Chelsea Transfers

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Have seen nothing yet. 2+ months would indicate some form of invasive treatment usually. Woudl absolutely wreck our season cos we would essentially play another system without him and then learn a new one with him mid season 

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

Season hindered before its even began. 

[LAM09 7,069]

17 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Thats why I actually support the club buying so many youngsters at a relatively low prize. Even if they dont turn out as the real deal, u can still sell them with a profit, bc the overall market will inflate over the next few years and if they turn out great u saved a lot of money and u dont have to deal with clubs like Brighton or Inter who love to squeeze u for every pound possible and let u wait till deadline day.

I agree to an extent. It's a good model in theory, but I hope we just don't go down the same path as before by having youngsters on our books till their mid twenties. If someone doesn't show enough within 24 months, we should be looking to get shot regardless of how it will affect us financially. 

[Vesper 30,272]

7 hours ago, ulvhedin said:

we don't have european football, 5 cbs (even without Chalobah, Cucu and considering Fofana is out for season) is overkill. Even Poch said he doesn't want squad to be too bloated.

Let's say (and again, it is what I originally stated that my 4 buys were predicated up) we DO sell Trevoh and CuCu.

As stated stated, Fofana is likely out for the season. (I will add that I think he is perma fucked or damn near it)

So, assuming all that (which I DID posit in my first post) I do not think 4 CBs total is enough.

Badi is out atm.

Thiago is 39 in September and cant play ever game.

So if we played a back 3 (with Thiago playing) right now we have no true CBs at all for subs. Bashir Humphreys is being loaned out.

Given our injury record and Thiago's age, IF we did sell CuCu (who is NOT a viable CB btw, that is plain for all to see) AND Trevoh, I think we should replace ONE of those 2.

 

 

[Special Juan 28,187]

Always one or two big injuries away from disaster every season, it's becoming laughable now

[Gundalf 806]

If its 2 months, he would only miss 7 games, 6 of which against opponents that a Chelsea team should be able to beat without him.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Always one or two big injuries away from disaster every season, it's becoming laughable now

Yup. Probably RJ and and Chily will hit the wall some time in autumn as well and we will be left with a squad worse than last season’s. Can’t blame the medical staff for the sunk cost perma cripple fofana or the Ed sheeran Quagmire but as the season goes on our Foo fighter doctors will surely play their part. 

[Gundalf 806]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

Yup. Probably RJ and and Chily will hit the wall some time in autumn as well and we will be left with a squad worse than last season’s. Can’t blame the medical staff for the sunk cost perma cripple fofana or the Ed sheeran Quagmire but as the season goes on our Foo fighter doctors will surely play their part. 

Gusto > James

[Vesper 30,272]

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

The Tyler Adams move still has me confused. The long term starting pairing will *crosses fingers* be Enzo + Caicedo. Then we have THREE quality teenagers in Andrey, Casadei, and now Ugochukwu who play in CM/DM. It’s already going to be an issue finding space for all these guys.

So adding Adams who is still just 24 makes things even more of a headache in the long term. For this season specifically where we can use his PL experience it makes sense, I suppose. But what happens if Casadei and Ugo have extremely impressive loans and Andrey really impresses while staying here? We’ll have loads of midfielders then who all are good enough to be playing regularly and not enough minutes to go around.

 

I am against the Tyler Adams buy.

I think it is a marketing buy, just like Pulisic was.

Thar said,  I am not going to lose my mond over it.

If he was a creative hybrid CMF/AMF like Gabri Viega, then sure, no problems (if a low price) but he is not that type if player.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

8 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Gusto > James

Lol Gusto has not played a single PL game yet. a fit RJ is still the best fullback in the world

[Gundalf 806]

Just now, Magic Lamps said:

Lol Gusto has not played a single PL game yet. a fit RJ is still the best fullback in the world

Still the drop off isnt as big as having finished Azpi around. We have our positions covered A LOT better than the last few seasons.

[LAM09 7,069]

On 04/08/2023 at 00:40, Tomo said:

They'll always be a bit of natural paranoia after the last couple of season's but instincts are telling me it was a precaution due to the pitch.

Hopefully I'm right.

  So much for that (if reports are true). 😔

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

I am against the Tyler Adams buy.

I think it is a marketing buy, just like Pulisic was.

Thar said,  I am not going to lose my mond over it.

If he was a creative hybrid CMF/AMF like Gabri Viega, then sure, no problems (if a low price) but he is not that type if player.

Maybe it is but a 20m + reasonable wages Marketing buy . So if the board really sees any commercial benefit of a player who costs peanuts and does not demand playing time, I am actually all for it. However, if it means no proper quality DM being bought then to hell with tiny Ty. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

Adams isn't a marketing buy. Poch apparently wants PL experience to bring off the bench vs 18-19 year olds with hardly any top flight experience. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Adams isn't a marketing buy. Poch apparently wants PL experience to bring off the bench vs 18-19 year olds with hardly any top flight experience. 

Adams has a mighty 24 PL games experience. Even Caicedo has more 

[Gundalf 806]

Wouldnt mind Enzo, Caicedo, Santos, Adams as our midfield options

Edited August 7, 2023 by Gundalf

[Vesper 30,272]

Look, I do not want to get bogged down over CBs. We have not even sold Trevoh and CuCu, which my entire post was predicated upon.

I MUCH more am concerned over DMF, probably CF plus RW and creative AMF too.

Kudus plays everywhere up front, which is why, again, I posted the reply (if we bought him he frees up a slot as he adresses both AMF and RW and he even can play SS and CF.

We apparently are trying to scupper Brightons deal with him atm.

We need to close out Caicedo asap!

It's getting ridiculous. 

At CF, just sort the Juve swap deal for Rom plus cash.

[Vesper 30,272]

10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Maybe it is but a 20m + reasonable wages Marketing buy . So if the board really sees any commercial benefit of a player who costs peanuts and does not demand playing time, I am actually all for it. However, if it means no proper quality DM being bought then to hell with tiny Ty. 

Yes, the low cost makes it not so so bad.

Do you think that Adams really may end up the only DMF type we buy?

As in Adams will be the buy that replaces a failed Caicedo attempt?

I will lose it then.

 

[Gundalf 806]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Yes, the low cost makes it not so so bad.

Do you think that Adams really may end up the only DMF type we buy?

As in Adams will be the buy that replaces a failed Caicedo attempt?

I will lose it then.

 

Every credible jounalist said that Adams and Caicedo are 2 completely seperate deals, so no way Adams would be our only DM buy

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Yes, the low cost makes it not so so bad.

Do you think that Adams really may end up the only DMF type we buy?

As in Adams will be the buy that replaces a failed Caicedo attempt?

I will lose it then.

 

I really hope not. The board would be taking the piss if so. Seriously Poch would rightly feel kidded. 
but If the board sell it right, promise to sign quality DM in Jan, Poch might still grudgingly swallow his tongue but surely the relationship would be strained.