Ramires

[Heisenberg 1,824]

I think Choulo means mid-table and lower by bench him in the big games. Not start him against teams like Spurs and Arsena;.

I think both you and Choulo did not understand my troll toward Arsenal and Tottenham, because I see them as small mid-table teams.I've over-hyped your intelligence, sorry

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Yes I will bring up "running around" as you put it again . Because running power in that position is vital ,that is why Ramires is being playerd there,he is not playing aka Makelele as Mikel has attempted to ,Ramires can attempt to win the ball higher up the pitch and recover his position and I have seen him do this several times ,during a game you will have seen and will see Ramires further forward than Lampard on occasions ,this cant happen with Mikel as once beaten he is dead as he has no running power to recover his position .

Even at 35 Lampard has more running power,speed and stamina than Mikel ,hence they are our first choice pairing ,Van Ginkel maybe in the future but Mikel will never be under Jose ,for the above reasons.

Well you clearly don't understand. Not sure why you keep bringing up Mikel when I'm specifically just talking about Ramires and the role he's given. Imo this role does not suit his strengths. That's really my only point. He's playing like a holder, and he shouldn't imo.

[Phil Driver 503]

All good views chaps ,but I will sleep well knowing my view is shared by the special one .

You can call me the special poster if you wish .

And I am very happy that the happy one is back ,because he is getting it RIGHT .

I can see these maps are appearing again ,but I fail to see that Mikel has any action areas tbh

He is as active where he is ,ON THE BENCH .

[Phil Driver 503]

choulou .love your maps .

Do they show whether someone is actually running and tackling or just standing still? Are they actually "ACTION AREAS"?

[The Skipper 20,609]

Well you clearly don't understand. Not sure why you keep bringing up Mikel when I'm specifically just talking about Ramires and the role he's given. Imo this role does not suit his strengths. That's really my only point. He's playing like a holder, and he shouldn't imo.

He can't make a single post without bringing up Mikel tbh.

[Phil Driver 503]

Lets explore this action areas theory a bit more !!

Does anyone not agree that Ramires covers more ground than Mikel in any match? and probably covers twice as much ground?

So do these action areas actually accurately reflect somebody in action or merely where somebody is standing on the pitch?

Could I go and stand in the centre of Choulou's pitch and his graphs would show my action area as being very central .

[bleed_blue 136]

As you can clearly see that they are both playing at approximately the same depth both against the strong team where we had to defend (utd and liverpool) and the weaker team where we were on the front foot. So no, Ramires is NOT playing more advanced than Mikel usually does. In fact, if there is any major difference to take from these examples it is that, contrary to popular belief, Mikel seems to be moving more around the pitch while Ramires looks too restricted in that central area and around the halfway circle.

Can't get any dumber than that.

Moving more around the pitch can be proved only using distance covered not by these action areas.

First learn about graphs, figures and logical interpretations and then start applying them.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Can't get any dumber than that.

Moving more around the pitch can be proved only using distance covered not by these action areas.

First learn about graphs, figures and logical interpretations and then start applying them.

I did not say he runs more, I said he moves more around the pitch meaning he covers more parts of the pitch not that he covers more distance.

And for the last time, stop insulting people.

[bleed_blue 136]

I did not say he runs more, I said he moves more around the pitch meaning he covers more parts of the pitch not that he covers more distance.

And for the last time, stop insulting people.

He does not cover more areas, he just squats around for long periods in different areas.

Seriously, for the last time, watch a chelsea game and then comment.

[Phil Driver 503]

Insulting people where? Proving you wrong again more like . Action areas

I did not say he runs more, I said he moves more around the pitch meaning he covers more parts of the pitch not that he covers more distance.

And for the last time, stop insulting people.

Can't get any dumber than that.

Moving more around the pitch can be proved only using distance covered not by these action areas.

First learn about graphs, figures and logical interpretations and then start applying them.

[Svita 10 186]

surprised nobody is writting here. he was pure today, another idiotic tackles from him. he should be substitued after first half. i want to start mikel over this lad

[yuvala 2,167]

surprised nobody is writting here. he was pure today, another idiotic tackles from him. he should be substitued after first half. i want to start mikel over this lad

You want to start MIKEL over him? super over-reaction.

[polo 18]

stupid guy

[Amblève. 4,995]

I'm not sure about the second yellow card, tbh. Luiz pushed Götze I think, so Ramires had no chance to avoid the contact but I'd have to re-watch that scene.

[JDY 1,290]

stupid guy

It was a clumsy tackle. Little disappointed with him but the whole team performance far outweighs one moment of madness for me.