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[Vesper 28,772]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Wolves would eclipse us and we'd be fighting Leicester for 8th at best. 

your maths do not add up

you said 8th to 11th

lets say Wolves does keep team together and add 4 or so upgrades

that leaves us in 7th, and I so doubt Leicester will be able to keep some key players, plus you would need another team above us and Leicester if we are 'battling for 8th' as Wolves only makes 6 teams above us both

Many big teams will really come after Chilwell, Ricardo Pereira, Wilfred Ndidi, Youri Tielemans (who is only on loan anyway), James Maddison, and Demarai Gray., maybe Harry Maguire too. I dont see how they will hold onto many of them, they are a selling club.

Also, if we do not get a window, I just dont see us selling Eden, unless it is a HUGE offer, and RM is looking at many other layers as well, so I dont see them tossing £100m for Haard when they can but other much needed players and get him on a free in 15 months 

finally to get to 11th place, THREE other teams beyond Wolves and Leicester would also have to leapfrog us

there just is not that many good teams in the EPL to do that consistently

the only way we collapse for 3,4,5 years is if we (and this IS a possibility, a true nightmare, if Abramovich is actually in liquidation/cash draw-out mode due to sanctions) lose CHO, lose Eden, Pulisic is a bust and Roman completely turns off the cash for any transfers of worth. At some point, if he does try that, the outrage would be so high that the EPL and the FA might step in (only if it was blatant beyond all doubt). Newcastle's cunt of an owner is treading a thing line already in that direction, but he always tosses out just enough cash to keep the PTB at bay.

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

Just now, Vesper said:

your maths do not add up

you said 8th to 11th

lets say Wolves does keep team together and add 4 or so upgrades

that leaves us in 7th, and I so doubt Leicester will be able to keep some key players, plus you would need another team above us and Leicester if we are 'battling for 8th' as Wolves only makes 6 teams above us both

Many big teams will really come after Chilwell, Ricardo Pereira, Wilfred Ndidi, Youri Tielemans (who is only on loan anyway), James Maddison, and Demarai Gray., maybe Harry Maguire too. I dont see how they will hold onto many of them, they are a selling club.

Also, if we do not get a window, I just dont see us selling Eden, unless it is a HUGE offer, and RM is looking at many other layers as well, so I dont see them tossing £100m for Haard when they can but other much needed players and get him on a free in 15 months 

finally to get to 11th place, THREE other teams beyond Wolves and Leicester would also have to leapfrog us

there just is not that many good teams in the EPL to do that consistently

the only way we collapse for 3,4,5 years is if we (and this IS a possibility, a true nightmare, if Abramovich is actually in liquidation/cash draw-out mode due to sanctions) lose CHO, lose Eden, Pulisic is a bust and Roman completely turns off the cash for any transfers of worth. At some point, if he does try that, the outrage would be so high that the EPL and the FA might step in (only if it was blatant beyond all doubt). Newcastle's cunt of an owner is treading a thing line already in that direction, but he always tosses out just enough cash to keep the PTB at bay.

Ok. Then we are a 7th place team without Hazard. 

 

[Vesper 28,772]

2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Ok. Then we are a 7th place team without Hazard. 

 

not if we upgrade and strengthened the overall team (which would happen after the bans)

if the bans are deferred we could do something like this, IF we were bold enough, and this team below, with NO Eden is infinitely better than the one we have now, and is far more flexible in terms of systems as well

 

 

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[Vesper 28,772]

dodged a bullet there

come on Geordies!

[Vesper 28,772]

fuckkkkkkkkk

[Vesper 28,772]

Ramsey is going to tear it up with Juve, Arse are crazy to let him walk on a free

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

I feel like the only reason Arsenal are ahead of us is having two midfielders with end product in Ramsey and Ozil. 

Barkley and Kovacic wish they could of done what Ramsey just did there. 

[Vesper 28,772]

27 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I feel like the only reason Arsenal are ahead of us is having two midfielders with end product in Ramsey and Ozil. 

Barkley and Kovacic wish they could of done what Ramsey just did there. 

Özil has been meh this year and has only played 1666 minutes all comps, only 1249 league minutes so far

Ramsey only had 3 league goals coming in (granted he has not been an every-game starter)

the main reason they are where they are, IMHO, is those 2 great strikers

if they had a decent back 4 they would  in 3rd by ten points, Emery has done an amazing job the those shit CB's and fullbacks they have

we have just had pure dross at striker since Drogba, other than 2 decent years for Costa (he was shit on that 10th place Mo team)

 

[nyikolajevics 2,573]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Özil has been meh this year and has only played 1666 minutes all comps, only 1249 league minutes so far

Ramsey only had 3 league goals coming in (granted he has not been an every-game starter)

the main reason they are where they are, IMHO, is those 2 great strikers

if they had a decent back 4 they would  in 3rd by ten points, Emery has done an amazing job the those shit CB's and fullbacks they have

we have just had pure dross at striker since Drogba, other than 2 decent years for Costa (he was shit on that 10th place Mo team)

 

Agree. Lacazett and Aubameyang are serious motherfuckers, I would sign any of them in a minute.

[Vesper 28,772]

ffs, Newcastle looks like us on bad day in terms of trouble scoring

[Laylabelle 9,351]

2-0....game over.. 

Though if we win Wednesday we can go 4th!!! For a few days really but oh well!!! Can enjoy it while it lasts lol and pretend. 

Arsenal's goal diff is depressing.. 

[Vesper 28,772]

pfffft

2 nil

done

the cunts are in 3rd by 2 points and have fuckall in terms of games they wont be heavy favourites left

 

its going to be us v Manure and the yids for 4th I think

and we have a harder schedule than they do

[Vesper 28,772]

4 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

2-0....game over.. 

Though if we win Wednesday we can go 4th!!! For a few days really but oh well!!! Can enjoy it while it lasts lol and pretend. 

Arsenal's goal diff is depressing.. 

unreal that spuds have lost 4 of last 5 and only drew the other, yet are above us on points and GD

[Alabama 1,992]

Lol... 

You all getting worked up over Arse results...have you forgotten we have Sarri in charge....even if Arse manage to drop points today... Do u think we can capitalise? 

Never in a billion year 

[Laylabelle 9,351]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

pfffft

2 nil

done

the cunts are in 3rd by 2 points and have fuckall in terms of games they wont be heavy favourites left

 

its going to be us v Manure and the yids for 4th I think

and we have a harder schedule than they do

Even if had straightforward games they wouldn't be.. We nearly lost to Cardiff. 

I'd like to think be in the race but don't think so. Plus play Wednesday and we've played more then the rest around us.  Everyone has sprung up suddenly and we went weeeeeee down down

Hey ho...we're good in Europa

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

It's Spurs or United we need to hope fuck up. Arsenal have a piss easy rest of the season compared to us three. 

[Vesper 28,772]

Just now, Laylabelle said:

Even if had straightforward games they wouldn't be.. We nearly lost to Cardiff. 

I'd like to think be in the race but don't think so. Plus play Wednesday and we've played more then the rest around us. 

Hey ho...we're good in Europa

I am so not convinced we can win the EL. Playing like we have ?????

If we play like we did v the sheep shaggers, Slavia Praha will have a great chance of beating us, at least in Prague

they are the worst team left, but miles beyond any team we have faced so far

I saw them tear apart a damn good Sevilla team