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5 hours ago, KEVINAA said:

After every Chelsea draw or loss. Just check ( twitter / X ) search terms.

Chelsea relegated

Man Utd Chelsea Relegated

These people are so happy and are smiling while touching themselves while typing this and it's an echo chamber of every one typing the same thing, these people want this so bad because their life needs it.

There are a lot of football fans hurting after that decade of dominance by Chelsea & Man Utd. 

This is their time to gloat.

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Mason Greenwood targeted with ‘die’ chants by fans on Getafe debut
The 21-year-old’s entry into the match – won 3-2 by Getafe – was met with hostility by Osasuna fans

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/09/17/mason-greenwood-getafe-debut-die-chants-osasuna-fans/

Getafe's Mason Greenwood reacts after coming on late as substitute to make his debut during a Spanish La Liga soccer match between Getafe and Osasuna at the Coliseum stadium in Getafe, Spain

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this was written before the game tonight

Written off by many, Callum Hudson-Odoi could be bargain of the year

Exclusive interview: Winger says leaving Chelsea was emotional but he can return to his best under Steve Cooper at Nottingham Forest

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/09/18/callum-hudson-odoi-nottingham-forest-Chelsea-england-ghana/

Callum Hudson-Odoi poses at the Nottingham Forest training ground

 

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Odoi is twice the player Mudryk is at this time. I'm talking even when Odoi was ineffective, which indeed happened often after his injury.

I'm talking about the basics of movement, one-twos, tracking back, etc. Odoi is just a far more ready player in my book. 🤷‍♂️

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When are y'all gonna keep realising it isn't the players, but the tactics and culture? 

"How do these players suddenly become shit when they come to us?"

We aren't putting them in positions to score. Simple. 

Haaland would be on a third of the goals he is on now if he was here. You wouldn't even know how good he actually is with the way we setup. 

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1 hour ago, Thor said:

When are y'all gonna keep realising it isn't the players, but the tactics and culture? 

"How do these players suddenly become shit when they come to us?"

We aren't putting them in positions to score. Simple. 

Haaland would be on a third of the goals he is on now if he was here. You wouldn't even know how good he actually is with the way we setup. 

so put you down as calling for a Poch sacking?

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Ukraine league is just too weak to be used as reference, esp compared to the PL.
Where you play, who you play against, and who you play with means *everything*.

We are not cursed 😆 the demands of playing for a top club can be vastly different from playing for a smaller club: not only the pressure, but also strategies. Smaller teams do play differently with much different team setups.

It's quite common for players to not pan out at a bigger club who need to drop a level.

Come on... we play the PL with a U23 Olympic team with a bunch of nobodies ok "bets", but it's always the manager. 😅 replace Poch and it's going to be the same shit.
Start with the manager dance and we will find out how much lower can the club go.

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