Chelsea Transfers

[YorkshireBlue 3,345]

5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

They’ve done more good than bad in terms of buys for me so far. Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Palmer, Gusto, Nico Jackson. Fought to keep Colwill when he could’ve easily moved. Gotten rid of a bunch of players who needed to go. And I’m very optimistic about several of this summer’s buys. Yes, there have been some serious mistakes but everything I named above far outweighs the errors, imo.

This season is 100% make or break for them in terms of getting the supporters on their side, though. 

Kids hate their parents when they dont buy them the toys they want, such is life.

[robsblubot 3,595]

42 minutes ago, Pizy said:

They’ve done more good than bad in terms of buys for me so far. Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Palmer, Gusto, Nico Jackson. Fought to keep Colwill when he could’ve easily moved. Gotten rid of a bunch of players who needed to go. And I’m very optimistic about several of this summer’s buys. Yes, there have been some serious mistakes but everything I named above far outweighs the errors, imo.

This season is 100% make or break for them in terms of getting the supporters on their side, though. 

I don't think Lavia should be added to any success list until he plays for a season esp considering he apparently had some issue at the time we signed him. Nkunku would also deserve a mention on the "let's hope" list.

We have historically signed good players, but ultimately a group of players is evaluated based on their success. Reckon it is just too early to know how well the transfers will turn out to be, esp given the development time involved with many of them.

Edited July 24, 2024 by robsblubot

[Vesper 31,110]

20 minutes ago, Pizy said:

They’ve done more good than bad in terms of buys for me so far. Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Palmer, Gusto, Nico Jackson. Fought to keep Colwill when he could’ve easily moved. Gotten rid of a bunch of players who needed to go. And I’m very optimistic about several of this summer’s buys. Yes, there have been some serious mistakes but everything I named above far outweighs the errors, imo.

This season is 100% make or break for them in terms of getting the supporters on their side, though. 

I am beyond frustrated with them for 2 main postions

GK

CB

so many shit buys and shit decisions

and we all know a WC keeper and WC CBs can take a club VERY far

look at Juve over the years when they were banging out titles like a machine

[robsblubot 3,595]

36 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Kids hate their parents when they dont buy them the toys they want, such is life.

Heh, I'd actually say the same for the people who celebrate young (development) signings instead of silverware. To each his own, I guess. 🤷‍♂️

[Duppy Conqueror 1,584]

On 23/07/2024 at 13:36, LAM09 said:

I thought Santos had already agreed to re-join Strasbourg, but look who's on the list.

That reasoning clearly doesn't apply to all.

That is something i found odd and expressed that at the time but only one example of a player already destined to go on loan that is going on the tour. Maybe because he's going to our sister club it's easier to do,where as others that we intend to loan out to other clubs it's better to keep them back. 

[NikkiCFC 8,516]

Broja over Fofana is also odd. 

[Pizy 19,280]

54 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

I don't think Lavia should be added to any success list until he plays for a season esp considering he apparently had some issue at the time we signed him. Nkunku would also deserve a mention on the "let's hope" list.

We have historically signed good players, but ultimately a group of players is evaluated based on their success. Reckon it is just too early to know how well the transfers will turn out to be, esp given the development time involved with many of them.

I listed Lavia because I think he’s going to be an amazing player for us in the long term. At just 20 years old I’m not that concerned about his injuries last season. I’m choosing to believe it was just shit luck unlike Fofana or Reece for example who have chronic issues.

43 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I am beyond frustrated with them for 2 main postions

GK

CB

so many shit buys and shit decisions

and we all know a WC keeper and WC CBs can take a club VERY far

look at Juve over the years when they were banging out titles like a machine

I guess I’m just much more optimistic going into the season about our defense. Call it naive hope, perhaps.

But with the personnel we have and the tactics we’ll use I think the CB’s and defenders will be much less exposed. 

[LAM09 7,091]

27 minutes ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

That is something i found odd and expressed that at the time but only one example of a player already destined to go on loan that is going on the tour. Maybe because he's going to our sister club it's easier to do,where as others that we intend to loan out to other clubs it's better to keep them back. 

As another member mentioned, it might just be a numbers thing. I noticed Caicedo joined up with the squad which was slightly surprising considering his Copa involvement.

I have no idea how is on holiday or not at this point.

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Edited July 24, 2024 by KEVINAA

[mkh 760]

Chelsea want to try to get a deal done for Samu Omorodion for around €55m...

🔵 #CFC target expected to cost closer to €80m as things stand...

[@JacobsBen]

[mkh 760]

Chelsea are doubling down on their youth policy. They have taken the criticism on board but ultimately feel this approach will put them ahead of their rivals.

The oldest player Chelsea have discussed for striker is Jonathan David, 24 years old. Chelsea are sticking to their policy no matter what anyone says.

(@NizaarKinsella)

Edited July 24, 2024 by mkh

[mkh 760]

Chelsea had been talked up to coax Oscar Bobb away from the Etihad as they did Cole Palmer last summer.

{Manchester Evening News}

[ZAPHOD2319 4,954]

 

[Pizy 19,280]

3 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Would be great if they did from our POV. They’d have one LB who can’t stay fit in Shaw and one who can’t defend in Alonso. It was a weakness of his when he was here and he’s now several years older so it surely got worse.

[robsblubot 3,595]

15 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I listed Lavia because I think he’s going to be an amazing player for us in the long term. At just 20 years old I’m not that concerned about his injuries last season. I’m choosing to believe it was just shit luck unlike Fofana or Reece for example who have chronic issues.

I guess I’m just much more optimistic going into the season about our defense. Call it naive hope, perhaps.

But with the personnel we have and the tactics we’ll use I think the CB’s and defenders will be much less exposed. 

Fair enough, but "amazing for us" is a tall order considering what this club has accomplished in the past. Not long ago we had prime Kante having MotM after MotM performances in CL knockout stages. We won a CL outplaying Real Madrid and then City. Nowadays we don't even play CL.
From experience here, but the idea that a player who is 20-22 and, is a good player, will automagically become much better later is simply wrong.

I'm probably with you on D, and am more worried about the attack esp our dependency on Nkunku remaining fit.
On the other hand, Maresca demands different characteristics from his D players, I also fail to see that in our group.

[Pizy 19,280]

8 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Fair enough, but "amazing for us" is a tall order considering what this club has accomplished in the past. Not long ago we had prime Kante having MotM after MotM performances in CL knockout stages. We won a CL outplaying Real Madrid and then City. Nowadays we don't even play CL.
From experience here, but the idea that a player who is 20-22 and, is a good player, will automagically become much better later is simply wrong.

I'm probably with you on D, and am more worried about the attack esp our dependency on Nkunku remaining fit.
On the other hand, Maresca demands different characteristics from his D players, I also fail to see that in our group.

There’s a reason Klopp, Arteta, and ourselves all wanted him and why City didn’t want to sell him for under £50m. He’s a super talent in a position that everyone is desperate to find a top player in. That we spent £50m on him after already spending mega money in midfield says how much we rate him.

[Vytis33 1,378]

10 minutes ago, mkh said:

Chelsea want to try to get a deal done for Samu Omorodion for around €55m...

🔵 #CFC target expected to cost closer to €80m as things stand...

[@JacobsBen]

80M??  wtf

[robsblubot 3,595]

Just now, Pizy said:

There’s a reason Klopp, Arteta, and ourselves all wanted him and why City didn’t want to sell him for under £50m. He’s a super talent in a position that everyone is desperate to find a top player in. That we spent £50m on him after already spending mega money in midfield says how much we rate him.

Don't get me wrong, I haven't seen enough of him (Lavia), so I trust the multiple opinions stating that he's a very good player.

My point is that from that "very good player" (for his age) to an elite player who gives you a competitive advantage against CL or PL powerhouses should not be taken for granted however promising a player may be.

[OneMoSalah 9,104]

27 minutes ago, mkh said:

Chelsea are doubling down on their youth policy. They have taken the criticism on board but ultimately feel this approach will put them ahead of their rivals.

The oldest player Chelsea have discussed for striker is Jonathan David, 24 years old. Chelsea are sticking to their policy no matter what anyone says.

(@NizaarKinsella)

Ahead of our rivals? We were ahead of our rivals and comfortably the main team behind City & Liverpool (albeit more a cup team arguably).

Where we are now? It’s not great, is it? 4 managers later still unsure what this squad or team is. A squad that cost over £1 bn.  Saying that, we probably still have the same problem positions we had about 3 years ago too: GK, CB, CF.

Clearlake and the two sporting director boys have lost the plot. 

Edited July 24, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[Vesper 31,110]

Chelsea

https://thedailybriefing.io/i/146917488/Chelsea

• Chelsea are ready to sell Trevoh Chalobah for £30-35m. Chelsea believe they have depth in the CB and RB position; difficult decision not to call him for US tour but plan clear. Three Premier League clubs plus clubs playing in European football have made initial contact.

• Could Mikel Merino to Chelsea be a realistic transfer to watch out for this summer? Fabrizio Romano has the latest details in his exclusive column.

• Cesare Casadei to Fiorentina? Reports in Italy suggest this possible move for the Chelsea midfielder.

• Andrey Santos will return to Chelsea after spending 2024/25 season on loan with Strasbourg, no doubts. Clear plan as Chelsea senior sources deny any buy option clause included in loan move. Santos will do US tour under Enzo Maresca then travel to sign for Strasbourg again.

• Enzo Maresca: “I don’t think there will be problems with Enzo Fernandez when he returns. There were no bad intentions, I spoke with Enzo. It’s all clear now. It’s all clarified by the player and the club, so that's it. Enzo has apologised, there’s no problem at all.”

• Maresca on Trevoh Chalobah being left out of US tour: “It’s always sad to leave a player out... but I’m here to take decisions. We have Wes Fofana, Disasi, Tosin there. Also, we have Acheapong who’s doing fantastic.”

• Maresca on Christopher Nkunku’s role: “Nkunku can play everywhere. He’s doing very well already. He can play number 9, winger, attacking midfielder... he can play everywhere. I see football with player able to play in several positions. I want players to develop and play in several positions.”