The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Still no Rooney tonight, hmmm what really is going on, he's hardly played under Moyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 he's hardly played under Moyes...What are you on about? He's been United's best player this season, he's played tons. 24 appearances to be precise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 What are you on about? He's been United's best player this season, he's played tons. 24 appearances to be precise...How many starts? I'm sure that he has more starts this by January then he did the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 How many starts? I'm sure that he has more starts this by January then he did the last.Yeah, pretty sure that's the case too. 19 starts already this season if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Can see Rooney doing another "Im not happy" phase, only to sign a better contract for United in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'd throw another bid at them, just to unsettle them even more, because I'm a prick like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 there is an exclusive article in The Times saying that talks over a new deal have failed to get off the ground, and Rooney is flattered by Chelsea's continuing interest. Can't read the entire article thoughAnd I've found something interesting in The Telegraph: "Even if United refuse to sell, Rooney would have the option of exploring the possibility of buying himself out of the final year of his contract.Under Article 17 of Fifa’s regulations for the status and transfer of players, a player who signed a contract before the age of 28 is entitled to buy himself out of the contract three years after the deal was signed.Rooney was 24 when he signed his last United contract on Oct 22, 2010, so his so-called ‘protected period’ officially ended on Oct 22, 2013.To avoid Fifa sanctions, Rooney would have to serve United with his intention to leave within 15 days of the final Premier League game of the season on May 11.Such a move would be costly to Rooney, whose United deal is worth £250,000 a week, but he could demand a huge signing on fee by effectively moving as a free agent.United are seventh in the Premier League table, five points behind fourth-placed Liverpool and have lost their last three games. Chelsea are third, two points off leaders Arsenal and have won their last four matches." Now, I don't really know the rules, but "buying himself out of the final year of his contract" I think it means paying United those 12 months he is left in his contract. 12 months x £250,000 a week equals a total of £12million. I don't really expect Rooney to pay that from his own money, if you know what I mean, but sounds like a good deal for me. Add £8million to that, his signing on fee, and this would go to a total of £20million deal. Good piece of business if you ask me, he'll be 29 in the next season though, but still with two or three top seasons in his pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 there is an exclusive article in The Times saying that talks over a new deal have failed to get off the ground, and Rooney is flattered by Chelsea's continuing interest. Can't read the entire article thoughAnd I've found something interesting in The Telegraph: "Even if United refuse to sell, Rooney would have the option of exploring the possibility of buying himself out of the final year of his contract.Under Article 17 of Fifa’s regulations for the status and transfer of players, a player who signed a contract before the age of 28 is entitled to buy himself out of the contract three years after the deal was signed.Rooney was 24 when he signed his last United contract on Oct 22, 2010, so his so-called ‘protected period’ officially ended on Oct 22, 2013.To avoid Fifa sanctions, Rooney would have to serve United with his intention to leave within 15 days of the final Premier League game of the season on May 11.Such a move would be costly to Rooney, whose United deal is worth £250,000 a week, but he could demand a huge signing on fee by effectively moving as a free agent.United are seventh in the Premier League table, five points behind fourth-placed Liverpool and have lost their last three games. Chelsea are third, two points off leaders Arsenal and have won their last four matches." Now, I don't really know the rules, but "buying himself out of the final year of his contract" I think it means paying United those 12 months he is left in his contract. 12 months x £250,000 a week equals a total of £12million. I don't really expect Rooney to pay that from his own money, if you know what I mean, but sounds like a good deal for me. Add £8million to that, his signing on fee, and this would go to a total of £20million deal. Good piece of business if you ask me, he'll be 29 in the next season though, but still with two or three top seasons in his pocket.There's a chat going on Twitter about this right now.https://twitter.com/ianlynam/status/421602168194351104Apparently it's not as clear cut as that article suggests and would apparently include his 'market value' included in any attempt to buy himself out. How you arrive at that would be fairly complicated but the bottom line is that he probably could force a move if he wanted to.Bear in mind that he never actually submitted a formal transfer request last time so going about it this other way would be unlikely, or at least a last resort. United's current predicament could impact a lot of their transfer dealings over the next couple of windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Yeah, I read about this the other day. Like TOPTB said, it's not as simple as it first sounds. I think it could be a good card to pressure utd into a move but I doubt Wayne will actually do it.I think united won't make top 4 and Rooney will be gone in the summer one way or the other. I think if we really want him we will get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,763 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 We'll be back in for him come the summer, no doubt about that. Unless United have a major up turn in form their is absolutely nothing at United for him now, nothing at all. Even an up turn in form won't be enough because I think they will be finishing 5th/6th this season, they just lack everything from top to bottom. He's surrounded now by bog standard average players, and with that will come sub-standard performances, sub-standard league position with a sub-standard manager.He'd be immense here as a lone striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 There's a chat going on Twitter about this right now.https://twitter.com/ianlynam/status/421602168194351104Apparently it's not as clear cut as that article suggests and would apparently include his 'market value' included in any attempt to buy himself out. How you arrive at that would be fairly complicated but the bottom line is that he probably could force a move if he wanted to.Bear in mind that he never actually submitted a formal transfer request last time so going about it this other way would be unlikely, or at least a last resort. United's current predicament could impact a lot of their transfer dealings over the next couple of windows.Now I see. Would have been too easy I guess and this saga has "go the hard way!" written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I think Jose is still interested, he told " I don't want to speak about a united player". If we weren't interested, he would have said "no interest" like always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Wayne Rooney sent away by Manchester United on a "hot weather break" and won't play against Swanseahttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-sent-away-manchester-3008279 Jose Mourinho holds out for Wayne Rooney summer deal after rejecting strikers offered to Chelsea during windowhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10562336/Jose-Mourinho-holds-out-for-Wayne-Rooney-summer-deal-after-rejecting-strikers-offered-to-Chelsea-during-window.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 He surely will not come here this window, cup-tied, middle of the season and shit.On a different note, looking at Utd's performances in recent weeks, they will be there for the taking next week. We really should go all out on them like we did vs Southampton and Liverpool and it will be a slaughter. A high-scoring victory would also send the right signal in the title race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Jose better have something better up his sleeve in the summer. Praising him did not work in our favor last time, it didn't unsettle them and the fans got behind him. So far this has been a complete waste of a year for Rooney, United aren't going anywhere this season. They could do what we did in the CL when we were poor in the league, but any half decent team will rip them apart IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,279 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 From Rooney:" Agreed with the manager and the medical team that some warm weather training and recuperation would help this niggling injury I have been trying to play through. Gutted I am not available for selection tomorrow, but sure the lads will give everything to get the right result. As I said earlier today the crowd can help the team's confidence massively so hopefully everyone will get behind the lads and stay with them and the manager throughout the game."Doesn't really sound like a guy who's itching to leave does it? This whole situation wreaks of desperation on United's part to suck up to Rooney and pamper him so he stays. Make him feel special. Why isn't RvP sent on a cushy holiday or any of the other injured players? I think Wayne will get another giant contract from United and Moyes will look like a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 From Rooney:" Agreed with the manager and the medical team that some warm weather training and recuperation would help this niggling injury I have been trying to play through. Gutted I am not available for selection tomorrow, but sure the lads will give everything to get the right result. As I said earlier today the crowd can help the team's confidence massively so hopefully everyone will get behind the lads and stay with them and the manager throughout the game."Doesn't really sound like a guy who's itching to leave does it? This whole situation wreaks of desperation on United's part to suck up to Rooney and pamper him so he stays. Make him feel special. Why isn't RvP sent on a cushy holiday or any of the other injured players?I think Wayne will get another giant contract from United and Moyes will look like a hero.Rooney may look stupid, but I doubt he'll sign any extensions before utd secure top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 If I were Mourinho I'd do an Arsenal and throw a bid for him the day before we face them just for the laugh! That would get back at them for 'leaking' that bullshit story in the summer about a Mata/Luiz trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I don't see Rooney hanging around for another year to play in the Europa League, they won't challenge for the title either, unless they get some major signings in the summer. He's 28, 4 years left at the very top of his game? I just don't see him investing that time into being part of a United rebuild. Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Recently I have been posting with the words "what I expect" and today wont be different. SO what I expect to happen is us getting rid of Demba Ba and Eto'ó and if we get rid of Torres, Rooney would sign with Lukaku, being a rotation option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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