Chelsea Transfers

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

2 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Would say Inter move is definitely off, not just based solely off Lautaro’s comments but would think the whole Juventus negotiations will have offended a lot of their dressing room, staff and fans. He really has fucked it for himself, stupid cunt that he is. But what do you expect l?

He’s always been one of the most arrogant footballers of a pretty arrogant Belgian generation. But his arrogance, he can’t back it up, just look at the biggest games/moments of his career - it’s pretty laughable.

[Tomo 21,733]

22 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I know people were skeptical of how we done things before but under Roman if we wanted Caicedo, it would of been done in the first week of the window. Simple as that.

Hey? We has an entire Alex Sandro saga in 2017, Koulibaly saga in 2016 and Lukaku was done so late in the window he couldn't play the first game. Last time we got the deal wrapped up early under Roman was 2014.

I don't think getting players in for pre season is the massive crucial deal breaker it's made out to be anyway, maybe if it's multiple players but certainly not just one. Mata came in late and adapted fine and quickly, the only time Lukaku looked good for us was when he was training with the squad for a matter of days, Kova arguably had his best performance for us on his debut vs Arsenal at a point his Chelsea career was days old, Silva and Mendy came in late and instantly slotted in (while the players we did get in nice and early that summer struggled).

[Pizy 18,368]

We sadly just have zero leverage in this Caicedo negotiation. Brighton aren’t in a position where they need the money. They’ve just seen another PL proven midfielder in Caicedo’s exact position go for £100m+ and they rate him at Rice’s level or higher. And then perhaps most crucially Caicedo himself isn’t kicking up a fuss or forcing the issue.

That third point is probably the only thing that can change the impasse. Caicedo has to start making things uncomfortable. Because I can’t see us paying £100m for a fucking DM.

[TheHulk 1,855]

If we end up with some garbage like Kessie I'm done with football for a while.

[lucio 5,418]

Bid £50m for lavia right this instant. Stop fucking around you useless clowns 

[Tomo 21,733]

1 minute ago, lucio said:

Bid £50m for lavia right this instant. Stop fucking around you useless clowns 

You want us to stop fucking around but at the same time bid for a player who clearly wants Liverpool and only Liverpool?

[chelsea_4_eva 1,157]

They really do want Colwill don't they. Hopefully our board are sensible and do not offer them more than £85M, which is more than fair. If Brighton reject that, then I think we should move on. 85 million pounds is a LOT of money. We don't want to get rinsed by them again.

In the meantime our board should also focus on scouting for alternatives, one which compliments Enzo.

[TheHulk 1,855]

Just now, Tomo said:

You want us to stop fucking around but at the same time bid for a player who clearly wants Liverpool and only Liverpool?

Who says he only wants Liverpool.

[TheHulk 1,855]

Get him.

[lucio 5,418]

8 minutes ago, Tomo said:

You want us to stop fucking around but at the same time bid for a player who clearly wants Liverpool and only Liverpool?

Based on what ?  Where does it say that ?

[Tomo 21,733]

5 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Who says he only wants Liverpool.

Pretty much every report for atleast the last month and you literally have just proved my point yourself minutes later.

Just like with VVD years back, it's very clear where he wants to end up.

[TheHulk 1,855]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Pretty much every report for atleast the last month and you literally have just proved my point yourself minutes later.

Just like with VVD years back, it's very clear where he wants to end up.

He wants to go there because Liverpool was the only one who actually moved for him, if the clowns working at this club wouldn't have wasted 2 months on Caicedo we would likely got him by now.

[Tomo 21,733]

2 minutes ago, lucio said:

Based on what ?  Where does it say that ?

Pretty much every report for the last month including one just posted have said he has his heart set on Liverpool.

It's VVD a few years ago all over again, pointless even trying.

[Pizy 18,368]

So now we’re going to go after a player that has his head set on and has one foot in the door at Liverpool. So if we throw in a panic bid and he decides to go to Liverpool we look like clowns. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I mean, how does that look from Lavia’s POV? ‘You could’ve signed me at any point this summer but only came back in for me after the player you really wanted fell through?”

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

36 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Hey? We has an entire Alex Sandro saga in 2017, Koulibaly saga in 2016 and Lukaku was done so late in the window he couldn't play the first game. Last time we got the deal wrapped up early under Roman was 2014.

I don't think getting players in for pre season is the massive crucial deal breaker it's made out to be anyway, maybe if it's multiple players but certainly not just one. Mata came in late and adapted fine and quickly, the only time Lukaku looked good for us was when he was training with the squad for a matter of days, Kova arguably had his best performance for us on his debut vs Arsenal at a point his Chelsea career was days old, Silva and Mendy came in late and instantly slotted in (while the players we did get in nice and early that summer struggled).

I think with the changes and loss of personnel we’ve had in MF though and the experience amongst it, we really needed to focus on getting in there sorted as early as possible though. We’ve a lot of relatively new faces in there with Gallagher now being our most senior midfielder - he’s only been here as a first team player for a season.

Get the feeling we should of been looking to do it early to give them all a lot of time to figure each other out sooner as most are relatively young. If one or two of the likes of Jorgi/Ngolo/Kova were kicking about the squad still, yes the timeframe maybe wouldn’t be hugely important as those guys have a lot of games and know how between them that could calm the young guys but we don’t have the experience or those sort of relationships in there now. We need to build that up - best way to do it would of been getting them in and establishing the partnerships early doors. Fair pre-seasons not exactly the most competitive but its better to settle those nerves or iron out those wrinkles in those games than competitive ones where points are at stake. Particularly with young, inexperienced footballers. 

After last season, for me it is absolutely paramount that Poch got the team playing like a team as quickly as possible. We seen the disaster that was a mishmash of players who you could tell didn’t have any sort of cohesion or chemistry largely throughout last season. Early signs look good but I am still skeptical of pre-season being much much more than initial building blocks and a fitness exercise. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[Strike 7,217]

 

[TheHulk 1,855]

Just now, Strike said:

 

Hand the transfer request and show them the finger.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,494]

Zubimendi or Caqueret maybe..