Stamford Bridge Thread

[eldo 868]

And what if in 40 years time in a big new 60k seater stadium in battersea by the thames we got a new owner, say some americans akin to gillet and hicks, who purchase the club on leveraged debt totalling 500m for example but all the time accruing interest, they then start to make abysmal decisions like interfering with team selection and over spending beyond there means, we start losing ground in the league and drop out of the champions league spots (current liverpool pattern) for a few years, a few years without the CL revenue hits the club in the pocket and they cant afford to keep up with debt repayments and so need to sell a few players for money to service the debt which turns into a vicious cycle of selling better players and replacing with lesser quality players, this continues for a couple more years by which time it has taking its toll, we are considered a mid table club now.

The club have a terrible start to the season, morale is at an all time low, the manager gets the chop 12 games in only to be replaced with someone just as unable to get the players to play above their level, and the club "too big to go down" gets relegated by the end of the season, following the drop our revenues flatline even with the parachute payments (if they still exist) the club default on the loans, problem is a championship club with premiership expenditure isnt worth alot of money anymore say circa 100m max with debts of say 550m and a playing squad worth another 100m, leaves a short fall for the banks on their original loan of circa 350m.

Now where can the club raise the 350m needed to starve off the threat of liquidation? same way the mears did in the late 70s, and im sure if the owner whos family had owned the club for 75 years from its inception can sell the ground then a couple of hypothetical yanks up to their eyes in debt would, we would probably get a 10 year lease (minimum) back option in the deal but ultimately would find ourselves right back at the same situation as we were in with calibra/marler estates battle.

Of course if the cpo was transfered onto any new ground in exchange for the bridges freehold said hypothetical situation couldnt happen, this isnt about what happens to the club now and in 10 years time, its also about what happens to it past romans and ours lifetimes.

Why should we give the new stadium to 15k? They could do the sam as those Yanks.

The easiest thing to do is, to declare that the stadium and the club belong together.

Do you see other fans asking the same question you did? No.

[strong centreback 157]

Why should we give the new stadium to 15k? They could do the sam as those Yanks.

The easiest thing to do is, to declare that the stadium and the club belong together.

Do you see other fans asking the same question you did? No.

You obviously dont understand what it is the cpo have power over, they literally only have the power to stop the club from having the ground sold out from under them by unscrupulous owners, they have no powers to sell the ground without chelsea fc agreeing to it as well, they also have to lease back the stadia automatically each time the 199 year lease at a cost of £1 an annum runs out, in laymans terms the cpo cant do anything without the club also agreeing to it and vice versa, its basically a water tight fail safe to insure the club never goes throught the legal battle of the eighties again.

Now whether or not you agree if its needed anymore is irreverent, it might be needed in the future as who knows what that brings, that is the point sncpo are making.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Do you have a fobia of wealthy people?

You mean phobia ? A fear of wealthy people ? No. not at all, quite wealthy myself. Why do you ?

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

when Roman came in we were close to bankruptcy ,,talk of fire sales of our best players ,,Trevor Birch was brought in because he was a Bankruptcy

Lawyer..

Birch lubricated the deal with Abramovich, the debts were written off, and he moved on to Leeds. Abramovich could see a jewel though, and qualification to the CL that year was the catalyst....

[eldo 868]

You obviously dont understand what it is the cpo have power over, they literally only have the power to stop the club from having the ground sold out from under them by unscrupulous owners, they have no powers to sell the ground without chelsea fc agreeing to it as well, they also have to lease back the stadia automatically each time the 199 year lease at a cost of £1 an annum runs out, in laymans terms the cpo cant do anything without the club also agreeing to it and vice versa, its basically a water tight fail safe to insure the club never goes throught the legal battle of the eighties again.

Now whether or not you agree if its needed anymore is irreverent, it might be needed in the future as who knows what that brings, that is the point sncpo are making.

Like you said, you never know what future brings.

I just don't like the idea of club being dependent on CPO when/if we move to another ground. If CPO had 50k or more members then that would be quite different.

[strong centreback 157]

Like you said, you never know what future brings.

I just don't like the idea of club being dependent on CPO when/if we move to another ground. If CPO had 50k or more members then that would be quite different.

That was the original idea behind the cpo, its just that it never got to the level of members first thought was possible by bates, im not sure what is wrong with 15k people who are majority dyed in the wool chelsea fans having the ultimate say on whether we move or not, they are speaking not only for themselves but also for the non cpo holders that would say no, until the club gives cast iron guarantees that we never move out of south west london and lets the cpo is transfered onto the new ground, I hope they continue to say no, as for us supporters they are our only voice on the matter.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

That was the original idea behind the cpo, its just that it never got to the level of members first thought was possible by bates, im not sure what is wrong with 15k people who are majority dyed in the wool chelsea fans having the ultimate say on whether we move or not, they are speaking not only for themselves but also for the non cpo holders that would say no, until the club gives cast iron guarantees that we never move out of south west london and lets the cpo is transfered onto the new ground, I hope they continue to say no, as for us supporters they are our only voice on the matter.

Agree. I imagine what happened today if viewed in the 'Russian way' was that Gourlay and Buck fucked up. His lackeys didnt do their job.

We are bigger than Roman, and he didn't do this for us, he did it for himself and he's had his fun. I actually don't care how he feels. To him Roman comes first, to me Chelsea comes first. Yes he's engineered success for us, but never believe that we are indebted to him or that he cares about the fans. We will be here long after his departure whatever the weather.

[eldo 868]

. To him Roman comes first, to me Chelsea comes first.

[Fabriccfc 21]

The shares yes, but what is with stadium?

Sorry I don't understand that question.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

The raised eyes smiley thing is presumably your way of saying you put an owner before a club. Are you related to him, a doe eyed hero- worship thing ? homo-erotic type thing ? or just that he has loads of muneeeee ?

[eldo 868]

The raised eyes smiley thing is presumably your way of saying you put an owner before a club. Are you related to him, a doe eyed hero- worship thing ? homo-erotic type thing ? or just that he has loads of muneeeee ?

No it's my way of saying that you are pathetic and you proved it.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

No it's my way of saying that you are pathetic and you proved it.

Why because I put the club first before an owner ?

Why is that 'pathetic' ? All you've proved is that you can insult with no logical argument., which isnt that clever really, is it ?