English Freak 456 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Although Valdez is decent, he's not world class in my eyes. Barca might be the only exception to this rule. To be fair, any solid keeper would look good playing for Barcelona.Valdes is decent...but if he was playing for a weaker club with no world-class players, would he be capable of making constant saves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I don't see a reason why Cech couldn't go on for 10 more years. He's that good. Injury can happen to Courtois, just like it can happen to Petr.I'm not worried at all, even if he goes to Barca we can cash in and go for Begovic who is one of the best in the best league in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 To be fair, any solid keeper would look good playing for Barcelona.Valdes is decent...but if he was playing for a weaker club with no world-class players, would he be capable of making constant saves?If...?That´s why Barca wants Courtois, next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 To be fair, any solid keeper would look good playing for Barcelona.Valdes is decent...but if he was playing for a weaker club with no world-class players, would he be capable of making constant saves?This I disagree....Whoever becomes Barca number1, will have to live with being the least heralded player in the media's eyes and have all the blame placed on their shoulders for defensive errors. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbe Vh 2 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Although Valdez is decent, he's not world class in my eyes. Barca might be the only exception to this rule. Valdes is the best keeper for barcelona, because he is so quick of his line and his distribution is great. He also stopped with the blundering from a couple of years ago. As for Courtois, I think he will probably stay in spain, since he is been living there for 3 years now. He also has a girlfriend there and thats a big incentive to stay put probably. Real shame for CFC tho zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 This I disagree....Whoever becomes Barca number1, will have to live with being the least heralded player in the media's eyes and have all the blame placed on their shoulders for defensive errors. AGREE and he will have the problem of keeping a high level of concentration for long periods of inactivity .. not as easy as it sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Can't see why so many people are so eager to move Cech out. He's just 31. That's a great football age for a keeper and the way I see it he has at least 5 more years at the very top level and why not even more - look at what Van der Sar did in United.Not underestimating Courtois, he's a great young keeper, but I don't expect our GK situation to change anytime soon. By loaning him every year his stock keeps rising and and we should cash in on him at some point IMO. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Selling him would be dumbest thing in world. We finaly bought good talent who filled potential. But considering our situation, we might need to sell. There are many quality gks now like ter stegen. But I have some feeling that Courtois might be Messi among goalkeepers, next legendary GK. Too soon, but whoever we sell turns to be even better (Danny, Johnson,...) so I think Courtois will be no exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Can't see why so many people are so eager to move Cech out. He's just 31. That's a great football age for a keeper and the way I see it he has at least 5 more years at the very top level and why not even more - look at what Van der Sar did in United.Not underestimating Courtois, he's a great young keeper, but I don't expect our GK situation to change anytime soon. By loaning him every year his stock keeps rising and and we should cash in on him at some point IMO.He only got two years left on his contract next summer, we won't get full price for him. Atm Cech is only marginally better than Courtois. When Cech has 5 years to give, Courtois has 15. No difficult choice then. Thing is rather Courtois seems not very inclined to come back to us. Real shame he will be the best goalie in the world within the next two years. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Looking at Belgium's results in the last qualifying fail for the EC, the difference Courtois makes becomes very clear. Before we had Mignolet (who actually never disappointed as well) we didn't have a first choice goalkeeper. I remember a 4-4 against Austria (ffs...) where we had the match won until the very last minute, before the goalie of the day (Logan Bailley) made one of his many errors of the evening. That match cost us a spot in the barrage matches. Wouldn't have happened with him in goal. Even now, with the team much better, he made some match-winning saves...The fact Mignolet is now playing for Liverpool and doing quite a decent job is not even an issue in Belgium. Courtois' spot seems to be secured until he decides to quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 As I already said, Belgium fans needn't worry. Even if he doesn't end up at Chelsea he'll easily find another good club who will make him first-choice goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Can't see why so many people are so eager to move Cech out. He's just 31. That's a great football age for a keeper and the way I see it he has at least 5 more years at the very top level and why not even more - look at what Van der Sar did in United.Not underestimating Courtois, he's a great young keeper, but I don't expect our GK situation to change anytime soon. By loaning him every year his stock keeps rising and and we should cash in on him at some point IMO.Because some people are thinking pragmatically. It's very rare to move from one world-class keeper to another and we have the opportunity to do so. Yes Cech could go on for another 10 years but you have to look at what is likely to happen, not what might happen.Courtois is likely to stay fit and healthy for 15 years whilst Cech isn't. Courtois can't be loaned out forever and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he simply runs his contract down and leaves for nothing - it's unlikely though. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Cech at his age cannot go on for another 10 years. He will slow down, soon. His reflexes won´t be as good as these days.It´s very simple for some of us.Courtois is Chelsea´s future. Sovieticus and English Freak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Because some people are thinking pragmatically. It's very rare to move from one world-class keeper to another and we have the opportunity to do so. Yes Cech could go on for another 10 years but you have to look at what is likely to happen, not what might happen.Courtois is likely to stay fit and healthy for 15 years whilst Cech isn't. Courtois can't be loaned out forever and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he simply runs his contract down and leaves for nothing - it's unlikely though.I just get the feeling that Courtois will be leaving at the end of this season.He's not going to agree to another loan spell...when he could be the #1 GK at any top european club (excluding Bayern, Juventus)As for Cech, I don't see him being sold. He's a fan favourite and alongside JT, he's the backbone of our team.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris 0 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Chelsea saw Courtois as a big talent a couple of years ago who would still need development. The problem is, that he is developping faster then most of us expected. The first signs already came in early as on 29/12/2011 he claimed he jumped 30cm higher and he is very stress ressistant : ( http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/voetbal/buitenland/Engeland/1.1185969 ) .From 2011 until today he has won team and individual prices and became the nr of Belgium being in competition with Mignolet. (1x Europa League, 1x Copa Del Rey , 1x Super Cup, 1x Zamora ). Last year, Atletico was third in the spanish league, the highest position since 1994-1995 (I did not look up extra data).Pretty strong credentials to make him number 1. Unless you have Cech. Who has won from 2011 1x Europa League, 1x FA, 1x Champions League, ...I would opt for another year (or 2) of Cech as he is still at his prime, has the confidence of José, supporters, .. . But then of course, what to do with courtois? This should be his last year at Atletico, they are gunning for the championship, playing well in CL, so to perform even better next year would be a half miracle. Apart from the league games against Barcelona and Madrid, there are not enough challengers in the Spanish division.My first solution that comes in mind (might not be the best one), is to loan him to Everton. They should end up playing european football and could use reinforcement at the GK position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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