Romelu Lukaku

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

As a belgian, i would very much love to have Diego in our NT. What a non discussion tbh. Lukaku needs a LOT of work.

Wouldn't he be in the same position he is in Spain now?

We need a complete striker with his instinct for goals but with better technique (and attitude). Can't really think of who I would prefer if I could pick anyone.

I think for example Luc Nilis is watching every game from our current national team on television thinking: 'goddamn, if I had these guys to play with in stead of the donkeys I got in the mid-nineties, I would have made 40 goals.'

[Pacquiao 1,834]

have not i already shown you the stats of the exact number of matches that costa played as a winger. and infact shown you the number of matches that aguero played as a second striker were more than those numbers? you can go back to the costa thread to jog your memory.

whats worse is that i am pretty sure i have also given u the penalty stats and still aguero was way ahead.

and yet u keep coming back with the same old poor arguments. like ATM reaching the CL final. i am sorry, it was a lot on the team ATM had than costa which includes the manager too. ATM beat barca without costa who were there biggest test in CL knockout stages. players like villa, luis, koke were as important if not more to ATM's play. aguero has not been able to lead city anywhere cos of inapt managers who play with 2 strikers against barca at camp nou. it is the same aguero who scored hattrick against bayern munich to keep city in play or who even a week or 2 ago saved city.

kudos to costa on coming back from the injury. that shows his character, not his skill. be it any part of the play on football field and concering football (not kickboxing), aguero is better than costa.

Non Penalty goals in the last 4 seasons

Costa 76 goals in 149 games - 0.51 goals per game

Aguero 91 goals in 164 games - 0.55 goals per game

So as you can see Aguero has scored 15 more goals in 15 more games then Costa, (who has had a number of games on the wing in that period of time).

So as i said its even closer without penalties, so when you look at what each player has done for his teams and what he has achieved with them in the last 4 seasons, no doubt Costa comes out on top. So if it helps you sleep at night you can keep believing Costa isnt world class and isnt on Aguero's level it just shows how delusional you are.

[Tomo 21,733]

But you can't blame Aguero if Lescott, Demichaels and Kompany make basic defensive errors from time to time. You can't blame Aguero for Yaya Toure being lazy. You can't blame Aguero if the manager's tactics were wrong on the day. Not to mention Aguero gets injured in parts of the season. Even now, he's injured.

It's City's fault that they put themselves in that position. But without Aguero's goals, they wouldn't have won any of those league titles.

You can blame the manager, Pellegrini puts no effort in defending and it holds City back, give Mou or even Rafa Kompany, Managala and Otamensi with Fernandinho in front and our defensive record of 04/05 will be under threat.

That's why I didn't jump on the Mangala is a flop bandwagon because even Beckenbauer in his prime would look a shadow of his true self playing under Pellegrini or any so called football purist.

[jmarlow 458]

So let's see what Costa has done in the last 4 seasons.

At the age of 22 (the same age as Lukaku is now) Costa suffered a very serious knee injury, the type of injury that made players like Torres and Falcao come back as a shadow of what they used to be. After Costa recovered he was loaned to Rayo, no one expected much from him as he had just returned from a long lay off, he went on and scored 10 goals in 16 games to help save Rayo from Relegation, The following season he then goes back to Atletico and is asked to play on the wing or as a number 10 behind Falcao, (who was the best striker in the world at the time) and Costa goes on to score 20 goals that season without even playing as a striker, he also scored in every round of the Copa Del Rey including the final against Real Madrid, en route to lifting the trophy.

Then the following season in 2013/14 his impressive form gets rewarded and he gets his chance as Atletico's 1st choice striker, he goes on to score 36 goals! 27 in La Liga just 1 less then Lionel Messi, his goals and performances played a key role in guiding Atletico to the La Liga title, something Aguero couldn't do, he also scored 8 goals in the CL that season en route to the final, which Atletico probably would have won had Costa been fit. Then he moves to a new country in a new league in a new team and scores for fun once again, playing a key role in Chelsea's PL and CoC successes! That is an insane 4 seasons after such a bad injury! Not many players in world football can match what Costa has done in the last 4 seasons, only a world class player can come back from such a bad injury and do what Costa has done.

Since Costa returned from a serious knee injury

Costa 87 goals in 149 games - 0.58 goals per game

Aguero 107 goals in 164 games - 0.65 goals per game

so Aguero has scored 20 more goals in 15 more games, now factor in Costa didnt even play as a striker in one of those seasons, he had to overcome the type of injury that all but ends most players careers at the highest level, and then factor in the fact Aguero has done nothing in CL outside of the group stages. and then if you were to minus penalties scored i am sure it would be very similar stats between both players.

Sorry but when you look at what both have done for their teams in the last 4 seasons, you can see Costa's achievements have been far more impressive, and before you say Aguero won 2 PL titles for City, yes he did he won 2 PL titles by small margins in uncompetitive seasons, with 2 of the most exspensive squads ever assembed in the PL, so taking everything into consideration its clear for me Costa > Aguero.

Great post.

[didierforever 7,349]

Non Penalty goals in the last 4 seasons

Costa 76 goals in 149 games - 0.51 goals per game

Aguero 91 goals in 164 games - 0.55 goals per game

So as you can see Aguero has scored 15 more goals in 15 more games then Costa, (who has had a number of games on the wing in that period of time).

So as i said its even closer without penalties, so when you look at what each player has done for his teams and what he has achieved with them in the last 4 seasons, no doubt Costa comes out on top. So if it helps you sleep at night you can keep believing Costa isnt world class and isnt on Aguero's level it just shows how delusional you are.

since i am totally bored off your SAME arguments, i honestly wont even try to answer it with anything new. i will simply copy paste what i had already told you.

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now now, let me get this straight.

you used a dubious "goal/game" stat to somehow show that costa is world class and u want me to use logic. okay, sure!!!

anyways,

just by stats, costa has a 100minute/goal+assist ratio compared to 78 of aguero. lukaku has 105 and chicha has 99.

all the stats, show how exactly aguero is superior to costa in every thing.

also, let me get the latter part of your argument straight. just cos man city underperforms in the CL, means aguero is shit?

so before the last season when suarez was in liverpool and pool were not even in CL, means suarez was not world class? how are you extrapolating pelegrini's shit tactics of playing 4-4-2 at camp nou as aguero's limitation?

so costa is the only player to recover from an injury? with that "logic" aguero is god, cos he keeps getting injured but comes back like nothing has been missed and start banging them in for fun.

also, aguero did not shift to a new league, new team and blah blah blah in 11/12 which are also included in your stats? if i remember correctly city too won the PL that season adn aguero was a massive player for them.

lastly, 2 people have said the same thing about costa's position. aguero has played 72 appearance "behind dzeko/tevez/balo". (http://www.whoscored...ry/Sergio-Agero)

so there is not much difference.

also, lets look at their overall play. costa is a "big" guy yet, his hold up play and ball shielding is average at best. look at yesterday to see what i am talking about. aguero's ball shielding is barely second to any striker in the world. his on the ball strength makes it a massive deal for the defenders to even get the ball off him. despite being a "big" guy, costa's aerial prowess is downright poor. lets not even compare aguero and costa's "dribbling" and "link up play". what is left is goal scoring which costa is great in as is aguero. but overall play wise, no where near.

simply said, given an option between the 2 to lead your team (you being the manager), i am sure majority of the people would take aguero in a heartbeat compared to costa.

ps - aguero has 16 goals by penalties since 11/12, costa has 13 (http://www.transferm...&wettbewerb_id=) (http://www.transfermarkt.com/diego-costa/elfmetertore/spieler/44779).

so another dud argument."

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/18470-19-diego-costa/?p=1154251

so yeah, keep up the delusional work!!!

[Pacquiao 1,834]

since i am totally bored off your SAME arguments, i honestly wont even try to answer it with anything new. i will simply copy paste what i had already told you.

so it looks like you have been owned again then.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Oh my god you two...[emoji29]

[didierforever 7,349]

so it looks like you have been owned again then.

hahahahhahaha... yes... i could see exactly how!!!

delusions of grandeur.. or like someone else said.. troll!!!

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Look I was all for Rom being sold. That being said anyone that believes a word that Mourinho says is a simpleton. Mourinho is a degenerate liar and a sociopath. Sad that there are so many cult followers of such a despicable person. I guess you needed a new cult figure once Jimmy Saville got caught ...

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Look I was all for Rom being sold. That being said anyone that believes a word that Mourinho says is a simpleton. Mourinho is a degenerate liar and a sociopath. Sad that there are so many cult followers of such a despicable person. I guess you needed a new cult figure once Jimmy Saville got caught ...

LOL, take your ignorance outta here bruh.

As for the rest of that post.. There's no point in going around this circle again. People believe what they want, facts generally speak for themselves. We got a great price for him, it's been put on the record and seen in real life events that he wanted to go on loan initially to Everton when we were facing our own striker crisis and yeah, it is what it is. Like players aren't liars either?

[Stingray 9,441]

Look I was all for Rom being sold. That being said anyone that believes a word that Mourinho says is a simpleton. Mourinho is a degenerate liar and a sociopath. Sad that there are so many cult followers of such a despicable person. I guess you needed a new cult figure once Jimmy Saville got caught ...

Psychopath, sociopath does criminal stuff. Just saying [emoji6][emoji6]

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Look I was all for Rom being sold. That being said anyone that believes a word that Mourinho says is a simpleton. Mourinho is a degenerate liar and a sociopath. Sad that there are so many cult followers of such a despicable person. I guess you needed a new cult figure once Jimmy Saville got caught ...

This is why some forum members have some bias against belgian users....just saying...

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

This is why some forum members have some bias against belgian users....just saying...

I wouldn't state it like the guy above. I would just say I think Mourinho is on an arrogant path of self destruction that might severely affect this club for several years to come. He's alienating his best player by far (again btw, bench him for too long and he's gone. There will be more takers for Hazard than for Mata) and he's only thinking of defending while his defense is leaking like never before. He's not able to dominate a single game while he has all the player assets needed to do so against most teams. He needs to GTFO; he's become either incompetent or insane.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

I wouldn't state it like the guy above. I would just say I think Mourinho is on an arrogant path of self destruction that might severely affect this club for several years to come. He's alienating his best player by far (again btw, bench him for too long and he's gone. There will be more takers for Hazard than for Mata) and he's only thinking of defending while his defense is leaking like never before. He's not able to dominate a single game while he has all the player assets needed to do so against most teams. He needs to GTFO; he's become either incompetent or insane.

Well, the way he stated it it's exactly why there's that bias, (like you've done sometimes). As in "it ain't the first time i read such a disrespectful and ignorant comment"

But for the first time i might agree with you on the other part of your message, i didn't like the comments he made about Hazard, i didn't like his treatment of Matic, and mind you, those two players wee vital for us last season, not to mention that the goals we're leaking aren't Hazard fault. The two goals today were lucky and we created jack shit. He should be able to focus on defensive tactics while leaving on the pitch our attacking inputs.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Well, the way he stated it it's exactly why there's that bias, (like you've done sometimes). As in "it ain't the first time i read such a disrespectful and ignorant comment"

But for the first time i might agree with you on the other part of your message, i didn't like the comments he made about Hazard, i didn't like his treatment of Matic, and mind you, those two players wee vital for us last season, not to mention that the goals we're leaking aren't Hazard fault. The two goals today were lucky and we created jack shit. He should be able to focus on defensive tactics while leaving on the pitch our attacking inputs.

I know, the guy seems completely delusional this season. He's not making the changes where needed and he still thinks the equator runs through his crack.

If he keeps it up like this, they'll soon start calling him the "special" one, like parents sometimes call their mentally challenged children "special".

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

I know, the guy seems completely delusional this season. He's not making the changes where needed and he still thinks the equator runs through his crack.

If he keeps it up like this, they'll soon start calling him the "special" one, like parents sometimes call their mentally challenged children "special".

Yeah...talking about the way "you state" things....

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Yeah...talking about the way "you state" things....

Well, I could have put it a little dryer, but I feel this need to entertain. ;-)

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Psychopath, sociopath does criminal stuff. Just saying [emoji6][emoji6]

Not true ...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/digital-leaders/201309/are-you-working-sociopath

Sounds a lot like Jose to me.