Badboy 1,526 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I have come to the realization that he is basically an apprentice. He's learning on the job and its damaging us, i also thought it was the player and to a certain extent I still do. He's making school boy errors like the high line which cost us so many goals, he is also trying to play a brand of football without the players who are needed. He's tactical errors and I don't want Roman giving him 100 million in the summer now, the guy needs to work at another club until he's at least in his 40's. He's wayyyyy to young and inexperienced to be managing a club this size in this quick minor detail league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I love the fact that this thread exists . Top bloke eldo, top bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanMKD 41 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I'm quite sure that AVB will surely stay till summer at least because IMO Abramovich finally understood that with changing managers so often won't bring us trophies. We're in the middle of a shit period, but things will get better. If we sack AVB now, things wont get better. I'm finding this as a transitional year, a period of transition, and i believe that the summer will be a period when AVB(with his 1 year experience at Chelsea) will surely know what players he has to sign(we must not forget that one of the reasons we didn't buy anyone this winter period was because most of the players were cup-tied for the UCL)That said, i have support for AVB, although i must say that 2 things that really are pissing me off :1) The non-sense subs that AVB has made especially lately2) In this transitional year, called by many including AVB, we surely need to play younger players more.So, i think you have got my point.KTBFFH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 After today I really don't know anymore.. Im tired of us never giving our managers enough time to make a difference and it's the truth that we soon need to make a long term decision for the future. That being said there are positives and negatives with our current manager which we must be taken into consideration..........The board has got alot of thinking to do and all we can do is pray and hope they get it right this time.Then you will be the most hopeless person in this planet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I looked at our stating 11 and compared it to those WORTHLESS SPUDS ,,,and on form I couldnt find any of our team that wouldgot into theirs.I would say JT.. maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I would say JT.. maybe.Also Mata over VDV, but ye I get your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I would say JT.. maybe.I don't think JT started the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 At the least the man is taking responsibility:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgluGDHNLmg&feature=g-all-u&context=G2ad3409FAAAAAAAABAAIts right for him to take the blame in front of the media, but I hope he comes down with an iron fist on the real culprits in the dressing room.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 This might sound hpocrytical of me, infact it's very hypocrytical, but it's just been on my mind all night, we should show AVB full support, we need to highlight he's young, premier league is one of a kind, where serie a and la liga are similar, AVB was going to have it hard, he took the challenge, he's got a punishment. But i want my team to do well, so even though i think it's best to go, i really hope he's good enough and he's not the shit manager i see that he is, anyway i'm going to try and show some support for him over the forum, not that it means anything but just to brighten things up. I want him to do well and i'm sure everyone else does, and i know it's very hypocrytical because i pretty much made the thread, only thing is i think i'm hanging onto my faith too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 We're starting to sound like the Arsenal supporters at the start of the season. If AVB gets sacked, no one will want to take his job.I think Mourinho wouldn't mind coming back, it would be a proper challenge for him. Other coaches.. only for big fat bucks and a wee bit of masochism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Sackwild 0 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The primary job of a manager is to motivate and come up with appropriate tactics. AVB is not up to it in either of these roles. Maybe in 10 years time - but right now he's far too experienced. Bring back Hiddinck (or even bring in Capello) for rest of season and bring Jose home in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The primary job of a manager is to motivate and come up with appropriate tactics. AVB is not up to it in either of these roles. Maybe in 10 years time - but right now he's far too experienced. Bring back Hiddinck (or even bring in Capello) for rest of season and bring Jose home in the summer.First off welcome to the forum.And yes i agree, i just don't think he's a good manager, he's shown no signs, he also puts too much faith into things, it's logic not to play highline against Arsenal when we have slow players at the back, but he did it anyway... no good manager would of done that, i highly doubt it, but AVB did, however i'll admit i said put Alex at the back and i probably would of made the same mistake as AVB. But AVB has made stupid decisions all season, even his subs, i just don't think he's up for it, i think Porto was a one off, he is a quality manager he would of showed signs of it, however he hasn't, he's shown how much of an idiot he is and makes no sense most of the time, and these players are playing worse than Carlo's last season, now that's saying something...i hope i'm wrong, i want him to be a great manager, i want a long term manager, sick of switching managers, but i think we are going to have to do it, by the looks of it he doesn't look quite up to it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Sackwild 0 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Sorry AVB - too early in your career. It hasn't worked. It's like Johnny Hollins all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The problem is that he's just as stubborn as the yid Roman. I can see it now; the new Chelsea coach: Sven Goran "how much will you pay me" Eriksson. Wouldn't that be something.Leave it out pal. Rather uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I'm one too, but I get what you are saying. It wasn't meant as an insult, but could easily have been interpreted as one. I wouldn't want to be the Luis Suarez of these forums. Lol. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The primary job of a manager is to motivate and come up with appropriate tactics. AVB is not up to it in either of these roles. Maybe in 10 years time - but right now he's far too experienced. Bring back Hiddinck (or even bring in Capello) for rest of season and bring Jose home in the summer.Interesting take.So the manager has no say on transfer cause the club does all the buying and he has to work with that???Well I remember a certain Mr. Mourinho that could not motivate and bring the best out of a super star like Sheva.....Sorry but I don't buy that. Mourinho left Chelsea because of that exact reason. The club wants to buy their own player and don't let the coach do their own thing.Bringing all these managers won't change squat if the club continues with their policies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 You guys need to realize that sacking him now is pointless and ridiculous, give him till the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 You guys need to realize that sacking him now is pointless and ridiculous, give him till the end of the seasonBut then we can get a better manager in, Henrique looks like he's up for the job, i actually hope he's a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Oh Gosh! Another AVB thread ...I know AVB has not able to live up to the expectations that everyone has but then how is sacking him a solution to everything. As fans we need to understand that we support the club on the whole and sacking him, getting another manager with his team of support staff will have nothing but financial implications for a club which has already made quite a loss. I know shedding out a few million pounds for Roman is not a big deal (I m sure he would keep letting out those pounds for Chelsea) but then it is high time that we dont keep depending on Roman for anything and everything. With the fair play coming, we need to get our finances right as well.Secondly and importantly, sacking coaches/managers season after season means there is no stability at the club and among the players. The players would always be confident that we would have someone else coming the next season. Stability is the key for any top club and unfortunately that is something missing at ours. I know that AVB has been adamant, one dimensional and at times i really wish that i could punch him on his face for his baffling decisions but as a fan i need to look at the bigger picture and support him as the manager of this club for stability. I hope and pray that whatever is the outcome of this season, AVB is there atleast till the end of his contract. It is not about believing in him at this point of time but believing in the club that we all love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Just a thought but does anyone think that AVB is maybe just a flash in the pan? Yes, he did very well with Porto last season and won the treble with them but you get managers who achieved a lot in their first full season in charge of a club and then go floundering in the next. Not saying this on hindsight but I was never 100% supportive of his appointment mainly because he's still young and pretty much inexperience. Would have preferred him to stayed at Porto, seeing how he deals with the expectation level and the Champions League, against the top teams and top managers. Right now, he just leaves more questions than answers every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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