Chelsea Transfers

[OneMoSalah 8,808]

hace 23 horas, gdlk dijo:

Better we give 1 more season to Timo and then if he flops we look for starting CF. At the moment top strikers are few and only possible one is Lukaku, who doesnt suite TTs model of dootball. 

No.

We need a CF regardless of Timo picking it up next season or not. It will be a disaster going into another season without a top number 9. 

Werner isn’t even a natural number 9, he probably suits playing off the sides or with a number 9 as a focal point. Although thats not an excuse considering his goal return this season and the nature of a lot of his performances.

A top CF is a must. We will be better with a full pre season with Tuchel for sure but we still need a CF who can get 15-20 goals minimum every season. Anyone who thinks we can do without one needs to think it through, why have we dropped so many points the last 18 months? Because of a lack of a clinical CF and a poor defence. Tuchel has sorted the backline but it’s clear we need more in attack.

Also re Kane, I doubt we will ever get a deal out of Levy. Remember when we tried to buy Modric? Modric was desperate to go but even then Levy was adamant he wouldn't be coming here. United made a bid bigger than Reals for Bale as well but he refused to do business with them also. Negotiations with Spurs will be near impossible for Kane I would imagine.

Plus whilst he and Lukaku are both excellent CFs, I do wonder if they would be a better investment than Haaland. Haaland particularly, could be our CF for 10 years. I suppose any of the three would be a huge improvement. Even Aguero on a free also.

Edited May 1, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[Jase 43,479]

32 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

We will be better with a full pre season with Tuchel for sure

Have people really not thought this out properly? lol

[OneMoSalah 8,808]

hace 2 minutos, Jas dijo:

Have people really not thought this out properly? lol

I dont know what your meaning here haha?

[King Kante 1,519]

2 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Where we may be able to entice Spurs into making a deal for Kane is by offering Tammy within it.

If Levy has any sense he'll realise there's a big overhaul needed at Spurs and they may have to strip things back and rebuild for the next couple of years. They have so much deadwood in their squad, and that 'young' team they had a few years ago was left to grow old together, most of them now in their late 20's/early 30's very few fully realising the potential that they may have had at one point.

Tammy is clearly not on Kane's level but he would offer them a young, homegrown striker who has shown that he is capable of scoring goals in the Premier League and would likely be a low risk signing with the potential to kick on and develop.

If we offered £80-100m + Tammy, it would be interesting to see whether Spurs would be willing to come to the table.

I don't see an issue with Kane agreeing to join Chelsea. Recent interviews suggest that he wants to win trophies and if the opportunity to join Chelsea presented itself, I don't think he'd worry about loyalty to Spurs.

When was the last time we paid market leading rates for a player over 28 by the time the next season roles around? Sheva? 

[OneMoSalah 8,808]

hace 9 minutos, King Kante dijo:

When was the last time we paid market leading rates for a player over 28 by the time the next season roles around? Sheva? 

We signed Filipe Luis aged 28, Fabregas aged 27, David Luiz aged 29, Mendy aged 28, Ziyech aged 27. Silva on a free aged 35.

Someone who is 27/28 will be a good buy as they are in their prime. I would prefer Haaland but its a dream as opposed to a reality I would think. 

As long as its the right player who’s signed never mind the age or the fee. This squad needs a bit of experience and killer instinct in the top end of the pitch.

Edited May 1, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[Jase 43,479]

11 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I dont know what your meaning here haha?

I mean with the Euros happening this summer, do people really think Tuchel will have a proper pre-season with the entire squad? 

[OneMoSalah 8,808]

hace 1 minuto, Jas dijo:

I mean with the Euros happening this summer, do people really think Tuchel will have a proper pre-season with the entire squad? 

Ah maybe not. Still he will get a pre season of sorts as opposed to having to work around implementing ideas and systems with a game every 3 days. Will be better for us and should see more improvement I would hope. 

[Vesper 29,142]

Lukaku is 28 in 12 days

so he will be 29 before next season ends

£90m for one full year under 30

is not my cuppa

and Lukaku is not like Lewa or Benzema or Drogba or Suarez, not full of guile and a natural scorer

he is a pure physical beast and relies on pace and bursts

with that huge frame, I wager he starts to slow down by 31 or so in large manner

look at Aubameyang at Arse

all pace before

turned 31

boom

now pace is going going soon far gone, as his quality

and he is not lugging around 90-100kgs or so

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by Vesper

[King Kante 1,519]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

We signed Filipe Luis aged 28, Fabregas aged 27, David Luiz aged 29, Mendy aged 28, Ziyech aged 27. Silva on a free aged 35.

Someone who is 27/28 will be a good buy as they are in their prime. I would prefer Haaland but its a dream as opposed to a reality I would think. 

As long as its the right player who’s signed never mind the age or the fee. This squad needs a bit of experience and killer instinct in the top end of the pitch.

Yeah, but none of those were at top market rates. All of those players were had for reasonable fees that you can swallow over 3-5 years. Kane at £100m+ isn't. 

[OneMoSalah 8,808]

hace 1 hora, King Kante dijo:

Yeah, but none of those were at top market rates. All of those players were had for reasonable fees that you can swallow over 3-5 years. Kane at £100m+ isn't. 

Aye but they weren’t exactly cheap either, throw their wages, agent fees etc on top too. Particularly Luiz, Ziyech and Fabregas who all cost over £30m. 

Kane for near or over 100m plus is still gonna be good value for money. He scores 25 goals a season and has now started assisting more too. Plus he’s one of best in his position. And he already plays in the league, speaks the language (well just about) and would come in straight away to hit the ground running. For 4/5 years, the cost will not be that bad and realistically would be a good investment. Same with Lukaku. 

The age thing shouldn’t matter regarding his fee because he is quality. I get Haaland would be a better long term investment but at the same time that also gives BVB the chances to demand more as he’s younger. Like with Dembele. 

[Milan 17,870]

3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

speaks the language (well just about)

I like Kane a lot but this made me seriously chuckle while eating a pie 🤣

[OneMoSalah 8,808]

hace 17 minutos, Milan dijo:

I like Kane a lot but this made me seriously chuckle while eating a pie 🤣

I’d love to hear him trying to say something very quickly like “She sells sea shells down by the seashore” 😂 he’d definitely struggle 

[King Kante 1,519]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Aye but they weren’t exactly cheap either, throw their wages, agent fees etc on top too. Particularly Luiz, Ziyech and Fabregas who all cost over £30m. 

Kane for near or over 100m plus is still gonna be good value for money. He scores 25 goals a season and has now started assisting more too. Plus he’s one of best in his position. And he already plays in the league, speaks the language (well just about) and would come in straight away to hit the ground running. For 4/5 years, the cost will not be that bad and realistically would be a good investment. Same with Lukaku. 

The age thing shouldn’t matter regarding his fee because he is quality. I get Haaland would be a better long term investment but at the same time that also gives BVB the chances to demand more as he’s younger. Like with Dembele. 

I am not disagreeing with any of the pros of Kane. I am just pointing out it is never going to happen as his profile is one that we aren't going to stump up for. If he where £50-£60m then for sure I could see us doing it, but £100m+? No way, not going to happen, it would be completely contrary to everything the club has done in the transfer market post Torres (some could even argue, post Sheva.) 

Furthermore, Kane has a dodgy ankle, that isn't going to get any better so where you may expect another 4-5 years out of such a player, his could be a lot less. 

Personally, I am so confident we will not sign Harry Kane (unless we can get him for a fee under £60m) that I will give you £10 via PayPal if we sign him for one above that. Feel free to flag this comment. 

[OneMoSalah 8,808]

hace 47 minutos, King Kante dijo:

I am not disagreeing with any of the pros of Kane. I am just pointing out it is never going to happen as his profile is one that we aren't going to stump up for. If he where £50-£60m then for sure I could see us doing it, but £100m+? No way, not going to happen, it would be completely contrary to everything the club has done in the transfer market post Torres (some could even argue, post Sheva.) 

Furthermore, Kane has a dodgy ankle, that isn't going to get any better so where you may expect another 4-5 years out of such a player, his could be a lot less. 

Personally, I am so confident we will not sign Harry Kane (unless we can get him for a fee under £60m) that I will give you £10 via PayPal if we sign him for one above that. Feel free to flag this comment. 

I still think with Levy being Levy it will be near impossible for us in particular. 

The price I do agree with I just meant it would be a good investment though. At 28, given he remains fit he would be a top signing. 

His ankles only dodgy because every time he gets close to being back they rush him in too soon. Mourinho did it for the best part of 2 seasons. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

I still think with Levy being Levy it will be near impossible for us in particular. 

The price I do agree with I just meant it would be a good investment though. At 28, given he remains fit he would be a top signing. 

His ankles only dodgy because every time he gets close to being back they rush him in too soon. Mourinho did it for the best part of 2 seasons. 

Ankle injury seems to be a common thing with Kane, even before Mourinho.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/harry-kane/verletzungen/spieler/132098

[OneMoSalah 8,808]

hace 7 minutos, Jas dijo:

Ankle injury seems to be a common thing with Kane, even before Mourinho.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/harry-kane/verletzungen/spieler/132098

Looks that way but still ultimately hasn’t contributed to a huge amount of missed time by the looks of the stats there. Missed 75 games in nearly 10 seasons. Suppose its food for though but I think if you get 30-35 games your going to get 20-25 goals. Like Costa also, missed a few games here and there but if hes playing 80% of the time you know what your getting. 

[R2D2 368]

If we don't get Haaland hope we go into next season with Havertz, Werner and Aguero/Giroud and instead use the money to buy a replacement for Ziyech.

 

Edited May 2, 2021 by R2D2

[Tomo 21,733]

I really thought my days of panicking we are about to resign Lukaku were over.