The Next Manager?

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

If/when the news breaks "Chelsea make formal contact with Derby" etc;  that is basically the endgame.   That process used to start at the beginning, nowadays it is done once you have already got the managers contract sorted.

 

Lampard and Chelsea I am almost certain, have already spoken, or still are

[Tomo 21,733]

20 hours ago, Alan Partridge said:

The only person I could see us getting who could grind us out a top 4 finish is Jose. It wouldn't be pretty though. 

He's lead his team out of the top four three out of the last four season's. He finished 6th with Zlatan leading the line for god sake.

Nothing against you but I'm genuinely stunned that there's so many people entertaining the idea of a Jose mark 3 after how it ended with us and United, it would see us away from challenging for years and years and years, will probably be as damaging as Souness's spell at Liverpool was,if not more so.

[manpe 10,861]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

He's lead his team out of the top four three out of the last four season's. He finished 6th with Zlatan leading the line for god sake.

Nothing against you but I'm genuinely stunned that there's so many people entertaining the idea of a Jose mark 3 after how it ended with us and United, it would see us away from challenging for years and years and years, will probably be as damaging as Souness's spell at Liverpool was,if not more so.

Exactly, only a mentally challenged club would step on the same rake twice. Jose is the last name of anyone I want to see back.

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

 

I'd love Lampard to do well but he really needs a few years experience first. 

I'd rather Jose who has won multiple league titles and a couple of champions league's than Lampard who has 0 experience at top level management.  

There really arent many options that I can see.

 

If we were close to bringing in ex Derby manager Gary Rowett who still has more experience than Frank, everyone would be losing their shit.

 It will be interesting to see how much patience Roman has especially if we get off to an awful start to the season. 

It's just a shit time for us. It's hard to be positive. 

Lost our best player, lost our manager and transfer banned. 

 

[LAM09 6,744]

He's lead his team out of the top four three out of the last four season's. He finished 6th with Zlatan leading the line for god sake.
Nothing against you but I'm genuinely stunned that there's so many people entertaining the idea of a Jose mark 3 after how it ended with us and United, it would see us away from challenging for years and years and years, will probably be as damaging as Souness's spell at Liverpool was,if not more so.

They see past glories and that is it.

[the wes 7,212]

11 hours ago, Jason said:

Lee Bowyer not extending his contract with Charlton. One of the names mentioned to replace Lampard at Derby apparently?

Rumoured JT is in the hat for the Derby job 

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Lol, if anyone could believe that by appointing current Lampard will bring us glory. Nothing wrong with saying appointing the likes of Allegri and even Jose will do too. You may hate the man from the bottom of your heart, but cannot denied that he is still one of the best. Remember how Jose Mark I ended, it was a mess too, and look what he did in his first and second season of Mark II. 

[Strike 7,217]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Interesting bits in this story by Matt Law. Claude Makelele's name is mentioned as someone who could take charge of the loan army, which will free up Eddie Newton or Paulo Ferreira to move to a coaching role with Lampard, Jody and Chris Jones. Cech also mentioned in director role. The backroom seems to be coming together quite nicely and these are the type of people who will be bolder in giving chances to guys like Tammy, Mount and Reece. 

[the wes 7,212]

13 hours ago, Jason said:

Lee Bowyer not extending his contract with Charlton. One of the names mentioned to replace Lampard at Derby apparently?

 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

10 hours ago, manpe said:

Exactly, only a mentally challenged club would step on the same rake twice. Jose is the last name of anyone I want to see back.

 

[El P. 1,354]

Are we doing anything long-term? It would be very counter-productive to bring Mourinho after Sarri, those are two opposite philosophies, and our board want us to play attacking football. And let's be honest, most of us do too.

It really baffles me that year after year we bring totally different managers, with different styles. That's why Drinkwater and Bakayoko couldn't even make a bench in Sarri system. Or even captain Cahill. Same way as Jorginho/RLC/Christensen/Mount wouldn't make it in Mourinho's setup. Kepa's great ball playing would be wasted under Mou too.

So I don't know what Lampard can bring us, no one knows actually. But I sure as hell don't want another turn-around. Let's stick to attacking, possession--high-press approach, or something close to that. After all, now we have players more suited for that kind of playing.

[Tomo 21,733]

6 hours ago, RoyalBlues said:

Lol, if anyone could believe that by appointing current Lampard will bring us glory. Nothing wrong with saying appointing the likes of Allegri and even Jose will do too. You may hate the man from the bottom of your heart, but cannot denied that he is still one of the best. Remember how Jose Mark I ended, it was a mess too, and look what he did in his first and second season of Mark II. 

Is he? Historically absolutely but is he really one of the best active managers in 2019? I see no evidence to suggest so, ever since his title in 2015 he's been stumbling across one disaster after another.

You wouldn't bring a washed up ex great player to next season's lineup based on what he did in the past, so why would you with a manager?

[Tomo 21,733]

9 hours ago, Alan Partridge said:

 

I'd love Lampard to do well but he really needs a few years experience first. 

I'd rather Jose who has won multiple league titles and a couple of champions league's than Lampard who has 0 experience at top level management.  

There really arent many options that I can see..

Needs to be looked at it context, given where we are right now just looking at trophy record is counter productive as it's likely going to take atleast two years to get challenging again and even that's only if we get almost everything right in the interim.

One of the main musts with these job now is who can bring through the next generation. We have the best set of youngsters in this country since the Busby Babes, would you really trust Jose to nurture them and be patient while they grow? Could you really imagine him patiently building for a few years while Pep and Klopp run away from sight at 1st and 2nd? I can't, his ego won't allow it, he'd lose his shit more than ever before. You think its bad seeing KDB and Salah at rivals, wait until homegrown Chelsea boys are doing so which could well be the case if we bring back Mourinho.

One of the big remits of this next few years has to be to bring through the cream of our current crop, and with that in context Lampard (especially given he has Jody Morris in his staff who will openly advocate giving these players chances) seems as safe a bet as any.

[11Drogba 2,000]

On 6/15/2019 at 0:13 AM, Tomo said:

How do you know that? Arsenal don't have a big budget and Auba and Lacazette aside have been pretty pants in the market for years. United throw money away at will.

They may sign players but there's no guarantee both or even either will significantly improve, infact (recent) history suggests they won't.

They don't really have to improve much, we are out of top 4 if we collect only three points less than this season (and if other teams don't improve and collect the same amount of points). I don't think we will collapse or anything like that but the transfer ban, Hazard leaving, several players being inexperienced at top level football... All these factors make Lampard's job the toughest one among all the managers Roman hired.

[the wes 7,212]

Sky Sports News understands Derby County have been contacted by a number of candidates enquiring about the manager's job at Pride Park - but all of them have been told there isn't a vacancy.

Derby have categorically refused to engage in any sort of discussion with the would-be managers or their representatives, so as not to undermine their current relationship with Frank Lampard, with whom they are still negotiating an improved and extended contract.

Derby owner Mel Morris said yesterday that they want Lampard to stay for the long term, and they are building their plans around him.

However, it's expected that Chelsea will soon make a move for Lampard to take over from Maurizio Sarri - though there has been no formal contact with Derby so far.

Chelsea's all-time leading scorer is currently away on holiday, but is in regular contact with his representatives over developments at Pride Park.

[zekinjo 449]

Gianfranco Zola has been offered an ambassadorial role by Chelsea, which he has rejected after being told by the club that they have no plans to keep him next season. @MattHughesTimes via: @TimesSport

Another day, another.....

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

2nd straight June we are managerless. 

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, the wes said:

 

That happened after all the drama yesterday?!