Chelsea Transfers

[King Kante 1,643]

42 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

I wouldn’t be disappointed to sign Lukaku because he’s miles better than what we have, that said, it would leave a bit to be desired.

personally, I would take a shot at Ronaldo, even if that’s for a season and then activate Haaland’s release clause. No guarantee he would come to us, but ultimately, as a stop gap I would still take Ronaldo over Lukaku. Pure finisher and capable of interchanging, but also ruthless winning attitude that our young lads need more of. Juve doesn’t want him, they may not have CL due to ban, he won’t cost the world in terms of transfer fee and I would honestly take a shot at someone who is known to keep themselves in peak physical condition and still want to win more.

Look at the striker problem again next summer when Haaland is available or elsewhere.

Personally I would prefer to give Timo another crack than buy Lukaku. As for CR7 pretty sure he is on record saying he wouldn't play a English side not named Man Utd. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

23 hours ago, Thor said:

Can someone point out the negatives to me about getting a player like Traore really cheap? Is he not an ideal backup at RWB?

I think it's worth bearing in mind that when Traore arrives at a club everyone is initially impressed but before too long he's benched and not long after that his club is willing to listen to offers.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

12 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think it's worth bearing in mind that when Traore arrives at a club everyone is initially impressed but before too long he's benched and not long after that his club is willing to listen to offers.

Traore is basically Willian on a very resolute steroids regimen but with worse shooting. Flashy but totally ineffective. But his power and pace gives him an aura that immediately makes defenders panic. It is a super long shot but if TT can teach him the basics of football he could be a decent RWB backup. I don't think it is worth the hassle tho.

[DH1988 1,348]

32 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Personally I would prefer to give Timo another crack than buy Lukaku. As for CR7 pretty sure he is on record saying he wouldn't play a English side not named Man Utd. 

Timo is always going to play on the left side though right? Hmm realistic destinations for Ronaldo otherwise? PSG? Doubtful. I think it’s worth a punt considering you know what you’re getting, same as T Silva.

Dreaming though, I know.

[Vesper 30,224]

35 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Personally I would prefer to give Timo another crack than buy Lukaku. As for CR7 pretty sure he is on record saying he wouldn't play a English side not named Man Utd. 

Yes, only Manure.

[Vesper 30,224]

6 hours ago, R2D2 said:

Does it really matter if we don't need Sancho? The alternative to that is spending the same amount on someone with the worst touch in professional football.

Lukaku's first touch is massively improved. I saw about 20 if his games this season. You simply cannot claim it is not vastly improved. There are other reasons to say no to a buy, but that is not one IMHO.

[R2D2 368]

 

[R2D2 368]

Imagine if this is actually true and we get Lukaku, not only we waste the money but actually help others as well.

 

Edited June 1, 2021 by R2D2

[DH1988 1,348]

United need so much more than a few quid from us, long may Ole reign there 🤣

[Fernando 6,585]

I rather spend money on Lewandowski then Lukaku. 

[Superblue 6,372]

It's probably in the very unrealistic bracket like Haaland and Kane, but there have been a few rumours that Lewandowski wants to try a new challenge, he's even admitted it himself without directly saying he wants to leave Bayern. Pretty sure we were here with him a couple of years ago so I do take it with a pinch of salt for now that he may be angling for a new contract but it's also not outside the realms of possibility at this point in his career having won everything he could at Bayern.

I know he's nearly 33 and any investment would be dead money in terms of sell on value but this isn't 2012 where we need to rebuild an ageing squad. We are well stocked with a younger core in the squad that maybe we can take the risk with someone performing at a peak level.

For me he's the best striker in the world at the moment and if anything just seems to keep getting better. If you got 2-3 top years out of him and he fired us to a league or even another Champions League title then he could well cover the cost. It would very much depend on what Bayern would ask for in such a deal, but if he did push them to leave I'd love Chelsea to be in for him. Someone like him could be, and more than likely is, the difference between us and City in a league title race.

[Mário César 1,284]

I think some of you are being maybe to harsh with Lukaku and I think it's hard to look for a better option than him, but well, maybe you are right and I'm wrong... who knows?

[DH1988 1,348]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Lukaku's first touch is massively improved. I saw about 20 if his games this season. You simply cannot claim it is not vastly improved. There are other reasons to say no to a buy, but that is not one IMHO.

His team play and first touch +1 definitely agree he has grown as a footballer under Conte. 
 

what concerns me about Lukaku, you look at his goals and most come inside the box, we create those chances sure, but also Serie A defending is comical. Unsure if it’s just this year or because I’ve watched more A games than usual due to being interested in Juve/Inter, but my God, it is a farce in terms of marking and knowing where your man is. I don’t doubt he will get goals, I’d wager that a lot of strikers would, it’s whether he’s the right type of striker for us af perhaps he is, interested to know others opinions. I guess against teams who sit back he’s an option to go short and lay off to MF like Drogs used to do. 
 

*edit* comical is harsh, but you tend to hold it to a certain standard because it’s Italy and it’s just not good from what I’ve watched.

Edited June 1, 2021 by DH1988

[Fernando 6,585]

7 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

It's probably in the very unrealistic bracket like Haaland and Kane, but there have been a few rumours that Lewandowski wants to try a new challenge, he's even admitted it himself without directly saying he wants to leave Bayern. Pretty sure we were here with him a couple of years ago so I do take it with a pinch of salt for now that he may be angling for a new contract but it's also not outside the realms of possibility at this point in his career having won everything he could at Bayern.

I know he's nearly 33 and any investment would be dead money in terms of sell on value but this isn't 2012 where we need to rebuild an ageing squad. We are well stocked with a younger core in the squad that maybe we can take the risk with someone performing at a peak level.

For me he's the best striker in the world at the moment and if anything just seems to keep getting better. If you got 2-3 top years out of him and he fired us to a league or even another Champions League title then he could well cover the cost. It would very much depend on what Bayern would ask for in such a deal, but if he did push them to leave I'd love Chelsea to be in for him. Someone like him could be, and more than likely is, the difference between us and City in a league title race.

Apparently we are after him. 

This will be a money better spent then Lukaku. 

Bayern Munich’s Robert Lewandowski remains “open” about his future amid Chelsea links

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2021/5/31/22461865/bayern-munich-robert-lewandowski-remain-open-future-transfer-pini-zahavi-real-madrid-Chelsea-fc

[DH1988 1,348]

7 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

It's probably in the very unrealistic bracket like Haaland and Kane, but there have been a few rumours that Lewandowski wants to try a new challenge, he's even admitted it himself without directly saying he wants to leave Bayern. Pretty sure we were here with him a couple of years ago so I do take it with a pinch of salt for now that he may be angling for a new contract but it's also not outside the realms of possibility at this point in his career having won everything he could at Bayern.

I know he's nearly 33 and any investment would be dead money in terms of sell on value but this isn't 2012 where we need to rebuild an ageing squad. We are well stocked with a younger core in the squad that maybe we can take the risk with someone performing at a peak level.

For me he's the best striker in the world at the moment and if anything just seems to keep getting better. If you got 2-3 top years out of him and he fired us to a league or even another Champions League title then he could well cover the cost. It would very much depend on what Bayern would ask for in such a deal, but if he did push them to leave I'd love Chelsea to be in for him. Someone like him could be, and more than likely is, the difference between us and City in a league title race.

Let’s say we did get him, what formation are we looking at? We’d have to stick with a back 3 right? Rumours suggest TT wants to go back 4, though it’s speculation, but it makes sense being in the market for a ball playing RCB.  

 

[Superblue 6,372]

1 minute ago, DH1988 said:

Let’s say we did get him, what formation are we looking at? We’d have to stick with a back 3 right? Rumours suggest TT wants to go back 4, though it’s speculation, but it makes sense being in the market for a ball playing RCB.  

 

I think he'd slot into the side as it currently is as a focal point striker but one that is also very capable of bringing others into play. He'd be about as good a goal scorer as it gets and I'm certain he'd finish a lot of the chances we create that go begging. 

Werner and Havertz have the flexibility that they can play in the other attacking spots alongside a more out and out striker so it shouldn't impact on their importance within the squad but it also allows us not to flog someone like him to death like Spurs do with Kane as we have other options, which would hopefully prolong him playing at the top level.

[DH1988 1,348]

Havertz actually causes us an issue, his best games have come centrally as a false 9. Whenever he is shunted out to the wing, our team flow is just awful, there’s no rhythm or inter changing movement and he picks the ball up back to goal waaaaaay away. So wasted. When he has played up top, the movement between the front was finesse to watch against City, note that Ruben and Stones had an immense season btw, and the movement just pulled them apart.

Lewan 

Timo-Havertz 

Mount-Kante

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if we were to shell out for Lewan, forget his age as we’d have to reshuffle for any striker right? I’d rather move to a back 4, Mount is wasted next to Kante and nobody brings a ball forward like Kova, except Kante.

Tough one, biggest issue for me this season was no plan B against teams who went 1-0 up and sat back coupled with our right wing issues.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

Traore is basically Willian on a very resolute steroids regimen but with worse shooting.

Are we still officially in season 2020/21? Depending on whether we are or not this is either a late winner for sentence of the season, or an early contender that it's going to be very, very hard to beat. 🙂

Every one of the lad's professional coaches will have tried to teach him the basics of football. Tried and failed. Too late now for Adama to learn would be my take.

[Superblue 6,372]

2 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

Havertz actually causes us an issue, his best games have come centrally as a false 9. Whenever he is shunted out to the wing, our team flow is just awful, there’s no rhythm or inter changing movement and he picks the ball up back to goal waaaaaay away. So wasted. When he has played up top, the movement between the front was finesse to watch against City, note that Ruben and Stones had an immense season btw, and the movement just pulled them apart.

Lewan 

Timo-Havertz 

Mount-Kante

Chilwell-Rudi-Silva-Dave-James

if we were to shell out for Lewan, forget his age as we’d have to reshuffle for any striker right? I’d rather move to a back 4, Mount is wasted next to Kante and nobody brings a ball forward like Kova, except Kante.

Tough one, biggest issue for me this season was no plan B against teams who went 1-0 up and sat back coupled with our right wing issues.

I would agree about Havertz, I think his best position is the false 9 role and there's very real potential there to build the whole attack around him.

The problem is whether the club can risk going into the season with essentially Havertz and Werner the main two striking options. You have to believe that both will do better next season and I've said on a few posts that we don't necessarily need a player to be getting 20+ goals. But if we haven't got that then we probably need at least 3 in the 10-15 bracket and another couple in the 8-10 bracket. It would require everyone in attack (Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Mount and Ziyech) all to step their games up with regards to goal scoring. It certainly isn't impossible but either way we probably need another attacking option to help share that burden.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

Does our training staff own enough baby oil to seriously consider bringing in Adama?