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Manchester United 'have ยฃ96m bid for Kalidou Koulibaly rejected'

The latest Man United transfer rumours link the club with Kalidou Koulibaly, Thomas Partey and Matthijs de Ligt.

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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-transfers-koulibaly-partey-16303542

Manchester United have been knocked back in their bid for Napoli defender Kalidou Koulibaly, reports in Italy say.

Unitedย are in the market for a centre-back for a second summer in a row, and have been linked withย Koulibalyย as a solution to the long-term problem position.

After a season where no dominant central defensive pairing has emerged for United, managerย Ole Gunnar Solskjaerย is hoping to succeed where Jose Mourinho couldn't and bring in reinforcements in that position.

And now Gazzetta dello Sport reporter Nicolo Schiraย claimsย the club have had a โ‚ฌ110m (ยฃ96.4m) bid rejected by Napoli.

Schira claims Napoli chairman Aurelio De Laurentiis has no interest in selling Koulibaly, and a release clause of โ‚ฌ150M (ยฃ131.5m) will only be available 'from 2020.'

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Kalidou Koulibaly Produces The Best Goal-Line Clearance Of The Season

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31 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

What a strike. Imagine the slack Zouma would get for an own goal....oh wait

The best (worst) part of this own goal is the story of the game. Napoli were 3-0 down but managed to come back to 3-3.

And then in the stoppage time, you have this own goal :Dย 

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3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Not just this, look what Higuain did to him for second goal. KK is overhyped and certainly overpriced.ย 

overpriced yes

over-hyped, naw

he has been a BEAST for years

but he turns 30 right after next season ends

so not worth the ยฃ100m plus the poison dwarf will demand

IF he was 23, 24, and at the level he isย now, I would pay ยฃ125m plus for him

he and VVD are de Ligt are streets ahead of any other CBs on the planet at the moment

I have watched them allย dozens of times, thisย is not some highlight reel bullshitย talk

the true bullshit is Wikipedia STILL listing KKย at 1.95m tall, when he is only around 1.87m, 1.88m tall

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after those 3 CB's, who are impossible to buy (or not worth the price due to KK's age)

come the ones we need to grab at least one (I would would prefer two) of

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Josรฉ Gimรฉnezย 
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Marquinhosย  ย ย 
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Milan Skriniarย  ย 

Alessio Romagnoliย  ย 

Ibrahima Konatรฉย ย  ย 

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I don't care if they cost ยฃ140m to ยฃ170m or so for two of them (some pairs would not even be 140m I think)

Rudiger is near WC when fully fit, and 3 WC CB's, with great rotationย (think Conte's Juve) are a ramrod

IF we do not get at least one of those I am going to go bonkers (there are a couple others I might accept, but those 5 are the best remotely available ones on the planet IMHO, and some will be insane hard pulls even at that)

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wild card isย Samuel Umtiti, but he looks a shell after his injury (hope he doesn't go the Zouma route, but it is not looking that great atm for me) I do not like that gamble

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5 hours ago, Vesper said:

overpriced yes

over-hyped, naw

he has been a BEAST for years

but he turns 30 right after next season ends

so not worth the ยฃ100m plus the poison dwarf will demand

IF he was 23, 24, and at the level he isย now, I would pay ยฃ125m plus for him

he and VVD are de Ligt are streets ahead of any other CBs on the planet at the moment

I have watched them allย dozens of times, thisย is not some highlight reel bullshitย talk

the true bullshit is Wikipedia STILL listing KKย at 1.95m tall, when he is only around 1.87m, 1.88m tall

ย 

after those 3 CB's, who are impossible to buy (or not worth the price due to KK's age)

come the ones we need to grab at least one (I would would prefer two) of

ย (RM will never sellย Raphaรซl Varane now, same for Bayern with Lucas Hernanadez and Shitty with Laporte)


Josรฉ Gimรฉnezย 
ย ย 
Marquinhosย  ย ย 
ย 
Milan Skriniarย  ย 

Alessio Romagnoliย  ย 

Ibrahima Konatรฉย ย  ย 

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I don't care if they cost ยฃ140m to ยฃ170m or so for two of them (some pairs would not even be 140m I think)

Rudiger is near WC when fully fit, and 3 WC CB's, with great rotationย (think Conte's Juve) are a ramrod

IF we do not get at least one of those I am going to go bonkers (there are a couple others I might accept, but those 5 are the best remotely available ones on the planet IMHO, and some will be insane hard pulls even at that)

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wild card isย Samuel Umtiti, but he looks a shell after his injury (hope he doesn't go the Zouma route, but it is not looking that great atm for me) I do not like that gamble

The question is how realistic are those transfers?

Romagnolli seems to be a very good defender. I am not so sure how he would handle the physicality of the PL, but he has potential. The problem is that he renewed his contract a year ago and he had offers from the PL that he rejected. This summer, Barcelona could not get him after they failed with the De Ligt transfer. I donยดt see the transfer happening, especially with the player being happy at Milan.

Skriniar. Seems to be a good defender, but now with Conte, it will be pretty tough to get him because if Inter would sell him,Conte would kill the Inter board^^. I donยดt see that happening and he probabyly likes how Inters developtment is going right now. They are getting better and better under Conte.

Marquinhos: He is not the tallest CB and he is not that strong. Andreas struggles sometime with strong strikers and I would not want another one that struggles with that problem

Ibrahima Konate: I only watcheda highlight video of him and he really impressed me. He has everything you need as a CB. I asked some Bundesliga experts of mine and they said that they rate himhighly and that he is developing every season.ย  I rhink we should go for him. A huge offer and Leipzig would let him go to Chelsea and we are no Bundesliga club, so that would be the best for both parties. Konate also would have here franch native in Kante and he is probably also a fan of Kante ( who is not a fan of Kante? :D) . I just hope that our Board knows this guy. After Emanelo left, I donยดt know who our main scout is. Marina canยดt be the one^^.

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6 hours ago, Vesper said:

overpriced yes

over-hyped, naw

he has been a BEAST for years

but he turns 30 right after next season ends

so not worth the ยฃ100m plus the poison dwarf will demand

IF he was 23, 24, and at the level he isย now, I would pay ยฃ125m plus for him

he and VVD are de Ligt are streets ahead of any other CBs on the planet at the moment

I have watched them allย dozens of times, thisย is not some highlight reel bullshitย talk

the true bullshit is Wikipedia STILL listing KKย at 1.95m tall, when he is only around 1.87m, 1.88m tall

For the money Laurentiis want for him, i will want someone more well-rounded, like Van Dijk. Koulibaly is average in aerial duel when i watched him up against Real Madrid 3 seasons ago. Further stats to back up my claim :

https://i.imgur.com/vxGoBEF.png

https://i.imgur.com/Hweq9H7.png

Here when compare to Cahill. who almost always managed over 3 aerial per game, Koulibaly aerial duel certainly a big weakness in his games. Serie A players can be overrated as well, you can look at Rugani for reference - this guy could have cost us 45m or more thanks to Sarri obsession with signing players used to work with him :D

And if you compare him to Van Dijk, Koulibaly look pathetically average for his 120m price tag, so no :D

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48 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

The question is how realistic are those transfers?

Romagnolli seems to be a very good defender. I am not so sure how he would handle the physicality of the PL, but he has potential. The problem is that he renewed his contract a year ago and he had offers from the PL that he rejected. This summer, Barcelona could not get him after they failed with the De Ligt transfer. I donยดt see the transfer happening, especially with the player being happy at Milan.

Skriniar. Seems to be a good defender, but now with Conte, it will be pretty tough to get him because if Inter would sell him,Conte would kill the Inter board^^. I donยดt see that happening and he probabyly likes how Inters developtment is going right now. They are getting better and better under Conte.

Marquinhos: He is not the tallest CB and he is not that strong. Andreas struggles sometime with strong strikers and I would not want another one that struggles with that problem

Ibrahima Konate: I only watcheda highlight video of him and he really impressed me. He has everything you need as a CB. I asked some Bundesliga experts of mine and they said that they rate himhighly and that he is developing every season.ย  I rhink we should go for him. A huge offer and Leipzig would let him go to Chelsea and we are no Bundesliga club, so that would be the best for both parties. Konate also would have here franch native in Kante and he is probably also a fan of Kante ( who is not a fan of Kante? :D) . I just hope that our Board knows this guy. After Emanelo left, I donยดt know who our main scout is. Marina canยดt be the one^^.

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Out of all those target you suggest, why dont include Niklas Sule as well, perhap if Bayern still want CHO badly enough, we can try a CHO + money deal. Conte wanted him 2 years ago and we already willing to paid more than what Bayern offered for him. That guy is build like a tank, tall, strong and still quite fast, already experienced at the highest level. I would say if we break the bank for a defender then i would pick him over these 5 you mentioned above

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Welcome! Just what we needed.ย ๐Ÿ™‚

Koulibaly is one of only a few CBs that could have replaced Rรผdiger and not be a downgrade. My biggest worry is how will he adapt coming from Italy, but looking at how defenders tend to excel at Chelsea, I worry aboutย that much less thanย if he was an attacker. All the stories about his mentality and leadership indicate thatย he will get on just fine here.

I'm liking how our backline is looking - a nice mix of experienceย and youth, quality, physicality, hunger, leadership... Just need to get one more CB and a RB to complete it.

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6 hours ago, Kong said:

How long have we waited for this guy to finally wear our shirt!!!!

I have wanted him here since mid season 2014/2015, when he showed, after the Genk to Napoli transfer (a steal for them at only around ยฃ7m), that he was indeed aย Big 5 league level beast CB

he should be going into his 8th season with us

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look at that 2015/16 disaster team's (10th place!) CB's

their ages then areย listed

he would have made a MASSIVE differenceย starting then

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what disastrousย summer and winter transfer windows that season too

pure dogshit, save for Pedro, and to a far lesser extent,ย Asmir Begoviฤ‡

ยฃ23.4m for Baba! that is closing in onย ยฃ29m now in mid 2022 quid due to inflation over the past 7 years

https://www.officialdata.org/uk/inflation/2015?amount=23400000

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32 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I have wanted him here since mid season 2014/2015, when he showed, after the Genk to Napoli transfer (a steal for them at only around ยฃ7m), that he was indeed aย Big 5 league level beast CB

he should be going into his 8th season with us

ย 

look at that 2015/16 disaster team's (10th place!) CB's

their ages then areย listed

he would have made a MASSIVE differenceย starting then

8f8bb4836560a03a69245c6fba848948.png

ย 

what disastrousย summer and winter transfer windows that season too

pure dogshit, save for Pedro, and to a far lesser extent,ย Asmir Begoviฤ‡

ยฃ23.4m for Baba! that is closing in onย ยฃ29m now in mid 2022 quid due to inflation over the past 7 years

https://www.officialdata.org/uk/inflation/2015?amount=23400000

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Tbf we tried to sign him really hard but the poison dwarf was reluctant so we unearthed his Senegal teammate djilobodji. We even made a profit on himย 

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26 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Tbf we tried to sign him really hard but the poison dwarf was reluctant so we unearthed his Senegal teammate djilobodji. We even made a profit on himย 

I recall one of those past attempts we supposedly offeredย ยฃ58m from the start, but it turns out Marina tried to lowball the poison dwarf with a ludicrous ยฃ38m initial offer, which enraged him and he ended up telling us to fuck off when we actually met his initial price later on.

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