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17 hours ago, Pizy said:

Ekitike feels to me like he’d be a lot like Jackson in that they will do a lot of really nice things, they’re great to have in your squad as a top club, but not good enough to be THE guy to lead you to the very top.

But tbf the only striker available this summer that would be that finishing piece are Osimhen and Gyokeres who are almost certainly impossible for us.
 

So with that being the case would you rather have Ekitike, Seśko, or Delap? Ekitike looks to have the highest ceiling/natural talent. Delap has the tenacity and work ethic that’s perfectly suited to the PL as we’ve seen. Seśko would surely be MUCH more of a box presence than Nico and therefor would probably do well in our setup. I don’t know which I’d prefer.

If we're shopping in the latter category.

Ekitke for me. With him and Estevao next season, there should be plenty of excitement in our play if nothing else.

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On 05/05/2025 at 13:52, LAM09 said:

I feel like this will turn out to be another Grealish/Phillips signing. It would be a stupid move for him in footballing terms.

 

On 05/05/2025 at 15:03, Pizy said:

Agree completely. He looks like your stereotypical “big fish in a small pond” English player who looks very good at a smaller profile club where everything revolves around him but will then disappear at a club where expectations are sky high and you’re just another cog in the machine.

I’d be delighted as a rival team if City go for him instead of Wirtz for example who I thought for sure Pep would go after. 

It would make sense for City to target Eze. He is in his prime. Also imo I think he is a better player than MGW. I think Eze is a top player and will be interesting to see how many teams go for him this summer. But if City are looking at MGW, then defo think Eze is a better option. Will likely be cheaper too.

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22 hours ago, King Kante said:

This actually makes some sense. However, if Lavia stays fit I want to see more of Caicedo as the inverted RB rather than in CM. 

The situation I am looking at most with CM currently is Enzo. He is finally fulfilling his potential but Real look as if they're sniffing about and we all know what happens when they do that.

we quoted them 200m euros for Enzo

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EXCL: Chelsea the first suitor to officially present project to Dean Huijsen

Chelsea are pushing the most right now

https://siphillipstalkschelsea.substack.com/p/excl-Chelsea-the-first-suitor-to

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The 20-year-old is not the only centre back that the club have on the radar for the summer, and there is still a chance that they sign two centre backs, with the second being a more versatile defensive option such as Jorrel Hato of Ajax, who the club are also ready to move in on with foundations being laid there.

Huijsen has many potential suitors, but the three main ones are Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal.

As reported here, The Blues have held positive talks with the reps of Huijsen in the last few weeks, leading to this latest exclusive news from our sources….

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On 06/05/2025 at 13:46, Pizy said:

Ekitike feels to me like he’d be a lot like Jackson in that they will do a lot of really nice things, they’re great to have in your squad as a top club, but not good enough to be THE guy to lead you to the very top.

But tbf the only striker available this summer that would be that finishing piece are Osimhen and Gyokeres who are almost certainly impossible for us.
 

So with that being the case would you rather have Ekitike, Seśko, or Delap? Ekitike looks to have the highest ceiling/natural talent. Delap has the tenacity and work ethic that’s perfectly suited to the PL as we’ve seen. Seśko would surely be MUCH more of a box presence than Nico and therefor would probably do well in our setup. I don’t know which I’d prefer.

Considering the amount they'd command, I would stay clear. I watched him fairly often this year when he was part of a good partnership with Marmoush, but he reaped the rewards from that duo rather than being the dominant force. If we REALLY must go after second, third, or fourth tier options, I'd go for Delap for two reasons: he would be the cheapest and has a year of PL experience behind him.

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2 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Considering the amount they'd command, I would stay clear. I watched him fairly often this year when he was part of a good partnership with Marmoush, but he reaped the rewards from that duo rather than being the dominant force. If we REALLY must go after second, third, or fourth tier options, I'd go for Delap for two reasons: he would be the cheapest and has a year of PL experience behind him.

Yeah, Delap feels like the safest of the names. He’s not a striker signing that I’d be excited about necessarily but if he’s who we decide on I won’t be angry or anything. At least you’ll know with him that even when he isn’t scoring he’s an almighty pain in the ass for defenders.

But again the question remains whether he’s the sort of #9 that elevates us to where we want to be. Is he a striker who we can eventually see hitting those Drogba/Harry Kane/RvP/Aguero numbers and consistently winning matches? Or is he just simply someone who is interchangeable with Jackson and will rotate in and out with him putting up similar numbers?

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43 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Yeah, Delap feels like the safest of the names. He’s not a striker signing that I’d be excited about necessarily but if he’s who we decide on I won’t be angry or anything. At least you’ll know with him that even when he isn’t scoring he’s an almighty pain in the ass for defenders.

But again the question remains whether he’s the sort of #9 that elevates us to where we want to be. Is he a striker who we can eventually see hitting those Drogba/Harry Kane/RvP/Aguero numbers and consistently winning matches? Or is he just simply someone who is interchangeable with Jackson and will rotate in and out with him putting up similar numbers?

Without a doubt, he will be a rotation option. We will be in a similar position and have the same conversation in a year because I don't see him dropping numbers that are anywhere near to Palmer's first season (22).

You don't get the calibre of CF's you've listed on £150kpw max.

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6 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Without a doubt, he will be a rotation option. We will be in a similar position and have the same conversation in a year because I don't see him dropping numbers that are anywhere near to Palmer's first season (22).

You don't get the calibre of CF's you've listed on £150kpw max.

I really disagree on the CF front. 

Every player that gets talked about that we should get for crazy money carries great risk. History shows that as well. All these big spend signings for us, and other teams usually don't end up being what they were. 

People just look at goal tallies and xg performance and the jazz. It is a lot more nuanced than that. The reason Haaland and Salah bang in goals for fun is due to the sheer amount of opportunities they get playing in a high octane system - and they'll have some stinkers and miss, but they'll put what they need to away. They are workhorses who get in the right positions. 

Delap is a good pick up. He plays for a shite team where opportunities are rare, but he is a workhorse, causes all kinds of problems for defences all the time, can do more than just score and is decent with build up. He has put away 12 in 33 games. 

Salah wasn't some big money buy or a guy knocking in the amount he was prior. Kane wasn't expected to be what he was and was doubted even after 2 or 3 seasons putting it together. Aguero's stats weren't otherworldy in terms of goalscoring prior to coming to the EPL. Have a look how long it took for RVP to put it together.

The most expensive signings for strikers in EPL are Lukaku twice, Nunez, Isak and Morata... Then you have the likes of Torres, Auba, Haller, etc. Tell me how many of these "surefire" big money signings actually worked... A fickle position reliant on how the team plays and builds up, so you're better off going for a player with the attributes to score big when things are clicking. There will always be seasons when strikers over perform in shite teams but reality is, its a position that fluctuates greatly. 

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29 minutes ago, Thor said:

I really disagree on the CF front. 

Every player that gets talked about that we should get for crazy money carries great risk. History shows that as well. All these big spend signings for us, and other teams usually don't end up being what they were. 

People just look at goal tallies and xg performance and the jazz. It is a lot more nuanced than that. The reason Haaland and Salah bang in goals for fun is due to the sheer amount of opportunities they get playing in a high octane system - and they'll have some stinkers and miss, but they'll put what they need to away. They are workhorses who get in the right positions. 

Delap is a good pick up. He plays for a shite team where opportunities are rare, but he is a workhorse, causes all kinds of problems for defences all the time, can do more than just score and is decent with build up. He has put away 12 in 33 games. 

Salah wasn't some big money buy or a guy knocking in the amount he was prior. Kane wasn't expected to be what he was and was doubted even after 2 or 3 seasons putting it together. Aguero's stats weren't otherworldy in terms of goalscoring prior to coming to the EPL. Have a look how long it took for RVP to put it together.

The most expensive signings for strikers in EPL are Lukaku twice, Nunez, Isak and Morata... Then you have the likes of Torres, Auba, Haller, etc. Tell me how many of these "surefire" big money signings actually worked... A fickle position reliant on how the team plays and builds up, so you're better off going for a player with the attributes to score big when things are clicking. There will always be seasons when strikers over perform in shite teams but reality is, its a position that fluctuates greatly. 

Salah cost around £34m in 2017 (coming off 19 goals for Roma). You can figure out what that fee would be in 2025 (most likely around £80m+ min). Using him or Haaland are such lazy comparison when you look at their output at a similar age in top competitions compared to Delap.

Names you listed - Lukaku twice, Nunez, Isak and Morata... Then you have the likes of Torres, Auba, Haller 

Auba at Arsenal earlier on: 17/18 , 18/19 & 19/20 . Did he fail? Did Torres fail at Liverpool?

Out of the rest, Isak is the only one had real potential considering him being a wonderkid at one point and finding his feet again during his time in Spain. The rest seemed like duds from a country mile for one reason or another.

The last part rings true to a degree. However, our style of play isn't reliant on a technical genius. Someone like Giroud would be almost a dream right now. If our board weren't so against signing anyone over 22, such a player that isn't raved about might be waiting to be picked up (Kvaratskhelia should be the prime example of what good scouting can achieve). 

 

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2 hours ago, Thor said:

Salah wasn't some big money buy

adjusted for inflation, Pool paid almost £60m in today's quid for him them

the most money they had ever spent on a player up to that point in time

and almost exactly the same as Barca paid for Raphinha in today's pound sterling

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3 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Salah cost around £34m in 2017 (coming off 19 goals for Roma). You can figure out what that fee would be in 2025 (most likely around £80m+ min).

you forgot the add-ons

he ended up costing £44m in 2017 quid (June 22, 2017 FOREX rate £'s to €'s was around .88 pounds to the euro on that date) as his purchase price was 50m euros, all inclusive, when the deal was signed) which is almost £60m (£59.15m) now, adjusted for inflation

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Jadon Sancho suffers blow after ‘submitting transfer request’ to Chelsea and Manchester United

https://metro.co.uk/2025/05/08/jadon-sancho-suffers-blow-submitting-transfer-request-Chelsea-manchester-united-23045127/

Jadon Sancho has suffered a blow after ‘submitting a transfer request’ to leave both Chelsea and Manchester United this summer.

Sancho was hoping to revive his stuttering career at Chelsea – the club he supported as a child – after joining the Blues on a season-long loan last summer.

Manchester United spent over £70m to sign Sancho in 2021 but the winger endured a hugely difficult period at Old Trafford.

The England international struggled to produce his best form at the chaotic Premier League giants and fell out of favour with former manager Erik ten Hag, who criticised his performances in training.

Sancho was motivated to prove United wrong when he joined Chelsea at the start of the season but his struggles have continued in west London, where he has scored just three league goals.

When Chelsea signed Sancho on loan, they agreed to make the move permanent this summer for a fee of between £20-25m.

However, it was revealed earlier in the year that Chelsea could terminate that agreement if they paid £5m in compensation to Manchester United.

Despite the presence of a get-out clause and some underwhelming performances, Chelsea were still believed to be intending on signing Sancho on a permanent transfer at the end of the season.

But the situation was complicated further by reports claiming Sancho was himself questioning his future at Stamford Bridge.

A return to Manchester United appears off the table but Sancho reportedly expressed a desire to return to his former club Borussia Dortmund.

It was at Dortmund that Sancho first caught the eye of Europe’s elite after he came through at Manchester City’s academy.

Sancho enjoyed a second spell at the Bundesliga club last season, helping Dortmund reach the Champions League final while on another loan away from United.

Unfortunately for Sancho, Borussia Dortmund have ‘ruled out’ signing him for a third time and are not interested in a summer deal, according to Bild.

It is claimed that while Dortmund have no interest in re-signing Sancho, other clubs in Germany would be open to securing his signature if he was willing to take a pay-cut on his hefty wages.

Chelsea boss Enzo Maresca has been reluctant to discuss Sancho’s long-term future at the club but Shaun Wright-Phillips believes the Blues should keep him at the club.

‘It seems like Chelsea buy with potential in mind and what players can possibly be or become,’ the former Chelsea and England winger said.

‘We all know Jadon’s potential. If Chelsea worked the way Chelsea worked, they would normally sign him, because they know what he’s capable of and they’ve seen him do it.

‘But I think what’s not helping at the minute is that he’s not only scoring, but he’s not creating enough.

‘If Chelsea are taking risks on the amount of players they are taking risks on, I don’t think he’s a bad one.

‘We know what he’s already done in a game. If he makes his way back, you’ve got a player on your hands.’

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crazy wild card

veteran CF, 29yo, and has 25 goals in only 2,384 minutes so far this season, 19 of those are league goals (in only 1,565 minutes, all 19 goals came in his last 21 Bundesliga games played, in only 1,336 minutes)

also he had 4 goals against two of the top 3 Bundesliga 2 sides in the Pokal

plus a CL goal

and a Super Cup goal

injury history is the big issue, BUT he only missed 1 game all this season due to injury, he just did not play that many minutes in Leverkusen's system

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