TheHulk 2,482 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Only thing these clowns didn't ruin yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,702 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Previous "the next Mbappe" we bought has just lost his place in the shity Ukranian national team. This comparisions hardly ever come up good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 17 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I've been supportive of their decisions after the initial stumbles, which anyone can be guilty of presented with a shiny new toy but this is a genuine shock, very interested to see the reasons why. Cue the "they sell all our players" but in reality we lose a ton to lower leagues, no contracts renewals etc. so I'm interested in a bit of a deeper reasoning then that. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) 44 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I'm stunned by this. I posted a comment sometime in the last 24 hours in which I said that I wondered what Neil Bath thought of how Cobham youngsters were being managed by the club. I suppose this gives us a clue. The one thing I can say for the owners on this is that it shows a great deal of self confidence and a splash of ruthlessness. Not so long ago they were talking about Bath in a way which lead me to believe they agreed with my assessment that he was the club's most valuable employee. BlueCo keep rolling the dice. If they come up good all will be forgiven. If they don't all the owners have to lose are a few billions. We, on the other hand, have our hearts on the line. From a practical point of view I imagine they will have paid up Neil Bath's contract and placed him on gardening leave. Edited July 3, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 10 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I'm stunned by this. I posted a comment sometime in the last 24 hours in which I said that I wondered what Neil Bath thought of how Cobham youngsters were being managed by the club. I suppose this gives us a clue. The one thing I can say for the owners on this is that it shows a great deal of self confidence and a splash of ruthlessness. Not so long ago they were talking about Bath in a way which lead me to believe they agreed with my assessment that he was the club's most valuable employee. BlueCo keep rolling the dice. If they come up good all will be forgiven. If they don't all the owners have to lose are a few billions. We, on the other hand, have our hearts on the line. From a practical point of view I imagine they will have paid up Neil Bath's contract and placed him on gardening leave. I don't like to fall into conspiracy theories, like them wanting to get rid of anything and everything they inherited under Roman but it makes it that much harder to scoff at this when people like Neil Bath and Jim Fraser are leaving the club. I've been of the belief for years that the academy should be providing the squad depth for the first team, so we can concentrate on just buying players solely to focus on improving the starting XI, at most first 15-16 players in the squad. It's pretty clear that this ownership do not share the same views. For everything good that Roman did for this club, it gets more and more worrying that the biggest mistake he may have ever made here was locking this ownership into the club for at least 10 years. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,284 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Just now, Superblue said: I don't like to fall into conspiracy theories, like them wanting to get rid of anything and everything they inherited under Roman but it makes it that much harder to scoff at this when people like Neil Bath and Jim Fraser are leaving the club. I've been of the belief for years that the academy should be providing the squad depth for the first team, so we can concentrate on just buying players solely to focus on improving the starting XI, at most first 15-16 players in the squad. It's pretty clear that this ownership do not share the same views. For everything good that Roman did for this club, it gets more and more worrying that the biggest mistake he may have ever made here was locking this ownership into the club for at least 10 years. the good thing is that we only have 8 years left with this board Leeds nil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mário César said: the good thing is that we only have 8 years left with this board The bad thing is seeing what they've already managed to do in just 2 years. Strike, Blue Armour and OneMoSalah 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 I imagine new owners are happy with academy because it brings pure profit which helps us massively. If that is all that we get from academy it's still worth it because let's be honest. Who from academy last 10 or so years was good enough for Chelsea starting 11? Only Reece and he is also not providing much last 2 seasons. Colwill may become another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: I imagine new owners are happy with academy because it brings pure profit which helps us massively. If that is all that we get from academy it's still worth it because let's be honest. Who from academy last 10 or so years was good enough for Chelsea starting 11? Only Reece and he is also not providing much last 2 seasons. Colwill may become another one. All of these are arguable cases I grant you but; Abraham, Ake, Guehi, Livramento, Mount, Musiala, Rice, and Tomori are a few who could be discussed. All of these qualify as solid squad players at the least. That's not a bad record when you consider the level at which we were competing, and competing against sides which are basically drawn from the entire globe. Remember there are geographic restrictions concerning which players can be recruited by club academies. No club, not even the supergiants, will produce a world class first XI featuring a majority of homegrown players except in very rare circumstances. Blue Armour and Superblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 7 hours ago, TheHulk said: £42m for him is a fucking STEAL we paid a combined £140m for CuCu and permawrecked Fofana ffs!!!!!!! Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 601 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) Joe Shields and Sam Jewell are set to be in charge of building a new management structure, after the losses of Neil Bath and Jim Fraser. (@liam_twomey) BREAKING: Chelsea are preparing to name Estoril U23 and former Benfica academy coach, Filipe Coelho as the new Development Squad Coach. (@chelseayouth) Neil Bath has decided to leave Chelsea. He is leaving of his own accord and amicably.(@Matt_Law_DT) Breaking: Riccardo Calafiori is close to Arsenal for £42.3 million (@DiMarzio) Marc Cucurella: "I’ve been telling Nico Williams to sign for Chelsea! In the end, everything depends on him. He is very young, with a lot of experience. I think he will be a great player."(@sport) Edited July 3, 2024 by mkh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 601 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) Vor 10 Minuten sagte mkh: Edited July 3, 2024 by mkh Delete pls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, mkh said: Riccardo Calafiori is close to Arsenal for £42.3 million (@DiMarzio) FUCK gutted if we lose him J David and Cala are my two obessions this summer we could have BOTH for around what we paid for just CuCu do not get me started on Fofana, Mudryk, Rom, Caicedo, Enzo, Sterling (wages included) , Lavia, and DisASSi Edited July 3, 2024 by Vesper mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 16 minutes ago, Vesper said: £42m for him is a fucking STEAL we paid a combined £140m for CuCu and permawrecked Fofana ffs!!!!!!! PL to PL transfer are always gonna have a massive premium. Not really fair to compare those deals to Calafiori coming from a relatively tiny Italian club who for them £42m is a gigantic sum they can really turn down. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,284 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 well, calafiori choose arsenal, as we expected 2 years in a row without ucl it is too much sadly mkh, Strike, Blue Armour and 1 other 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, Pizy said: We can’t even afford £42m without trying to throw in players these days? Whatever. Let Arse have him. Go for an actual specialist LB instead rather than a CB who can also play LB. he is not just any CB if he goes to Arse I predict he haunts us for year he is cut, IMHO, from the legendary Italian CB rock, and thsoe types almost NEVER leave Italy plus he will be a marketing star, massive commercial revenue generator look at the lad Edited July 3, 2024 by Vesper Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 601 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Calafiori is over next Hincapie or J.Hato ✅️🔥🔥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Vesper said: look at the lad He would bring clean sheets to the club but mine would be dirty. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) 25 minutes ago, mkh said: Neil Bath has decided to leave Chelsea. He is leaving of his own accord and amicably.(@Matt_Law_DT) Ah, that's a bit better. It doesn't rule out the possibility that he is leaving because he does not like the direction of travel, but at least he wasn't pushed. To go from talking him up, and effectively promoting him, to kicking him out would not bode well for our management. It's still significant however that Frasier is also leaving. The chances of this being coincidence is obviously slim. Edited July 3, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 601 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 Apparently they have not been happy with Fraser and Bath in recent years who have played big roles in recognising talent for the youth teams. These included: -Mason Burstow -Dylan Williams -Eddie Beach -Zak Sturge -Jimmy-Jay Morgan -Omari Hutchinson (was a hit) -Alex Matos -Ishe Samuels- Smith -Diego Moreira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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