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The fact that we changed medical departments so quickly and had a surreal rash of injuries also made it very difficult.

it is essential to have a good pre-season and to have a perfect medical department, so that we have as few injuries as possible. 

people may be suspicious, but don't forget that we have already achieved a top4 by releasing lots of academy players without any kind of evidence. 

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11 minutes ago, Mário César said:

I understand that but both nkunku and caicedo, if we sign him, are two players who have been associated with great clubs and have come from great seasons. 

We are not talking about youngsters who have had weak seasons and are not arousing the interest of any club.
 

Great clubs!? WTF!? That's exactly what I was getting at in the post you replied to. The step up from where they play to Chelsea is going to be huge!

Didn't Cucurella look good at the same club Caicedo "fall early" is coming from? What's this obsession with a 21yo? What exactly do you think he's going to provide say in his first 2 seasons at Chelsea?

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2 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Great clubs!? WTF!? That's exactly what I was getting at in the post you replied to. The step up from where they play to Chelsea is going to be huge!

Didn't Cucurella look good at the same club Caicedo "fall early" is coming from? What's this obsession with a 21yo? What exactly do you think he's going to provide say in his first 2 seasons at Chelsea?

You didn't understand what to say.

I'm saying that these players have been associated with big clubs like Real, United and Arsenal, for example.

We're not talking about players who were mediocre and nobody wants them. 

De Bruyne came from Wolfsburg, Bernardo Silva from Monaco, Van Dijk and Mané from Southampton, etc etc.

I could give here several examples of players who came from clubs where the jump to the ones they are now were huge.

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the loan fee from last season at Inter was also only 7.8 million euros. 

Plus Chelsea still paid half of the 325.00 per week salary.

Lukaku cost us 113 million euros at the time🤬.

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2 minutes ago, Mário César said:

You didn't understand what to say.

I'm saying that these players have been associated with big clubs like Real, United and Arsenal, for example.

We're not talking about players who were mediocre and nobody wants them. 

De Bruyne came from Wolfsburg, Bernardo Silva from Monaco, Van Dijk and Mané from Southampton, etc etc.

I could give here several examples of players who came from clubs where the jump to the ones they are now were huge.

Ah got you, my bad.

The point remains tho; RM can go after Calciedo because they already have senior players in that role. We'd be relying on a 21 coming from a smaller club. Big clubs aren't allowed to do that. It just does not work.

Younger players aren't, by definition, very consistent in their performances. More senior players, esp the good expensive ones give you exactly that: consistency.

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6 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Ah got you, my bad.

The point remains tho; RM can go after Calciedo because they already have senior players in that role. We'd be relying on a 21 coming from a smaller club. Big clubs aren't allowed to do that. It just does not work.

Real Madrid had their eye on Nkunku and Arsenal and United had their eye on Caicedo. 

Don't forget that we will still keep some players like Reece, Chilwell, Thiago, Fofana, Sterling and Enzo. 

It won't all be rookies. 

Last year no one cared about Havertz, Jorginho, Mount and Kanté leaving and now everyone is worried.

I don't know what to think, honestly.

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Just now, Mário César said:

Real Madrid had their eye on Nkunku and Arsenal and United had their eye on Caicedo. 

Don't forget that we will still keep some players like Reece, Chilwell, Thiago, Sterling and Enzo. 

It won't all be rookies. 

Last year no one cared about Havertz, Jorginho, Mount and Kanté leaving and now everyone is worried.

I don't know what to think, honestly.

Yes, but so far they are definitely on the rookie side of things. 

Last season the likes of Mudryk played like shit, but we only remember that Mount had a poor season filled with injuries. Reece had a bad season too, same with Chilwell. Sterling was awful! It's fine to say that nothing worked last season, but then rate all players thru the same lenses.

Dude we don't have a midfield to field tomorrow if we were to play. We are waiting for this fabled 21yo from fucking Brighton so we can have 11 starters worth a damn.

hey if you like the status quo, then all power to you. For me, this is all crap and it's going to crap next season unless we move to signing more senior players ASAP. 

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2 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Yes, but so far they are definitely on the rookie side of things. 

Last season the likes of Mudryk played like shit, but we only remember that Mount had a poor season filled with injuries. Reece had a bad season too, same with Chilwell. Sterling was awful! It's fine to say that nothing worked last season, but then rate all players thru the same lenses.

Dude we don't have a midfield to field tomorrow if we were to play. We are waiting for this fabled 21yo from fucking Brighton so we can have 11 starters worth a damn.

hey if you like the status quo, then all power to you. For me, this is all crap and it's going to crap next season unless we move to signing more senior players ASAP. 

We need a top striker, a winger at least, besides Caicedo, another midfielder. 

Kepa doesn't convey to me and we need another goalkeeper and I worry that Poch trusts Kepa.

At least, we need this.

By the way, what players do you suggest? 

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Just now, Mário César said:

We need a top striker, a winger at least, besides Caicedo, another midfielder. 

Kepa doesn't convey to me and we need another goalkeeper and I worry that Poch trusts Kepa.

At least, we need this.

By the way, what players do you suggest? 

Scouting the market is not my job, nor is it something I like to do...sounds like too much work to be fun. I think we need more than that, esp wingers.

Having a top striker is overrated, if nkunku turns out to be a good player, then he's good enough in my book. We all hope he's not a Morata in front of the the goal, but I rather have an excellent player playing #9 than a good "competent" "proper" striker playing #9, but that goes into personal pref.

I'm more worried with the building of the squad than specific areas and specific names.

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1 minute ago, robsblubot said:

Scouting the market is not my job, nor is it something I like to do...sounds like too much work to be fun. I think we need more than that, esp wingers.

Having a top striker is overrated, if nkunku turns out to be a good player, then he's good enough in my book. We all hope he's not a Morata in front of the the goal, but I rather have an excellent player playing #9 than a good "competent" "proper" striker playing #9, but that goes into personal pref.

I'm more worried with the building of the squad than specific areas and specific names.

the extremes is also what worries me.

we need at least one player of a high level with the end product 

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