ManchesterMatt 52 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Bale is faster than Hazard.His shots are more powerful than Hazard's and because most of them change direction they really are dangerous.Bale is one of the best free kick takers in the world. When was the last time Hazard scored a free kick?Bale is better in defence, although Hazard did a much better job this season compared to 2013-2014.Bale is left-footed. Left-footed players have special importance.For me Bale is the best player in the world.A small difference in speed doesn't make him better than Hazard - If speed was a major factor then Lennon, Walcott and Welbeck would be in front of Hazard.Shot power doesn't make a difference - I would prefer a player to score more goals as opposed to hitting 9/10 shots into the stands.The infrequency of scorable free kicks does not create a good enough argument to put Bale over Hazard.Bale is left footed. And? So is Ozil but I don't want him.No he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Can't believe people are talking as if Bale is some shit player. Dude only a couple years ago had one of the most dominant PL seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Can't believe people are talking as if Bale is some shit player. Dude only a couple years ago had one of the most dominant PL seasons.are you serious??? not even close to one of the most dominant PL seasons! Bale was only good in the 2nd half of the season, no one was talking ablout Bale in the 1st half of the season in his last year at Spurs.He hit form at the right time, when the POTY voting was open, overall he wasnt that good. Nothing compared to Hazard this season, Suarez 13/14, Ronaldo 06/07 & 07/08, Terry 04/05, Henry 02/03 & 03/04, Van Nistlerooy 01/02, Shearer 96/97 & 94/95 and Cantona 93/94.Even Drogba in 09/10 was better and more dominant then Bale, and Drogba didnt even win POTY in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open 45 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Oh joy. First it was all the talk of Hazard going to PSG. Now, it's Real Madrid.The goals aside, Hazard is so much better at everything else than Bale.Even then, Hazard has more goals than Bale this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 are you serious??? not even close to one of the most dominant PL seasons! Bale was only good in the 2nd half of the season, no one was talking ablout Bale in the 1st half of the season in his last year at Spurs.He hit form at the right time, when the POTY voting was open, overall he wasnt that good. Nothing compared to Hazard this season, Suarez 13/14, Ronaldo 06/07 & 07/08, Terry 04/05, Henry 02/03 & 03/04, Van Nistlerooy 01/02, Shearer 96/97 & 94/95 and Cantona 93/94.Even Drogba in 09/10 was better and more dominant then Bale, and Drogba didnt even win POTY in 2010.Dude, he absolutely carried an average Spurs side and was singlehandedly winning them games scoring 21 goals. All these talks of him lacking skills and being compared to Walcott/Lennon is just laughable. He undoubtedly had one of the most dominant seasons comparable to many you listed there. I'm not saying I'd swap Hazard for him, but he was better in that season than Hazard this season, and it wouldn't even be a debate for non-Chelsea fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchesterMatt 52 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Dude, he absolutely carried an average Spurs side and was singlehandedly winning them games scoring 21 goals. All these talks of him lacking skills and being compared to Walcott/Lennon is just laughable. He undoubtedly had one of the most dominant seasons comparable to many you listed there. I'm not saying I'd swap Hazard for him, but he was better in that season than Hazard this season, and it wouldn't even be a debate for non-Chelsea fans.Just to clear things up. I wasn't saying that Bale is comparable overall to Walcott, Lennon etc. I just said that his speed was.On another note. I would prefer to have Hazard's close dribbing ability over Bale's ability to hit a team on the break as 9/10 games we play in the premier league revolve around 'tika taka' football in the opponents final third. I agree that Bale is an amazing player, however I think that for a team such as ours we would benefit much more from having a player such as Hazard than a player such as Bale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 are you serious??? not even close to one of the most dominant PL seasons! Bale was only good in the 2nd half of the season, no one was talking ablout Bale in the 1st half of the season in his last year at Spurs.He hit form at the right time, when the POTY voting was open, overall he wasnt that good. Nothing compared to Hazard this season, Suarez 13/14, Ronaldo 06/07 & 07/08, Terry 04/05, Henry 02/03 & 03/04, Van Nistlerooy 01/02, Shearer 96/97 & 94/95 and Cantona 93/94.Even Drogba in 09/10 was better and more dominant then Bale, and Drogba didnt even win POTY in 2010.Hopefully your trolling you can't really be serious. I understand we all love our players more than any other thus sometimes hyping them but come on Bale had a more dominant season than Hazard when he won POTY. As for his playing style Bale is better in our system than Hazard. It's true thought i wouldn't sell Hazard for Bale because he is younger and not so injury prone as Bale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Dude, he absolutely carried an average Spurs side and was singlehandedly winning them games scoring 21 goals. All these talks of him lacking skills and being compared to Walcott/Lennon is just laughable. He undoubtedly had one of the most dominant seasons comparable to many you listed there. I'm not saying I'd swap Hazard for him, but he was better in that season than Hazard this season, and it wouldn't even be a debate for non-Chelsea fans.carried an average spurs side??? have you not seen thier team in 2012/13? they spent £60 million that summer more then Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton the three teams they would be competing with. Tottenham came 5th that season arguably where they should have finished with the squad they had, some would say they should have finished above Arsenal who spent less and lost song and Rvp that summer. so where exactly did Bale carry them to? to the position they should have finished in? great players carry their team to success, Bale simply didnt do that, its laughable to compare him with the players i listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hopefully your trolling you can't really be serious. I understand we all love our players more than any other thus sometimes hyping them but come on Bale had a more dominant season than Hazard when he won POTY. As for his playing style Bale is better in our system than Hazard. It's true thought i wouldn't sell Hazard for Bale because he is younger and not so injury prone as Bale.Please stop trolling. Hazard has almost single handedly carried us to the PL title in the 2nd half of the season! Bale helped Tottenham finish 5th behind Arsenal who spent less and lost 2 very key players that summer in Song and Van Persie, so if Bale was as dominant as you claim why couldnt he get Tottenhm to finish above Arsenal? if he did then you could compare him with Hazard, but he never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special 59 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 A small difference in speed doesn't make him better than Hazard - If speed was a major factor then Lennon, Walcott and Welbeck would be in front of Hazard.Shot power doesn't make a difference - I would prefer a player to score more goals as opposed to hitting 9/10 shots into the stands.The infrequency of scorable free kicks does not create a good enough argument to put Bale over Hazard.Bale is left footed. And? So is Ozil but I don't want him.No he's not.Speed is important...https://psv4.vk.me/c539520/u222382617/docs/fa730646f713/untitled-17gul35.gif?extra=hmHOMJbewVrWZH8nB38fT1GMOL4pTpyFy9XRrGy7RS7myMcyRRbPlZnRTtCAlZdYctub4xX7DNHL1UlP41wIEx4m9diWT-PXo10...but the thing is a player like Walcott doesn't have other factors bale has.----------------Shot power is important too. If your shots are not poweful then you can't score such goals:http://giant.gfycat.com/BackFeistyDungbeetle.gif----------------Our free kick takers are Fabregas (I think just scored one in pre-season), Oscar, Willian and Filipe Luis. How many free kicks have they scored?If we had a player like Bale we would certainly score more free kicks.----------------Left-footed players are rare. Yes, Mata is left-footed but Mourinho didn't want him. Royston Drenthe is also left-footed and I'm sure none of us want him. But I'm talking about Gareth Bale who Mourinho wanted him in Madrid.Mourinho on left-footed players (2013): "I've always liked a right-sided player to be left-footed. I started with (Arjen) Robben and (Damien) Duff, then (Goran) Pandev at Inter, and (Angel) Di Maria and (Mesut) Ozil. Many clubs do it. I like wingers coming in on the inside for the penetrative movement, for the pass, for the shot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Im seriously starting to doubt the 'blue engagement' if people want Eden to go. Ungrateful to say the least, even a touch of autism due to lack of understanding of what this would do to the team. Fuck me .... Bunch of scousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special 59 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Please stop trolling. Hazard has almost single handedly carried us to the PL title in the 2nd half of the season! Bale helped Tottenham finish 5th behind Arsenal who spent less and lost 2 very key players that summer in Song and Van Persie, so if Bale was as dominant as you claim why couldnt he get Tottenhm to finish above Arsenal? if he did then you could compare him with Hazard, but he never.Tottenham finished 5th because they didn't have Mourinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Please stop trolling. Hazard has almost single handedly carried us to the PL title in the 2nd half of the season! Bale helped Tottenham finish 5th behind Arsenal who spent less and lost 2 very key players that summer in Song and Van Persie, so if Bale was as dominant as you claim why couldnt he get Tottenhm to finish above Arsenal? if he did then you could compare him with Hazard, but he never.Hazard had great players around him while Bale nobody. How is that his fault Tottenham defense was and still is a joke. Just because Hazard is from our team doesn't mean he is the best in the history it's not even a competition from a random fan, one had 21 goals and 4 assist in 33 matches the other 13 and 8 assists in 34+ counting matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Can't believe people are talking as if Bale is some shit player. Dude only a couple years ago had one of the most dominant PL seasons.To be honest he had that good season in the PL but Suarez the year after came along, blew his season out of the water and produced the best season an individual has had in England for years since that year Ronaldo scored 40 something goals in all competitions.Bales season was very good but isn't that good in comparison to Suarez's season and other than goals would hardly say its much superior to Edens this year. Hazard is a better footballer than Bale, Bale's physical attributes help him a lot, take away Bale's strength, insane speed and stamina and hes a nothing player really. Hazard without that insane speed still has incredible close control and also the ability to see things only some players can see like Silva, like Messi, like Ozil.Wouldn't swap Hazard for Bale even if we got Varane as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Im seriously starting to doubt the 'blue engagement' if people want Eden to go. Ungrateful to say the least, even a touch of autism due to lack of understanding of what this would do to the team.Fuck me .... Bunch of scousers.No one wants him to leave for Bale or anyone for that matter but dismissing Bale season when it clearly was better is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hazard had great players around him while Bale nobody. How is that his fault Tottenham defense was and still is a joke. Just because Hazard is from our team doesn't mean he is the best in the history it's not even a competition from a random fan, one had 21 goals and 4 assist in 33 matches the other 13 and 8 assists in 34+ counting matches.Hazard has had better players but almost all have been in bad form in the 2nd half of the season! and dont act like Bale played with league 2 standard players he also had good players around him easily good enough to compete with almost every team in the league. and please dont bring stats into it because Hazard completely blows Bale out the water in that area also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 No one wants him to leave for Bale or anyone for that matter but dismissing Bale season when it clearly was better is absurd.your argument for Bale's season being better is that he carried Spurs to 5th (where they should have finished regardless) and because he scored 21 goals. Great logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 It is one of the main goals of teams like Atletico and Tottenham to to play in a style where their best player is showcased and can then be sold for huge sums. So it's not fair to compare Bale with Hazard. Bale might as well be a slightly more improved Berbatov, since he is now flopping at Madrid, just like Berbatov did at Utd. If Hazard played in that Real side he would destroy La Liga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 your argument for Bale's season being better is that he carried Spurs to 5th (where they should have finished regardless) and because he scored 21 goals. Great logic.You have big issues mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,957 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Comparing Bale and Hazard is a very tricky debate.You could steak a case that Bale's wonder season at Spurs was better than Edens for us this season. Taking into consideration the strength of the team around him and the goals he scored.Buti love Eden Hazard and I wouldn't swap him for anyone... Ever!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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