been out of form this season and we swapped Mata for schurrle... You guys are making it a direct correlation that Mata out, Oscar in is only between those 2 players.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I remember reading how in Brazil people thought Ganso was going to be their CAM for the next +10 years and than Oscar took his place as well.... Maybe the brazilians would know better, but from what I remembered, they also reacted the same when Oscar took Ganso' place, saying he wasn't as creative as Ganso, etc...I also remembered people complaining but later oscar's presence brought the best out of neymar. But make no mistake mata >>>>>>>> Ganso so its a completely different ball game now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 RDM prefer Oscar in the middle and AVB scouted him to play cam for Tottenham.Also, I guarantee Mata will never replicate the stats he produce last season on any other big team.... Regarding chances created, did it occur to you that Hazard has been out of form this season and we swapped Mata for schurrle... You guys are making it a direct correlation that Mata out, Oscar in is only between those 2 players..rdm preferref oscar in the middle because he sucks on the wings... no other reason. this was proven when rafa played him the 2nd half of the season on the wings, people started calling him "over-rated"... that is the extent of how bad oscar was on the wings.u can guarantee??? put a straight swap for mata-rooney and let him play behind rvp and see the magic of football happen right in front of your eyes.are u actually saying that oscar is comparative to mata in terms of creativeness??? The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think Mata is ever gonna walk.His Oscar-esque performance at Swindon is ample proof in that matter. He just have to work on his work rate and this whole Mata v. Oscar situation could be good for both players.If it was any other year maybe but with the WC coming up and playing time hard enough to find with the Spanish squad..... Mata needs to be playing or he won't get called up by VDB. Another team will gladly find a place for him on the pitch on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 If it was any other year maybe but with the WC coming up and playing time hard enough to find with the Spanish squad..... Mata needs to be playing or he won't get called up by VDB. Another team will gladly find a place for him on the pitch on a regular basis. Also if he was playing for any other team than Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 If it was any other year maybe but with the WC coming up and playing time hard enough to find with the Spanish squad..... Mata needs to be playing or he won't get called up by VDB. Another team will gladly find a place for him on the pitch on a regular basis. Also if he was playing for any other team than Spain :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I agree, and bought him under the radar too. As good as mata is, oscar for me is clearly the better footballer in what is a team sport. Mata can never match the kind of performance oscar gave against juventus even if he score a double hatrick in one game. Hazard who i also rate more than mata will only be at that level if he performs at this level as he did at lille(already did vs bayern). Oscar is putting more consistent high level performance this season. He is really competitive. So you see oscar's performance vs Juve and hazard's vs bayern were incredible we've seen nothing of such from mata at the highest level. All oscar and hazard need to be better than mata is mere consistency, oscar seems to have found that so far and hazard will surely find he's under Mou and mata might still be excellent but not up to their level.hahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaahahahhahahaha... oh god!!! that cracked me up. u know what i live in a hostel, so i called in a couple of my friends (who by the way are united and arsenal fans) and told them to read this and they had a hearty laugh too... thanks for it dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 rdm preferref oscar in the middle because he sucks on the wings... no other reason. this was proven when rafa played him the 2nd half of the season on the wings, people started calling him "over-rated"... that is the extent of how bad oscar was on the wings.u can guarantee??? put a straight swap for mata-rooney and let him play behind rvp and see the magic of football happen right in front of your eyes.are u actually saying that oscar is comparative to mata in terms of creativeness???LOl. This is coming from the kid that said Oscar played with no heart a good chunk of last season... (It was you that criticized Oscar like no other, so don't say "people")Also, I dont think you know United has someone called Kagawa who played for BVB and is a better goalscorer than Mata and yet he barely gets runs.... United would make him play in the wings. Oscar is creative, however, when you focus a lot of your energy on both sides of the ball, it's hard to be sharp and creative (go ask hazard).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 LOl. This is coming from the kid that said Oscar played with no heart a good chunk of last season... (It was you that criticized Oscar like no other, so don't say "people")Also, I dont think you know United has someone called Kagawa who played for BVB and is a better goalscorer than Mata and yet he barely gets runs.... United would make him play in the wings. Oscar is creative, however, when you focus a lot of your energy on both sides of the ball, it's hard to be sharp and creative (go ask hazard).. and i still stand by it. look at his performances now and then and u can see a difference as clear as day and night. or do u want to tell me that within 2 months oscar has gone from "what the hell is he doing" to "should be played ahead of mata".HAHAHAHAHAHA... now kagawa is a better goalscorer than mata??? holy-shit... u should probably get off pes now... time to join the real world for once...oh...is it the same hazard that game bayern a run for their money despite being awesome both sides of the ball? right now, hazard is off form nothing more/nothing less. also i dont see people like muller, ribery having so much problem being creative despite working their asses off defensively. if u have the class, it will shine thru. right now oscar's creativity is notches below mata's. to even compare their creativity tells me exactly how much u know of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Definitely agree, but if this is the kind of chances Mourinho is going to give Mata (as he did with Kaka), I have a problem...I have been on the record Oscar is my preferred #10 (and no, it is not because he is Brazilian), but Mata sure can play and he deserves better than games against Swindon.So, for me, Jose must find a balance in keeping Oscar as our primary CAM and giving Mata enough opportunities to prove himself!Who would have thought we'd be saying this 4-5 months ago ? Honestly, Mourinho pisses me off sometimes !! I feel like the reason Juan played so poorly is because Jose deprived him of the freedom he had under RDM and Rafa. He had the freedom of the pitch under these managers... and we saw the results ! 19 goals and 35 assists... THATS WHAT HE BRINGS TO THE TABLE !! He looked out of sorts at Swindon. He did play one delicious pass in the first half but he just looked like he didnt really belong ! Whenever he tracked back in order to ''impress Mourinho'' it broke my heart ! He made quite a few niggly tackles and its all because that isnt his thing! Do you see Messi/Ozil/Iniesta tracking back all the time ? And are they made second choice to a player inferior to them even tho they can play together in the same team ?? Mou, FIX THIS !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 hahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaahahahhahahaha... oh god!!! that cracked me up. u know what i live in a hostel, so i called in a couple of my friends (who by the way are united and arsenal fans) and told them to read this and they had a hearty laugh too... thanks for it dude. You are welcome but that's not even funny yet you guys must be really bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 If you missed the match.. here's Juan Mata's performance NishC300 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 You are welcome but that's not even funny yet you guys must be really bored.yup, quite bored. no football today. got a day off from the institute too so nothing much to do. but your post made our day. thanks for the awesome humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Who would have thought we'd be saying this 4-5 months ago ? Honestly, Mourinho pisses me off sometimes !! I feel like the reason Juan played so poorly is because Jose deprived him of the freedom he had under RDM and Rafa. He had the freedom of the pitch under these managers... and we saw the results ! 19 goals and 35 assists... THATS WHAT HE BRINGS TO THE TABLE !! He looked out of sorts at Swindon. He did play one delicious pass in the first half but he just looked like he didnt really belong ! Whenever he tracked back in order to ''impress Mourinho'' it broke my heart ! He made quite a few niggly tackles and its all because that isnt his thing! Do you see Messi/Ozil/Iniesta tracking back all the time ? And are they made second choice to a player inferior to them even tho they can play together in the same team ?? Mou, FIX THIS !! I did, I posted in the unpopular opinions thread that Oscar would be Jose's preferred #10 and (at the time) I was laughed at!You should stop rooting for Mata and start rooting for Chelsea... nofacej and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Yeah we lost all those matches in the last 2 seasons because Mata couldn't track back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Lol at people who expect Mata to be master tackler all of sudden. Azpinator, xPetrCechx, OnePound and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Name them.Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Ozil, Robben, Ribery, Bale, Van Persie, Rooney, Aguero, Hazard, Neymar, Ibrahimovic, Falcao. 15 without any effort. Mostly attacking players. If you want more I can continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted September 26, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted September 26, 2013 Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Ozil, Robben, Ribery, Bale, Van Persie, Rooney, Aguero, Hazard, Neymar, Ibrahimovic, Falcao. 15 without any effort. Mostly attacking players. If you want more I can continue.You said he's not in the Top 50. So, name all those 50 players or more better than him.. Stats, Jype, didierforever and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I did, I posted in the unpopular opinions thread that Oscar would be Jose's preferred #10 and (at the time) I was laughed at!You should stop rooting for Mata and start rooting for Chelsea...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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