The Next Manager?

[OneMoSalah 8,797]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

I know Conte is still under contract and has the right the continue until he gets the sack but really though, he has never happy about how things are run at the club and has burnt some bridges with the players and I highly doubt that's going to change. So, why stay on and continue to torture yourself and everyone else, especially when we know he's just going to keep on moaning every week if he stays? Is he really that desperate to get the big payoff? How pathetic can he get?

Lets be honest, Antonio Conte or not, 9 million pounds is a lot of money to receive and lets not kid ourselves football is a business and as a manager if you can get 9 million pounds to not do your job for a year because you weren't wanted? Its hardly pathetic. If he doesn't want to leave then the club have to pay him that. That is a given and that is why contracts are contracts, he resigned the same contract last year for more money, it was a clever move, the club wanted to give him more money and he probably understood that with the history of the club in terms of managers he had to protect himself as much as anything else. Really its on the club more than anything for deciding to give him a pay rise.

How often do you see a coach actually leave at their own accord? And the whole pay off thing coaches do it the whole time. Every time we've sacked a coach over the last god knows how long how many have gone straight into work? Not many because they sit for a period of time, do fuck all and take wages. Its hardly anything new. Its just the club haven't had the balls to sack him, which is the most pathetic thing about this whole situation. I don't see how anybody can question Conte regarding this because he said he was dedicated to the club at the end of last season, last season was poor and its not only hurt the clubs reputation but also his, so why would he just quit? Regardless if he stays or goes, he wins because he either stays and has a top job (in terms of the clubs stature) still, with similar conditions to his first season (lower expectations, no CL, more time to train the players, more rest time etc) or he leaves and gets his pay for nothing and probably takes the full year to do whatever he wants to do.

Another thing is how disorganised pre-season will be, if the club really do want Sarri (everyone keeps saying oh it will be announced on Monday, then the next and the next and the next etc), then they have to move fast because it starts on Monday and for him to come after its started and change things  (no way him and Conte's methods are going to be identical, everyone has their own ways of doing things)? Its going to put a lot of pressure on him and the players to hit the ground running too with having not had a full pre-season, the same with recruitment, a full pre-season helps players integrate better. 

[Dimitr 488]

If this is true ,this is a good sign!

[dreamcfc 182]

This is getting ridiculous now, even if Sarri does come, which i'm now really starting to doubt, people are expecting this guy to come in mid way through a pre-season and suddenly transform our play, an appointment like Sarri will take some time, a full pre-season is a must. Absolutely pathetic, a move like this will cost the club much more than £9m if we have another bad season.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

You know what IF he comes, and is another Scolari (for example) this will be absolutely hilarious.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

4 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

You know what IF he comes, and is another Scolari (for example) this will be absolutely hilarious.

Lol

[Special Juan 27,454]

What a saga this is

[dreamcfc 182]

So... maybe it's Conte to stay after all.

Meaning Willian and maybe a few more of our best players out, Conte just turning up because he is contracted to do so and the board to sign some cheap replacements to fill numbers. possibly in for a worse ride than last season.

[Unionjack 7,531]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

I know there is a big payoff but like I said, is he really that desperate? Why continue to work at a place where you know you're not going to be happy? 

`Principles He doesn't SEEM like the kinda guy that money means fuck all to. But if he feels that the club,players let him down then I can imagine he would stand firm on what he believes in.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

2 hours ago, Costa19 said:

Picture is from last year i read on twitter 

Well that's the lads wearing the new training gear and there's one of the staff in the same grey top. Defo from today

[AK-3001 286]

3 hours ago, Dimitr said:

Also di marzio speaks on sky sports radio and anything he says there it doesn’t mean that he must   Put these quotes on his site. 

 

Secondly ,  even pedulla said that  this situation has a  deadline day (48h) , so I cant understand what’s your problem . 

 

You are too gullible and get influenced by Twitter too much. 

We're not getting anything out of this exchange between us. Let's bury it here. Just remember to put actual quotes from actual websites. You did the same with Kovacic and 100 million. It misleads people as much as it misleads you.

 

Peace. 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

I mean yes, Conte  has to be there today as he is contractually obligated to.  But we must not rule out him staying.  I have seen talk of Roman's yacht being in Capri with ADL, Jorginho being involved and the very reliable Carlo Alvino saying talks remain ongoing this weekend.   So it's not quite over despite Conte being there today, but expect him to stay, that way it lowers expectations slightly

[dreamcfc 182]

We can't rule out him staying, the real question is why would the club allow this to happen if things behind the scenes are as bad as made out.

I'd be happy with Conte to stay if all the issues were put to bed, its too late for that though.

If money is the real reason he hasn't been sacked yet, he should be gone, simple as that. Even if you look at it from a business view, we save money by not sacking him but just end up having another bad season next year... its going to cost more than 9million or whatever the fee is, surely the club can see that.

[Polo7 3,496]

Can’t see him staying. Surely the club would have come out and backed him when we were being linked with other managers. 

[dreamcfc 182]

13 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

Can’t see him staying. Surely the club would have come out and backed him when we were being linked with other managers. 

But there is no explanation as to why he is still here and ready for pre-season training lol.

[Jase 43,479]

36 minutes ago, dreamcfc said:

But there is no explanation as to why he is still here and ready for pre-season training lol.

Like others have said, he's still under contract and therefore, he's doing his job. Otherwise, he'll give the club an easy excuse to sack him.

[dreamcfc 182]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Like others have said, he's still under contract and therefore, he's doing his job. Otherwise, he'll give the club an easy excuse to sack him.

Yea I understand from Conte' point of view, he's got to do his job, im talking more from the clubs perspective, if the board don't want him as manager next season, why hasn't he been sacked already? I don't buy all this back-up just in case Sarri falls through nonsense, weather we get Sarri or not, if Conte is not in the future plans, he needs to go.

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Lets be honest, Antonio Conte or not, 9 million pounds is a lot of money to receive and lets not kid ourselves football is a business and as a manager if you can get 9 million pounds to not do your job for a year because you weren't wanted? Its hardly pathetic. If he doesn't want to leave then the club have to pay him that. That is a given and that is why contracts are contracts, he resigned the same contract last year for more money, it was a clever move, the club wanted to give him more money and he probably understood that with the history of the club in terms of managers he had to protect himself as much as anything else. Really its on the club more than anything for deciding to give him a pay rise.

How often do you see a coach actually leave at their own accord? And the whole pay off thing coaches do it the whole time. Every time we've sacked a coach over the last god knows how long how many have gone straight into work? Not many because they sit for a period of time, do fuck all and take wages. Its hardly anything new. Its just the club haven't had the balls to sack him, which is the most pathetic thing about this whole situation. I don't see how anybody can question Conte regarding this because he said he was dedicated to the club at the end of last season, last season was poor and its not only hurt the clubs reputation but also his, so why would he just quit? Regardless if he stays or goes, he wins because he either stays and has a top job (in terms of the clubs stature) still, with similar conditions to his first season (lower expectations, no CL, more time to train the players, more rest time etc) or he leaves and gets his pay for nothing and probably takes the full year to do whatever he wants to do.

Another thing is how disorganised pre-season will be, if the club really do want Sarri (everyone keeps saying oh it will be announced on Monday, then the next and the next and the next etc), then they have to move fast because it starts on Monday and for him to come after its started and change things  (no way him and Conte's methods are going to be identical, everyone has their own ways of doing things)? Its going to put a lot of pressure on him and the players to hit the ground running too with having not had a full pre-season, the same with recruitment, a full pre-season helps players integrate better. 

Look, I can understand why Conte is still around because he has the contract and has every right to stay on until the club decide to pull the plug - which they definitely should have but unfortunately, they are being imbeciles about this - but on the other hand, why continue in the job when you know you are not going to be happy? Why continue when you are not going to be committed? You said he was dedicated to the club last season...I can't agree with that at all. He pretty much spent the whole of last season moaning every week and failed to take responsibility for the things that went wrong. He made us play worse and even detached himself from the players because he couldn't be arsed anymore. I know 9 million is a lot and maybe I'm just being simplistic about this but does he really want to put himself in the same situation again next season? The club may not always back the manager in the right way but it isn't going to do Conte's reputation any favors if he has another poor season with us.

[Pizy 18,453]

Would there not have been some movement already if he was told a while ago he was staying? Surely we would've gotten one or two signings in by now. Otherwise, what in the actual fuck are we waiting for to enter the market?

The reason has to be because we're waiting for a new manager. I cannot fathom our board being dumb enough for it to be for any other reason.