🇧🇪 Romelu Lukaku

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

On 22/01/2023 at 05:29, DDA said:

Do we still own this Donkey.... 

 

Got to try and sell him for something, even if it's peanuts.... at least we can put them towards the Felix deal at the end of the season.  

 

Lukaku deal must be one of the worst ever. Thank fuck it apparently does not count into our ffp and at least the transfer fee is erased from our books wrt the new owners

We should stop coutingin Felix as a permanent deal for next season tho. He is almost guaranteed to fail, as I delineated in the transfer thread. Also with Nkunku we get a similar player. Wit the new signings we have more thane nough cover for the front 3 positions so I strongly doubt we will sign him. He is nothing but a quick fix.

[Vegetable 830]

On 22/01/2023 at 05:53, NikkiCFC said:

Even tho he was not the answer we never upgraded on Abraham from 19/20 season

I wouldn't say Abraham was very reliable striker either, hence he's gone.

And about Laka - well, it was a gamble, as everyone, even here, knew his form is highly sinusoidal and apparently Marina lost the gamble - he went straight to bottom after coming here.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

15 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

I wouldn't say Abraham was very reliable striker either, hence he's gone.

And about Laka - well, it was a gamble, as everyone, even here, knew his form is highly sinusoidal and apparently Marina lost the gamble - he went straight to bottom after coming here.

Two things: -

• Every player's form goes up and down and, just like a sine curve, most of the time it is neither at the top of its range, nor at the bottom. In my opinion, the problem with Rom is that only his very best form is acceptable and, since he's hardly ever there, he was never going to be the answer for Chelsea.
• Marina organised the deal but she did not loose the gamble. Whoever made the decision that Rom was the player we should sign is the person who lost the gamble. That person was not Marina. No matter how many times people say or imply that, it will never be true.

Edited January 23, 2023 by OhForAGreavsie

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

Barella showed some frustration with Lukaku play and Romelu got angry. 

[Fernando 6,585]

I wonder if Conte will want him. 

Obviously we won't get much money for him. 

I think if we can get 40 million we should take it. 

Without a doubt the worst transfer every in the history of Chelsea.

[Mattill 16]

27 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Without a doubt the worst transfer every in the history of Chelsea.

Worst transfer ever in PL history.

For 3 times.

[Mário César 1,257]

i dont know what will do with him 

[Vesper 30,175]

2 hours ago, Mário César said:

i dont know what will do with him 

Weep.

[Hashishi 148]

These figures are from a Google search and in euros.

113m transfer fee (over five years becomes 22.6m) + 12m yearly = 34.6m in amortisation yearly.

If we sell this summer, his transfer fee crashes in for another 90.4m. I think he goes on another loan with an option to loan with option to buy. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

5 hours ago, Hashishi said:

These figures are from a Google search and in euros.

113m transfer fee (over five years becomes 22.6m) + 12m yearly = 34.6m in amortisation yearly.

If we sell this summer, his transfer fee crashes in for another 90.4m. I think he goes on another loan with an option to loan with option to buy. 

We could time the sale so it moves into the following FFP season at a cost of 67.8 but it's still the same problem.

[Hashishi 148]

1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

We could time the sale so it moves into the following FFP season at a cost of 67.8 but it's still the same problem.

Exactly. The same problem. Noone wants to pay 60 70m for our dregs. Which scares me about the new signings as they are all on long ass contracts. 

[Blue Armour 4,439]

On 23/01/2023 at 05:13, Vegetable said:

I wouldn't say Abraham was very reliable striker either, hence he's gone.

And about Laka - well, it was a gamble, as everyone, even here, knew his form is highly sinusoidal and apparently Marina lost the gamble - he went straight to bottom after coming here.

It's still remarkable how horrible he has become after 6 months here. Hasn't looked the same even after going back to Inter.

Never fancied him even before he arrived, but the decline is significant. It's terrible because he won't be in demand.

[robsblubot 3,595]

1 hour ago, Blue Armour said:

It's still remarkable how horrible he has become after 6 months here. Hasn't looked the same even after going back to Inter.

Never fancied him even before he arrived, but the decline is significant. It's terrible because he won't be in demand.

I don't know... he looked very similar to United days for us as he does now. That Inter run was the exception. 

Edited February 15, 2023 by robsblubot

[Fernando 6,585]

12 hours ago, robsblubot said:

I don't know... he looked very similar to United days for us as he does now. That Inter run was the exception. 

Because of Conte, remember Conte made Moses look amazing. 

I hope Conte desires to get him because that is our only hope....unless Atletico wants to take a stab at him. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

If Conte stays at Spurs why would he sign him when he has Kane 🤣

[Vesper 30,175]

22 hours ago, Hashishi said:

Exactly. The same problem. Noone wants to pay 60 70m for our dregs. Which scares me about the new signings as they are all on long ass contracts. 

well, we all have to face the fact that it is a possibility that 2022 destroyed as a viable top 10 club in the world for perhaps a decade

IF most off the hugely expensive signings go tits up and we also regularly miss out on European football and then FFP crushes us (we will not have a new stadium unto 2030 at the earliest, so no way for that to bail us out)

we are well fucked

NOT saying that is where we are headed, BUT it is a deffo possibility

Edited February 15, 2023 by Vesper

[Vegetable 830]

Let's get Conte back here, bam, several problems solved at once 😆

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

(we will not have a new stadium unto 2030 at the earliest, so no way for that to bail us out)

Well, the stadium is billions and with the cost-of-living crisis and process of making us midtable team there's no guarantee increased capacity means increased revenue in 10 years horizon. Who knows, it would be nice to have it, but maybe not investing into building it will not turn out as bad as it seems. 

Edited February 15, 2023 by Vegetable

[Vesper 30,175]

6 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Let's get Conte back here, bam, several problems solved at once 😆

Well, the stadium is billions and with the cost-of-living crisis and process of making us midtable team there's no guarantee increased capacity means increased revenue in 10 years horizon. Who knows, it would be nice to have it, but maybe not investing into building it will not turn out as bad as it seems. 

it would be a disaster to say fuck it, we stick with the old stadium

you do realise that CapEx for our physical plant does NOT count against FFP?

we will be short-changed (via not having a new stadium for revenue) for 500 plus million quid (at a minimum, could be far more) in potential new revenue over a 10 year period

plus it hurts recruiting

 

[Vegetable 830]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

you do realise that CapEx for our physical plant does NOT count against FFP?

 

Basically, given it's a Chelsea thing I feel a lot of things can go very wrong with it and uncertain future. 

It still counts towards Clearlake and Boehly's liquidity, given he is throwing dough on several clubs at once and our owners companies are in the industry of making money from shifting money. But you're right of course, stadium is an issue (one of many, unfortunately) and we missed a window when it should have been addressed.

[Tomo 21,751]

On 15/02/2023 at 04:45, Blue Armour said:

It's still remarkable how horrible he has become after 6 months here. Hasn't looked the same even after going back to Inter.

Never fancied him even before he arrived, but the decline is significant. It's terrible because he won't be in demand.

I don't even think he's declined, he's the exact same player he's always been.

Only reason it's being so emphasised now is with us and back at Inter he's being asked to play in possesion based systems, which only make his already clear and obvious shortcomings stand out even more.