Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Btw, how does FFP work when you buy a player and sell a player between a club? We can sell them Lukaku for 75m and they can sell us Vlahovic for 90m, letting us spread the damage over the length of Vlahovic's contract and avoid the FFP damage of selling Lukaku for a big loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Btw, how does FFP work when you buy a player and sell a player between a club? We can sell them Lukaku for 75m and they can sell us Vlahovic for 90m, letting us spread the damage over the length of Vlahovic's contract and avoid the FFP damage of selling Lukaku for a big loss? Barca and Juve are in trouble for inflating prices in the Pjanic-Arthur swap Mhsc and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 What I will say is... it seems Juve fans rate Vlahovic and blame Alegri massively for his lack of success there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 xPetrCechx, Vesper and DBGT 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,272 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 17 hours ago, JDY said: Keep seeing comments about how Sanchez commands his box but whenever I saw him for Brighton he was an absolute clown when facing crosses. Misjudging, flapping.. Not sure I like the transfer, especially from Brighton. He is not in my top 15 targets (Plus Bono as a couple year stop gap) Top 15 in order of my preference Oblak Mamardashvili Diogo Costa Mike Maignan Anatoliy Trubin Gregor Kobel Matvey Safonov Odysseas Vlachodimos Dominik Livakovic Alex Meret Marco Carnesecchi (sleeper) Lucas Chevalier (sleeper) Alban Lafont Predrag Rajkovic Guillaume Restes (18yo) JDY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,272 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: That pic is intense! 💥💥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Leicester want Casadei, new request has been made. PL loan is what Chelsea want but Maresca is key to the deal I actually think playing in a (likely) dominant team will be better preparation for eventually making it here, even if it's a tier below. Vesper and Strike 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,272 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Wtf Helllllll NO TO ALL but Caicedo and Lavia (of course) Edited August 1, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: Wtf Helllllll NO TO ALL but Caicedo and Lavia (of course) Is Edson Alvarez really a "hell no"? His stats are incredible, beating Declan Rice in almost everything. Stats can be deceptive of course but surprised he would be a "hell no"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Is Edson Alvarez really a "hell no"? His stats are incredible, beating Declan Rice in almost everything. Stats can be deceptive of course but surprised he would be a "hell no"... I would say he is a „meh ok“ rather than a „hell no“ but he will divide opinions here for sure. Can see him dominating some games and absolutely getting hammered in others . What could be a pro is that he is Spanish speaking like Enzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 183 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Sanchez, Disasi, Caicedo, Alvarez and one more attacking option(Kudus/Vlahovic/Olise) - IN Lukaku, Ziyech, CHO, Sarr, Chalobah and Broja(depending on incoming striker) - OUT Loans for Slonina, Humphries, Hall, Chuku, new french DM, Casadei and Angelo. This will complete a whole new squad in a matter of 14 months. Only players who were part of the 21-22 season will be Kepa, James, Chilly and Silva. Completely crazy 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I would say he is a „meh ok“ rather than a „hell no“ but he will divide opinions here for sure. Can see him dominating some games and absolutely getting hammered in others . What could be a pro is that he is Spanish speaking like Enzo That is more like how I feel about it. He ticks a lot of boxes from what I see, his stats are excellent in CM but he's also played at CB, he's got the experience Poch is looking for and is sensibly priced at 40m euros. As things stand I would definitely feel more comfortable having him be a Chelsea player than not, but of course it can change if we sign Caicedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Why are we after another attacker? For 3 max 4 positions we have Nku, Sterling, Jackson, Mudryk, Madueke - safe probably going on loan but still here moreira, angelo, Broja maatsen can be used as winger, Enzo as no 10 then we still have CHO, luakkau and Ziyech stealing a living honestly the 5 we know are staying are already enough. If only one of the others stay we are loaded for a max 50 games season. enzoforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,272 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Is Edson Alvarez really a "hell no"? His stats are incredible, beating Declan Rice in almost everything. Stats can be deceptive of course but surprised he would be a "hell no"... The only player off Ajax we need to buy is Kudus. I watched a tonne of Alvarez last summer when we were hard linked, and was not that impressed. He lacks athleticism and pace. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Nku, Sterling, Jackson, Mudryk, Madueke - safe The main argument is that none of them are the super creative type, they're all fast tricky dribblers - the Olise/Cherki argument was purely about adding the Eriksen style player to Poch-ball. The Kudus argument is just that he's probably better than either Madueke or Sterling, if we could get him in and get Sterling out that would be a pretty big net improvement in terms of salary and quality of what we get for our money. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mhsc said: The main argument is that none of them are the super creative type, they're all fast tricky dribblers - the Olise/Cherki argument was purely about adding the Eriksen style player to Poch-ball. The Kudus argument is just that he's probably better than either Madueke or Sterling, if we could get him in and get Sterling out that would be a pretty big net improvement in terms of salary and quality of what we get for our money. Ok but neither olise, Cherki nor kudus are anything like eriksen. Enzo is the closest thing. As for Sterling we are probably stuck with him like we are with Cucu moreover the classic no 10 is dead. We have the best 2nd Striker in the world with Nkunku. We should use him to his fullest potential and not out of position to accommodate some ancient idea of spurs era Poch ball. Hence, we should concentrate on making a double pivot work. Edited August 1, 2023 by Magic Lamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,985 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, DDA said: What I will say is... it seems Juve fans rate Vlahovic and blame Alegri massively for his lack of success there. Yeah, reading comments from Juve supporters in multiple places this isn’t the usual case of a fanbase gladly calling for a player who hasn’t lived up to the hype to be sold. Many of them think Vlahovic is really good and was the victim of Allegriball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pizy said: Yeah, reading comments from Juve supporters in multiple places this isn’t the usual case of a fanbase gladly calling for a player who hasn’t lived up to the hype to be sold. Many of them think Vlahovic is really good and was the victim of Allegriball. He looks a really good player to me... tidy on the ball, good positional awareness, strong, good in the air, a deadly finisher, can bang free kicks in top bins... what's there not to like? He's biggest downside for me, is his lack of pace and even then he isn't a Martinez slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, DDA said: He looks a really good player to me... tidy on the ball, good positional awareness, strong, good in the air, a deadly finisher, can bang free kicks in top bins... what's there not to like? He's biggest downside for me, is his lack of pace and even then he isn't a Martinez slow. His injury record, recent goal return (17 league goals in 42 games), and the biggest issue of all, a £30m+ outlay for someone who wouldn't be an undisputed starter. I'd stick with what we have while reassessing things in Jan or next summer. We can't fall at the same hurdle yet again. enzoforever and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Mhsc said: Is Edson Alvarez really a "hell no"? His stats are incredible, beating Declan Rice in almost everything. Stats can be deceptive of course but surprised he would be a "hell no"... His stats are based on an incredibly weak league in comparison to the Premier League. Saw him against Liverpool and Napoli last season and he was dreadful. enzoforever and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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