Pizy 19,280 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 So now we’re going to go after a player that has his head set on and has one foot in the door at Liverpool. So if we throw in a panic bid and he decides to go to Liverpool we look like clowns. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ I mean, how does that look from Lavia’s POV? ‘You could’ve signed me at any point this summer but only came back in for me after the player you really wanted fell through?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Tomo said: Hey? We has an entire Alex Sandro saga in 2017, Koulibaly saga in 2016 and Lukaku was done so late in the window he couldn't play the first game. Last time we got the deal wrapped up early under Roman was 2014. I don't think getting players in for pre season is the massive crucial deal breaker it's made out to be anyway, maybe if it's multiple players but certainly not just one. Mata came in late and adapted fine and quickly, the only time Lukaku looked good for us was when he was training with the squad for a matter of days, Kova arguably had his best performance for us on his debut vs Arsenal at a point his Chelsea career was days old, Silva and Mendy came in late and instantly slotted in (while the players we did get in nice and early that summer struggled). I think with the changes and loss of personnel we’ve had in MF though and the experience amongst it, we really needed to focus on getting in there sorted as early as possible though. We’ve a lot of relatively new faces in there with Gallagher now being our most senior midfielder - he’s only been here as a first team player for a season. Get the feeling we should of been looking to do it early to give them all a lot of time to figure each other out sooner as most are relatively young. If one or two of the likes of Jorgi/Ngolo/Kova were kicking about the squad still, yes the timeframe maybe wouldn’t be hugely important as those guys have a lot of games and know how between them that could calm the young guys but we don’t have the experience or those sort of relationships in there now. We need to build that up - best way to do it would of been getting them in and establishing the partnerships early doors. Fair pre-seasons not exactly the most competitive but its better to settle those nerves or iron out those wrinkles in those games than competitive ones where points are at stake. Particularly with young, inexperienced footballers. After last season, for me it is absolutely paramount that Poch got the team playing like a team as quickly as possible. We seen the disaster that was a mishmash of players who you could tell didn’t have any sort of cohesion or chemistry largely throughout last season. Early signs look good but I am still skeptical of pre-season being much much more than initial building blocks and a fitness exercise. Edited July 27, 2023 by OneMoSalah Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,791 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, Strike said: Hand the transfer request and show them the finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,584 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Zubimendi or Caqueret maybe.. bluesman2610 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Striking similar to Caicedo. Under 5m Edited July 27, 2023 by Clockwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Hand the transfer request and show them the finger. Signed a 4 year deal in January though to 2027 with a +1 option so don’t see that really doing anything earth shattering to improve things on our end. That was after his January transfer request also, so yeah, don’t see it helping us either way. Edited July 27, 2023 by OneMoSalah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Signed a 4 year deal in January though to 2027 with a +1 option so don’t see that really doing anything earth shattering to improve things on our end. He should fire his agent for allowing him to sign that deal without a set release clause. And he should also be extremely pissed at Brighton for assuring him he could go if a reasonable offer came in in the summer and rejecting £80m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,791 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Caicedo dug this hole for himself agreeing to that contract in March Fernando, OneMoSalah and mkh 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Pizy said: He should fire his agent for allowing him to sign that deal without a set release clause. And he should also be extremely pissed at Brighton for assuring him he could go if a reasonable offer came in in the summer and rejecting £80m. Agents can only advice so far though and I am sure Caicedo was happy enough to sign a hugely improved 4+1 year deal at the time. If he maybe held his nerve and didn’t renew but stayed there the rest of the season, chances are he would of got his move by now and got paid more all the same as he would of had a better hand. Even if he hands in a transfer request, Brighton can just laugh it off and be like “Really? Didn’t we do this already 6 months ago?” Honestly, can’t help but admire Brighton’s stance to be fair. It’s frustrating for is but they really don’t need the money after selling a lot of good players the last 12-18 months, are in Europe for the first time ever and are ambitious enough to not sell somebody who is near about/arguably on equal par to Declan Rice who went to Arsenal for £105m. In an ever so inflated market, absolutely they should hold out for £100m. If it was roles reversed I’d be disappointed if we didn’t do the same. Our lack of a plan B though is incredibly alarming. All these football boffins put in place and it looks as if they are saying that Caicedo is the only midfielder in world footballer that may suit us… Edited July 27, 2023 by OneMoSalah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,237 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 This is getting really boring fast. Move on ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 This is pathetic, move on. Fernando and Vegetable 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,666 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, Strike said: it took them almost a month to up the offer from 70 to 80 million pounds. absolutely fucking pathetic xPetrCechx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Agents can only advice so far though and I am sure Caicedo was happy enough to sign a hugely improved 4+1 year deal at the time. If he maybe held his nerve and didn’t renew but stayed there the rest of the season, chances are he would of got his move by now and got paid more all the same as he would of had a better hand. Even if he hands in a transfer request, Brighton can just laugh it off and be like “Really? Didn’t we do this already 6 months ago?” Honestly, can’t help but admire Brighton’s stance to be fair. It’s frustrating for is but they really don’t need the money after selling a lot of good players the last 12-18 months, are in Europe for the first time ever and are ambitious enough to not sell somebody who is near about/arguably on equal par to Declan Rice who went to Arsenal for £105m. In an ever so inflated market, absolutely they should hold out for £100m. If it was roles reversed I’d be disappointed if we didn’t do the same. Our lack of a plan B though is incredibly alarming. All these football boffins put in place and it looks as if they are saying that Caicedo is the only midfielder in world footballer that may suit us… A good agent will know the market for their super desired client. Knowing that Caicedo would continue to have huge clubs interested in him, his agent should’ve told him “I would strongly advise you not to sign this deal because it will give Brighton all the leverage if a big club comes in for you.” Him signing a 4 year deal and getting a wage bump for the reminding 6 months of last season when he was going to get an even bigger wage bump at his new club in the summer anyways is mindbogglingly stupid. In fact, it’s extreme incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,237 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Let Brighton deal with an unhappy midfielder. They promised he could go... this is bang out of order on his behalf. We are huge, we don't need to beg for one player... we have the resources to get somebody else.. now stop wasting time ffs and get something else done. Vegetable and robsblubot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 €93m rejected for Caicedo after one good season is crazy. With this money we will buy Kimmich or Barella . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 seriously all this talk about our scouts; but you can't find a middle ground between a 100m and 18 year old that would need a few years. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, DDA said: We are huge, we don't need to beg for one player... Except we started to make fool of ourselves in front of mid-table teams after that pathetic Raphinia chase. I don't think the new board gets the stuff like prestige and what you do and don't do in football at all. Or maybe they think fans won't bother. We should have pulled out of Caicedo negotations long time ago, even if only as power display, it boggles my mind we haven't and continue to act like some Championship-promoted team of librarians in terms of transfers. robsblubot and Blue Armour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) A versatile player that can play CB and DM. He basically is what John Stones is for City but with better offensive capability. I am huge fan of players that can struck balls outside the box and from anywhere. We saw how many times Rodri has scored some really decisive goals outside of the box. The difference between a 0-1 and 3 points. Edited July 27, 2023 by Clockwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 one month to do another bid for caicedo? jesus christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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