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[We Hate Scouse 10,330]

I hated TOPTB when he first joined. Absolutely couldn't stand him, but over time he grew on me and was actually one of my favourite posters.

Disappointing, but understandable. Although I think some of the staff acted just as badly towards him and were somewhat provocative.

[yuvala 2,167]

Its pretty hard at the army guys, in 3-4 month it'll be much easier and also I could go back to posting here everyday and I could watch all of the matches

[Fulham Broadway 17,351]

17 000 houses in Detroit had their water cut off.

Amazing a city can go bankrupt in the richest country in the World. People having to shower at churches and cant flush their bogs or cook.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Is anybody else a little sad that 'The only place to be' has been banned

I'm not knocking the mods - I'm sure you gave plenty of warnings etc

I will just miss that opposing view and way of looking at things from a different angle

Anyway back to your philosophy and illuminati - strange pub this is

He was an excellent member at times and we did try to delay it as much as possible, but as I told him, we had to make the decision and the forum will move forward without him.

I hated TOPTB when he first joined. Absolutely couldn't stand him, but over time he grew on me and was actually one of my favourite posters.

Disappointing, but understandable. Although I think some of the staff acted just as badly towards him and were somewhat provocative.

Wasn't just what he did in public but also the harassing and threatening members in PMs which you know all too well about.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Is anybody else a little sad that 'The only place to be' has been banned

I'm not knocking the mods - I'm sure you gave plenty of warnings etc

I will just miss that opposing view and way of looking at things from a different angle

Anyway back to your philosophy and illuminati - strange pub this is

It's really easy to see why he was banned. He outplayed mods with his words, only answer was to ban him to eliminate the uncomfortable opposition. In a sense this forum is a small replica of an authoritarian country led by insecure people - as it turn out.

[We Hate Scouse 10,330]

Wasn't just what he did in public but also the harassing and threatening members in PMs which you know all too well about.

Oh definitely. As I said it's understandable, it was very clear that he was very passionate about what he believed in and lost his temper. Just disappointing is all.

[MetsajCFC 1,255]

What annoys me the most is the fact that every poster who has a different opinion on any matter will get banned or silenced sooner rather than later. This forum used to be the go-to-place to read long well written posts on football, politics and so on while now the most popular threads seem to be The Pub, "Alex owes us a dance" and Girls in Chelsea shirts, what the actual fuck?

Mods are taking things way too personally and getting involved in arguments while their duty should be to avoid these kinds of internet-battles between two regular members, not getting involved themselves, prime example being Politics thread just now. Would it be hard to just let TOPTB for example just have his opinion and ignore him (while I do share many of his views) and just move on? Why take it so personally? Verbal warning to a permanent ban in a matter of days? Provocative and very unprofessional behaviour from the staff. Since when are people not allowed to have a differing opinion on something, be it politics, football, education and so on? Why do certain people feel the urge and need to try to CHANGE and prove someone's veiws WRONG all the time? Why can't they be and stay DIFFERENT? I think I'm making my point very clear.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Toptb banned doesn't feel right.. Don't know about the harrassments via PM's obviously, but banning such an intelligent articulate poster is bad for the quality of the forum. Ah well

[The Skipper 20,609]

What annoys me the most is the fact that every poster who has a different opinion on any matter will get banned or silenced sooner rather than later. This forum used to be the go-to-place to read long well written posts on football, politics and so on while now the most popular threads seem to be The Pub, "Alex owes us a dance" and Girls in Chelsea shirts, what the actual fuck?

Mods are taking things way too personally and getting involved in arguments while their duty should be to avoid these kinds of internet-battles between two regular members, not getting involved themselves, prime example being Politics thread just now. Would it be hard to just let TOPTB for example just have his opinion and ignore him (while I do share many of his views) and just move on? Why take it so personally? Verbal warning to a permanent ban in a matter of days? Provocative and very unprofessional behaviour from the staff. Since when are people not allowed to have a differing opinion on something, be it politics, football, education and so on? Why do certain people feel the urge and need to try to CHANGE and prove someone's veiws WRONG all the time? Why can't they be and stay DIFFERENT? I think I'm making my point very clear.

I don't think him going has anything to do with him providing different views at all... It's more to do with the fact that he's been goading members up personally and his passive aggressiveness, whatever he said to some people over PM and stuff. It's a shame because he really was an excellent member of the forum but obviously there's only so much leniency staff can give.

And contrary to your belief. The pub isn't anywhere near as active as it used to be before. The 'girls in CFC shirts' thread isn't really popular and nor is 'Alex owes us a dance'. There is still plenty of political debate going on - check the politics thread, it's been very active over the last few weeks. There's also an 'Independent Scotland' thread that's been very active recently.

The forum still has plenty of football debate going on, there was recently a massive debate on whether we need English talent in our team, a massive debate on Oscar's role in the team, Ramires' usefulness etc... I would say that the long debates are definitely still there. If you don't believe that then you haven't really been reading IMO.

[TOPTB 51]

I never threatened anyone.

Fulham Broadway made a post I felt went too far, I challenged him to say it in person to me and HE ACCEPTED (saying Anytime, Anywhere Love).

I made it explicitly clear I didn't want to fight him, simply have him say this disgusting thing to my face. He then began ignoring PMs and deleting posts that had nothing to do with this incident.

Either way I want to thank all the posters on here for some amazing times. This account will be banned but I'd love to keep in contact with some people so I'll post my email in the next post.

[TOPTB 51]

Many thanks and much respect to all the posters on this site, wherever you're from.

If you want to contact me then it's [email protected]

Shitty email address I know.

Take care all of you and KTBFFH

[TOPTB 51]

I don't think him going has anything to do with him providing different views at all... It's more to do with the fact that he's been goading members up personally and his passive aggressiveness, whatever he said to some people over PM and stuff.

I'm more than willing to send you the PMs I sent and received.

Anyway mate, I'll miss chatting with you (and others). You're a great bloke and feel free to hit me up on [email protected]

[TOPTB 51]

What annoys me the most is the fact that every poster who has a different opinion on any matter will get banned or silenced sooner rather than later. This forum used to be the go-to-place to read long well written posts on football, politics and so on while now the most popular threads seem to be The Pub, "Alex owes us a dance" and Girls in Chelsea shirts, what the actual fuck?

Mods are taking things way too personally and getting involved in arguments while their duty should be to avoid these kinds of internet-battles between two regular members, not getting involved themselves, prime example being Politics thread just now. Would it be hard to just let TOPTB for example just have his opinion and ignore him (while I do share many of his views) and just move on? Why take it so personally? Verbal warning to a permanent ban in a matter of days? Provocative and very unprofessional behaviour from the staff. Since when are people not allowed to have a differing opinion on something, be it politics, football, education and so on? Why do certain people feel the urge and need to try to CHANGE and prove someone's veiws WRONG all the time? Why can't they be and stay DIFFERENT? I think I'm making my point very clear.

In defence of the mods, they're actually mostly fine.

This came down to a personal difference between Fulham Broadway and I. Of course I've had run ins with other mods (Choulo once posting my personal info after things got a bit heated) but I've never once threatened violence against anyone.

I explicitly stated that. I would rather people didn't lie about me.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I'm more than willing to send you the PMs I sent and received.

Anyway mate, I'll miss chatting with you (and others). You're a great bloke and feel free to hit me up on [email protected]

Ah that won't be necessary but will do pal. You will be missed, as I said before, an excellent member and one of the best ones on the forum. I might drop you an email (lovely email btw haha) to let you know the next time I'm at SB so we can possibly grab a few beers or something.

[Hutcho 8,443]

I haven't been overly active recently.

But me and the only place to be used to argue about a lot and have differing opinions.

But he has generally had pretty good opinions or at least interesting opinions on things and I can't remember arguing with him recently and generally saw eye to eye on most things.

Now I have no idea what he did or what happened in PM's. I see he is posting above me but I haven't read it yet.

But over time I felt he was a good poster.

Not saying the ban was wrong or whatever as I said I haven't read much yet.

But in general I think this forum perma bans people too much or too early. Imo I think it would be better if instead of warnings you gave them a day or a week bans. Then a perma.

But as I said no idea about this case specifically. Just added my 2p.

[TOPTB 51]

Ah that won't be necessary but will do pal. You will be missed, as I said before, an excellent member and one of the best ones on the forum. I might drop you an email (lovely email btw haha) to let you know the next time I'm at SB so we can possibly grab a few beers or something.

I let myself get goaded by people calling me a 'keyboard warrior' (rather ironically).

I'd just prefer if mods/admins didn't say I threatened people. Take care of yourself mate, of course we had disagreements but I always respected and valued your opinion.

Same goes for many other people (off the top of my head Muzchap, Stingray, WHS, Tomo, Iseah, James,Special Juan, skipper, Choulo, Liquidator, Ollie, didierforever....yeah I know, Alex, so, so many others, all the Belgians,Hutcho, Jason, Chelsealegend11, Korea, Barbara,metsajcfc, sinene, jype, peace, dion, ldn blue, strike, robguima, amels, mhl47, mesousa, zolayes.....miss you all and to anyone I missed out I'm rushing because I'm about to get banned again but if you think I meant you then I certainly did and if you think I hated you then you're only half right).

[TOPTB 51]

I haven't been overly active recently.

But me and the only place to be used to argue about a lot and have differing opinions.

But he has generally had pretty good opinions or at least interesting opinions on things and I can't remember arguing with him recently and generally saw eye to eye on most things.

Now I have no idea what he did or what happened in PM's. I see he is posting above me but I haven't read it yet.

But over time I felt he was a good poster.

Not saying the ban was wrong or whatever as I said I haven't read much yet.

But in general I think this forum perma bans people too much or too early. Imo I think it would be better if instead of warnings you gave them a day or a week bans. Then a perma.

But as I said no idea about this case specifically. Just added my 2p.

In their defence I certainly earned my earlier warnings and they reined me in.

This last week was simply about FB saying something way beyond the pale, me challenging him to say it to my face and then him backing away from it by deleting my posts.

I actually liked the guy as a poster but some things are off-limits and he crossed a line.

Also thanks to Jim for the site and the admins/mods for running it.

I suppose I'll have to hold hands and skip with Bushman and Kojo now.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I don't think him going has anything to do with him providing different views at all... It's more to do with the fact that he's been goading members up personally and his passive aggressiveness, whatever he said to some people over PM and stuff. It's a shame because he really was an excellent member of the forum but obviously there's only so much leniency staff can give.

And contrary to your belief. The pub isn't anywhere near as active as it used to be before. The 'girls in CFC shirts' thread isn't really popular and nor is 'Alex owes us a dance'. There is still plenty of political debate going on - check the politics thread, it's been very active over the last few weeks. There's also an 'Independent Scotland' thread that's been very active recently.

The forum still has plenty of football debate going on, there was recently a massive debate on whether we need English talent in our team, a massive debate on Oscar's role in the team, Ramires' usefulness etc... I would say that the long debates are definitely still there. If you don't believe that then you haven't really been reading IMO.

Nostalgia is a beautiful thing, but we always remember things unrealistically better than they actually were. I've been here for over 3 years and the forum has always been in an upward trend. In terms of activity and quality, this is the best the forum has been (and this is by far the least active the pub has been).

In their defence I certainly earned my earlier warnings and they reined me in.

This last week was simply about FB saying something way beyond the pale, me challenging him to say it to my face and then him backing away from it by deleting my posts.

I actually liked the guy as a poster but some things are off-limits and he crossed a line.

Also thanks to Jim for the site and the admins/mods for running it.

I suppose I'll have to hold hands and skip with Bushman and Kojo now.

Thanks for staying classy about this and again sorry it had to come to this.

[TOPTB 51]

Thanks for staying classy about this and again sorry it had to come to this.

No worries. I know we had our run-ins but I respected what you said about football.

Just remember me when Nat is made skipper. Take care.

[Beepu 1,714]

In their defence I certainly earned my earlier warnings and they reined me in.

This last week was simply about FB saying something way beyond the pale, me challenging him to say it to my face and then him backing away from it by deleting my posts.

I actually liked the guy as a poster but some things are off-limits and he crossed a line.

Also thanks to Jim for the site and the admins/mods for running it.

I suppose I'll have to hold hands and skip with Bushman and Kojo now.

If he accepted your challenge and came to say it to your face then what would you do?

Although I didn't agree with your views all the time, I do enjoy your posts. You are not on the same level with Bushman.