Chelsea Transfers

[killer1257 3,282]

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Only makes sense if we sell Kante

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[King Kante 1,450]

10 minutes ago, Jason said:

Talk about only hearing what you want to hear. 

That said, I have heard is whole family are massive Chelsea fans so it would be a bit like one of us playing for West Ham and hoping we could play for us. We already know that when we released him he was distraught. 

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Talk about only hearing what you want to hear. 

lol Don't need to be so serious...

[Pizy 18,322]

Milinkovic Savic went a bit off the radar after he was heavily linked with United a year or so ago. But apparently he has come back and been phenomenal this season for Lazio.

He's immensely talented and could become world class but I'm not sure we'd be after him since he plays the same position as Kova/RLC/Barkley.

[Rapkun 668]

Rice always looked more of a CB than a 6 to me. I'm not convinced yet that he can play in midfield for a top club but I like the idea of buying him for the defense. Then if necessary he could be a backup in midfield. I know WHU fans think he's an excellent CB.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[killer1257 3,282]

 

So why should we sign a player that played only 20 matches as a CB his whole life?

Rather sign Milenkovic

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[King Kante 1,450]

40 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

This calls for Vesper!

[Vesper 28,296]

12 minutes ago, King Kante said:

This calls for Vesper!

Potential Rice move could see Chelsea loan out Tomori to gain regular football

https://theathletic.com/1911714/2020/07/06/declan-rice-chelsea-tomori-west-ham/

Chelsea’s desire to sign Declan Rice to play in defence next season is inevitably going to cause a little concern among their current group of centre-backs and Fikayo Tomori has more reason to be perturbed than most.

After a strong start to life under coach Frank Lampard, starting 14 Premier League games before the turn of the year, he has played once in the league in 2020, with another two starts coming in the FA Cup.

Injuries have played their part. A hamstring injury sustained in training before the restart to the campaign last month has meant he has sat out all five of Chelsea’s post-lockdown matches.

It is understood he has been back in full training for over a week and is feeling ready to feature again. However, Chelsea don’t want to rush things so the England international will not feature against Crystal Palace on Tuesday night either. The trip to Sheffield United four days later is deemed a more likely return.

Should Chelsea beat Manchester United in their FA Cup semi-final on July 19, that leaves Tomori with a maximum of seven games (coming back from 3-0 down against Bayern Munich in their last-16 Champions League tie is surely mission impossible?) in which to feature before 2019-20 comes to an end.

Even then, opportunities may be hard-fought. Andreas Christensen, Antonio Rudiger and Kurt Zouma are more match sharp having played over the last few weeks. With the battle for Champions League places and the FA Cup still rumbling on, Lampard will be reluctant to make more changes to a backline already lacking rhythm and confidence.

This has been quite a turn of events given Tomori signed a five-year deal as recently as last December. Back then, he was a regular in the team, yet now Chelsea are looking at bringing in Rice as a means to improve the goals against column next season. So what does this mean for Tomori?

Well, one thing that should be ruled out straight away is the centre-half leaving Stamford Bridge permanently. Lampard and the club value him too much for that to happen. He is an outstanding young talent and proved that with mature displays against Liverpool, Ajax and Tottenham Hotspur.

However, it is believed that Chelsea will consider sending him out on loan next season so that he can play more regularly. There is an appreciation of his vast potential — it is why he was given such a long deal after all — but more game-time is key for his development.

News that Tomori is available is bound to arouse great interest due to the form he showed in the first half of the season, which led to him winning his first England cap against Kosovo in November.

Sources have suggested that Tomori could even be offered to West Ham United as a means of trying to help negotiations over Rice, who won’t come cheap, especially if David Moyes’ side retain their Premier League status.

Even if an agreement for Rice doesn’t materialise, defence is an area of the squad Lampard wants to improve. Should another centre-back arrive, Tomori will likely look for a loan move anyway.

It shouldn’t be forgotten that the 22-year-old was in advanced talks with Everton last August only for the move to be called off when Lampard decided David Luiz was no longer part of his plans.

With ambitions to represent England at the European Championship next summer, Chelsea and Tomori would want assurances of playing time before committing to a move elsewhere.

In February, The Athletic discussed possible reasons for his omission from the side. Back then, the statistics suggested he was weakest of the four in the air, with the figures showing Zouma had a record of winning 75.7 per cent of his aerial battles, Rudiger 58.3 per cent, Christensen 57.7 per cent, and Tomori 55 per cent.

There was also a feeling among the coaching staff that a few more mistakes had crept into his game and that he was guilty of losing concentration. The day after the article was published, Tomori was recalled to face Bournemouth. But he was substituted just past the hour mark following a disappointing performance.

The decision came seven minutes after he was caught hopelessly out of position during the build-up to Bournemouth’s second goal in the 2-2 draw. However, one observer told The Athletic how Lampard was heard shouting things like “wake up” in his direction on numerous occasions throughout the contest.

When asked earlier that month about his decision to omit Tomori from the team, Lampard explained: “I have four centre-backs to choose from, so most weeks, two of them are unhappy. And then people question you when you stick with a back two or back three. There is competition in that area.

“With Fiks, he always has to train at the top level. That goes for all of the young players. When you are out of the team, however much it hurts, you need to show a good attitude and train very well. At the moment, he is showing those things and he has a long career ahead of him at this club, without a doubt. It’s been more about selection issues.”

Those selection issues will only become more complicated should Rice arrive in the next window. Don’t be surprised if Tomori is playing for someone else temporarily to improve his chances of playing at Chelsea over the long term.

[King Kante 1,450]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Milinkovic Savic went a bit off the radar after he was heavily linked with United a year or so ago. But apparently he has come back and been phenomenal this season for Lazio.

He's immensely talented and could become world class but I'm not sure we'd be after him since he plays the same position as Kova/RLC/Barkley.

SMS is a very good player and he is one I have touted a few times. However, there are a few draw backs and I think if he was brought it would require quite a lot of shuffling in CM. 

Firstly, the good. SMS is quite technical and has two very good feet. This allows him to shift the ball quickly and he can pass/shoot with both fairly easily. Further, he is a pretty big unit and is good at defending set pieces and can intercept fairly well, while he can do the miles. 

Now for the bad. He is slow, and when I say slow I am talking Alonso level slow. Now this isn't as big an issue for a CM as it is for a LB but I am not sure people around here would be happy with it. Second is that he has the habit of allowing some games to pass him by, this has not been am issue so much this season, apart from the odd game, but last season it happened a lot. 

For me, he has a lot of characteristics that we need from a No.6, however I wouldn't say he is prefect as he isn't going to go beast mode like a Essien or Yaya. Further, to accommodate him I would say we would need to sell Kante and Barkley, while I would also question if we could then afford a another big name player such as Harvetz. 

For me, to accommodate him it would require a lot of movement of players; unless Roman really is partying like it is 2004. 

For instance, this is one of the only ways I see it working: 

No4 - Jorgi, Gilmour 

No6 - SMS, Kova 

No8 - Mount, RLC 

However, even then, I personally think Mount is developing into a No.6 rather than a No.8, so even if we buy SMS we may quickly find we are stacked at No.6 and lacking at No.8. 

[Pizy 18,322]

Weird how all of our CB's except for AC are seemingly expendable. I'd rather keep Tomori than him tbh.

[King Kante 1,450]

4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Weird how all of our CB's except for AC are seemingly expendable. I'd rather keep Tomori than him tbh.

AC keeps his position as he is the only one that has any positional sense. Whilst AC is without doubt a massive wimp for a CB, he is also the only one of the four that you can rely on not to go on a walk about mid-match. 

[Jype 6,398]

13 minutes ago, King Kante said:

AC keeps his position as he is the only one that has any positional sense. Whilst AC is without doubt a massive wimp for a CB, he is also the only one of the four that you can rely on not to go on a walk about mid-match. 

Positional sense doesn't matter if he's still soft as fuck defending.

Would much rather keep Tomori around.

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[King Kante 1,450]

4 minutes ago, Jype said:

Positional sense doesn't matter if he's still soft as fuck defending.

Would much rather keep Tomori around.

I don't disagree but the option is, have a soft as shit CB in front of the attacker, or have two CB's showing the attacker inside on their strong foot or chasing 10 yards behind. 

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7 hours ago, Jason said:

 

He is probably just a backup option in case something goes wrong with Kai.

[NikkiCFC 7,891]

Also i said a couple of months ago that most realistic scenario is we just loan Fik again instead of selling any other CB.