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2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Moyes and Fat Sam are available.

Go for Simeone, I hear people craving a Diego Costa attitude on the pitch, lets get a lunatic in charge who fucks off the slackers who fight for their lives and that die on the pitch for him.

Conte started like that.  We broke him.  We break them all.  That's why we can't have nice things.

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Just now, Sideshow Luiz said:

Conte started like that.  We broke him.  We break them all.  That's why we can't have nice things.

I was hoping more like Simeone comes in and punches the board members.

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42 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I was hoping more like Simeone comes in and punches the board members.

YESSSSS!!!

I'm thinking as the Dons got 1 year left yeah??? So he will see it out and Sarri has been told this so will take the 1 year extra then come next summer.

Sounds feasible.

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The names going around now:  Aside from Jardim which would signal a completely different direction as a club, not just in style of play, but in regards to our transfer and youth policy, the other names don't give me any excitement, would rather stick with Conte.  If the the board keep him, they know he's going to moan all year unless they give him some pieces in the window, so not terrible.  The other names are Arteta-level exciting.

Also, when we got Conte, Sampaoli was a strong contender, why is he not anymore?  Clubs do this with transfers too.  Madrid had reportedly bought De Gea, but there was a fax problem.  Okay, 2-3 more windows have passed, if everyone was keen, why hasn't it happened?  

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1 hour ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

The names going around now:  Aside from Jardim which would signal a completely different direction as a club, not just in style of play, but in regards to our transfer and youth policy, the other names don't give me any excitement, would rather stick with Conte.  If the the board keep him, they know he's going to moan all year unless they give him some pieces in the window, so not terrible.  The other names are Arteta-level exciting.

Also, when we got Conte, Sampaoli was a strong contender, why is he not anymore?  Clubs do this with transfers too.  Madrid had reportedly bought De Gea, but there was a fax problem.  Okay, 2-3 more windows have passed, if everyone was keen, why hasn't it happened?  

Sampaoli manages Argentina i think mate.

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A lot o names being linked with the job. But if the job is advertised as "Head Coach" and not "Manager" I dont think we will draw the better candidates. A new guy, with a proven record, will wish to build his own side and not have players that are bought by the board dumped on him. If the likes of Enrique comes in, he will want full control on transfers, and after our disastrous dealings in the market this year who would blame him 

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reports that Sarri is still waiting on Chelsea who are set to sack conte after the fa cup final....

Except the pipe dream that is pochettino, sarri is the next best choice with jardin being OK too imo... don't want enrique or blanc, those would be disasters

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22 minutes ago, oldportblue said:

reports that Sarri is still waiting on Chelsea who are set to sack conte after the fa cup final....

Except the pipe dream that is pochettino, sarri is the next best choice with jardin being OK too imo... don't want enrique or blanc, those would be disasters

Why do you think Pochettino is a better choice than Sarri? Have you seen how Napoli play? Beautiful football. Potchettino is good but Tottenham don't really play pretty football.

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8 minutes ago, DDA said:

Why do you think Pochettino is a better choice than Sarri? Have you seen how Napoli play? Beautiful football. Potchettino is good but Tottenham don't really play pretty football.

Agreed, if we're going for a manager purely based on their style of football then Sarri is the best potentially available on the market by a mile.

Pochettino offers other positives (used to the league, will fuck up Spurs, etc) but he plays a far more balanced game. Spurs play good football but they aren't the great attacking force they're made out to be but they have Kane who scores an absolute boat load. 

If Sarri is still a possibility we should be pushing for it, because to me he seems the best option on the market that is realistically attainable.

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23 minutes ago, DDA said:

Why do you think Pochettino is a better choice than Sarri? Have you seen how Napoli play? Beautiful football. Potchettino is good but Tottenham don't really play pretty football.

 

9 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Agreed, if we're going for a manager purely based on their style of football then Sarri is the best potentially available on the market by a mile.

Pochettino offers other positives (used to the league, will fuck up Spurs, etc) but he plays a far more balanced game. Spurs play good football but they aren't the great attacking force they're made out to be but they have Kane who scores an absolute boat load. 

If Sarri is still a possibility we should be pushing for it, because to me he seems the best option on the market that is realistically attainable.

You're right, Sarri plays better football but I don't think that should necessarily be the number one criteria by which we pick a manager. Poch knows the prem inside out by now and has come really close to winning it on a tight budget. I think he would hit the ground running here and could sign us some nice players ready to compete and dominate in the premier league. Neither has really won anything of note and both are used to playing second/third fiddle to a dominant team in their league but I would choose pochettino based on familiarity with the league, brining through young talent and of course to piss of spurs lol.

Having said all that I would love Sarri here as well and no one really knows which one would do better at Chelsea in the end (although the fact pochettino has manager several years in the premier definitely gives him an advantage imo)

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20 minutes ago, oldportblue said:

 

You're right, Sarri plays better football but I don't think that should necessarily be the number one criteria by which we pick a manager. Poch knows the prem inside out by now and has come really close to winning it on a tight budget. I think he would hit the ground running here and could sign us some nice players ready to compete and dominate in the premier league. Neither has really won anything of note and both are used to playing second/third fiddle to a dominant team in their league but I would choose pochettino based on familiarity with the league, brining through young talent and of course to piss of spurs lol.

Having said all that I would love Sarri here as well and no one really knows which one would do better at Chelsea in the end (although the fact pochettino has manager several years in the premier definitely gives him an advantage imo)

I agree with you but Pochettino is a pipe dream in my opinion. We may have greater resources than Spurs both in terms of finances and our academy but we need far more work at the moment and we don't have anyone anything like Kane up front.

On top of that Spurs just won't let him come to us, simple as that.

At least with Sarri he would be realistic as a target if he doesn't commit to Napoli. If he does then I don't see any other stand out candidates for the job which is really worrying.

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50 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Agreed, if we're going for a manager purely based on their style of football then Sarri is the best potentially available on the market by a mile.

Pochettino offers other positives (used to the league, will fuck up Spurs, etc) but he plays a far more balanced game. Spurs play good football but they aren't the great attacking force they're made out to be but they have Kane who scores an absolute boat load. 

If Sarri is still a possibility we should be pushing for it, because to me he seems the best option on the market that is realistically attainable.

Ill go a step further, i don't think Spurs are great to watch atall. Them playing attacking football is a myth up there with Torres gives 100%.

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Don't understand the constant hate for a few names, especially Blanc. He's done well in his career, PSG are mental and I don't think there are too many managers that will get out of the club in a reputable manner from there. Yet Blanc did really well with them, especially in UCL. 

 

People are also forgetting that Enrique took over a dismantled Pep side. xavi was retiring, Alves left later and they were not winning trophies anymore. He's made mistakes in a few games for sure (and that's an area of concern), but there are games where he put out a team like a genius. Especially 6-1 against PSG and 4-0 away from home at Real Madrid without Messi. 

 

Sarri of course is the most attractive option of them all, but writing off names without understanding in what circumstances they took over their previous clubs and what they did with them isnt the way to go imo

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As for the newer, younger names. The higher risk high reward ones, they just won't work well at our club. The manager has much less power than the Board and the players. Players can just stop playing for him and the new manager with not so much history would be sacked in an instant when there's pressure on him. Players can just wheel him out of the club like they did with AvB and more importantly, even Mourinho. If this happens, the young manager won't be given half the time Mourinho got, to save the ship.

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8 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Sampaoli manages Argentina i think mate.

Didn't he manage Chile when we were interested?  

Conte was managing Italy, Sarri is managing Napoli.  Poch is managing Tottenham.  Jardim is managing Monaco.  Having a current job, doesn't really seem to be a hindrance to us being interested in a candidate.  

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