Chelsea Transfers

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Think Boehly has a good relationship with the Saudi’s. Saw a pic making the rounds on Twitter the other day of him meeting with them. Maybe he can set up some sort legal money laundering scheme where a bunch of Saudi clubs can pay decent fees for our deadwood. 🤣

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14 minutes ago, Mário César said:

if he was going to be sold to bournemouth, how come in six months he is already good enough for Chelsea?

How many players have we, and other big clubs bought just 6-12 months after they come in, become a massive revelation and the next big thing? 

Very rare we, or other big clubs get it right early. I mean, at times we did, with KDB, and others, and we let them walk...

 

It just isn't sound logic, or the right way to look at it.  

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27 minutes ago, Vesper said:

thank you

I had not yet read this when I said the same about Eto'o in 2005/06 just now

Weah vs Eto... now that's a face-off. Different eras tho...super difficult to compare.

Eto more agile, quick, skillful while Weah more powerful + aerial. Don't remember Weah much, so could be off.

[Mário César 1,289]

Forget abou that debate about eto

Wasteful off topic

[Vesper 30,235]

On 15/06/2023 at 22:56, Liuxas said:

God. I hate this greedy cheap club so much. At least he will champion every year in farmers league. They got the best Centre Back in the world right now. You will see guys he will be so dominant. I wish we bought him as Silva replacment. We missed big chance. Btw hes release clause is 35mln if i remember. Thats crazy deal for such a beast. 

 

Kim Min-jae is not the best CB on the planet

I would take every one of following over him

Rúben Dias  
Ronald Araújo
Josko Gvardiol  
Marquinhos
Milan Skriniar  
Matthijs de Ligt
Alessandro Bastoni
Éder Militão  (he improved a lot the last 2 years, I no longer consider him a major issue for RM)
António Silva (next great Portuguese CB IMHO)
William Saliba  
Sven Botman  
Jurrien Timber (he grew to 6 feet tall and has speed to burn, today is his birthday, turned 22)
 

If VVD and Alaba were 3 years or so years younger then them as well

Giorgio Scalvini, 19yo, 1.94m is perhaps the next great Italian CB

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by Vesper

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The more I watch of Nicolas Jackson the more I like what I see. 

He looks a really skillfull player with very good  1 touch and two touch link up play. Looks composed on the ball when in finishing situations. Strong and fairly fast too. Hmm, this could turn out go be a bargain at just £29m.

Edited June 16, 2023 by DDA

[Mário César 1,289]

3 minutes ago, DDA said:

The more I watch of Nicolas Jackson the more I like what I see. 

He looks a really skillfull player with very good  1 touch and two touch link up play. Looks composed on the ball when in finishing situations. Strong and fairly fast too. Hmm, this could turn out go be a bargain at just £29m.

But to our main striker dont make sense

[lucio 5,418]

3 minutes ago, Mário César said:

But to our main striker dont make sense

top strikers in their prime will have better options than us right now

[Vesper 30,235]

On 15/06/2023 at 23:09, Simon1991 said:

There's a reason Weah is still the only African to win the Ballon d'Or, and it has nothing to do with the talent of those who have followed him.

Wasn't it implied here? That's certainly how i read your post and i am sure many others would arrive to the same conclusions.

Your profile says you are from Mexico

perhaps you should deal with the racism there against us black folk first rather than trying to dismiss bias out of hand

Memín Pinguín for instance:

 

 

In Mexico, how erasing Black history fuels anti-Black racism

https://theconversation.com/in-mexico-how-erasing-black-history-fuels-anti-black-racism-175315

 

In early 2021, a Ghanaian migrant known as Faruku died in the northern Mexican city of Tijuana, near the Mexico-United States border, of an apparent stroke.

This was after being turned away from a hospital and later being asked to pay for an ambulance before it would assist him. A report from Refugees International notes that the circumstances “suggest medical racism” — negligence of care informed by racism.

Recent reports by other migrant rights and advocacy groups describe various instances of anti-Black racism as medical negligence in immigration detention centres in Tijuana and also in the southern town of Tapachula.

Faruku’s story has drawn attention to the plight of African and Haitian migrants in a state of limbo since 2019, when the U.S. first enforced laws forcing asylum-seekers trying to enter the country from Mexico to first await a Mexican court date.

It’s also drawn attention to anti-Black racism in Mexico, which is not only widespread, but a pillar of Mexicanness.

 

Long denial of Black history

Anti-Blackness includes the long denial of Black history in Mexico that affects the country’s more than 2.5 million Afro-Mexicans. According to 2015 figures, about two-thirds of the country’s population that self-identifies as Afro-Mexican also self-identifies as Indigenous.

Anti-Black racism in Mexico has been historically perpetuated by the legacies of slavery and the existence of a racist colonial-era racial caste system, and a modern nationalist myth that has associated true Mexicanness with being mestizaje. That means “mixed race,” a racial and cultural mix of Indigenous and Spaniard.

This ideology has romanticized a state-defined idea of Indigenity as anchoring authentic Mexican identity, even while the state enacted policies to assimilate and marginalize Indigenous Peoples.

 

snip

 

[Mário César 1,289]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Your profile says you are from Mexico

perhaps you should deal with the racism there against us black folk first rather than trying to dismiss bias out of hand

Memín Pinguín for instance:

 

 

In Mexico, how erasing Black history fuels anti-Black racism

https://theconversation.com/in-mexico-how-erasing-black-history-fuels-anti-black-racism-175315

 

In early 2021, a Ghanaian migrant known as Faruku died in the northern Mexican city of Tijuana, near the Mexico-United States border, of an apparent stroke.

This was after being turned away from a hospital and later being asked to pay for an ambulance before it would assist him. A report from Refugees International notes that the circumstances “suggest medical racism” — negligence of care informed by racism.

Recent reports by other migrant rights and advocacy groups describe various instances of anti-Black racism as medical negligence in immigration detention centres in Tijuana and also in the southern town of Tapachula.

Faruku’s story has drawn attention to the plight of African and Haitian migrants in a state of limbo since 2019, when the U.S. first enforced laws forcing asylum-seekers trying to enter the country from Mexico to first await a Mexican court date.

It’s also drawn attention to anti-Black racism in Mexico, which is not only widespread, but a pillar of Mexicanness.

 

Long denial of Black history

Anti-Blackness includes the long denial of Black history in Mexico that affects the country’s more than 2.5 million Afro-Mexicans. According to 2015 figures, about two-thirds of the country’s population that self-identifies as Afro-Mexican also self-identifies as Indigenous.

Anti-Black racism in Mexico has been historically perpetuated by the legacies of slavery and the existence of a racist colonial-era racial caste system, and a modern nationalist myth that has associated true Mexicanness with being mestizaje. That means “mixed race,” a racial and cultural mix of Indigenous and Spaniard.

This ideology has romanticized a state-defined idea of Indigenity as anchoring authentic Mexican identity, even while the state enacted policies to assimilate and marginalize Indigenous Peoples.

 

snip

 

Omg 

Be careful with offtopic

Dude nobody care about that debate

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1 minute ago, Mário César said:

Omg 

Be careful with offtopic

Dude nobody care about that debate

I am not a dude, and because it went on for so long with other posters, I, as a mixed race black female, feel I have some agency to voice my opinion as to it all

[Mário César 1,289]

10 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I am not a dude, and because it went on for so long with other posters, I, as a mixed race black female, feel I have some agency to voice my opinion as to it all

Lets focus in Chelsea transfers

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On 15/06/2023 at 23:30, robsblubot said:

I hardly think Mbappe would've been half as good, had his family moved to the USA for example. Maybe a basketball, or am football player, but never a footballer.

Imagine what a football power the US would be if post WWII they have went full association football culture instead of their best athletes (best on the planet in many cases, and they also have SO many superb athletes in sheer numbers as they simply have a massive population to draw from, 335 million and growing) being pulled into basketball and yank football

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2 minutes ago, Mário César said:

Lets focus in Chelsea transfers

I almost always do in here

too much I am sure, lolol

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Imagine what a football power the US would be if post WWII they have went full association football culture instead of their best athletes (best on the planet in many cases, and they also have SO many superb athletes in sheer numbers as they simply have a massive population to draw from, 335 million and growing) being pulled into basketball and yank football

Yup that point is made in the book soccernomics. Unfortunately, or not, USA is a terrible place for footballers to develop.

Like the point I made before, you are too hard on Pulisic... he's literally a miracle. 😅

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1 minute ago, robsblubot said:

Yup that point is made in the book soccernomics. Unfortunately, or not, USA is a terrible place for footballers to develop.

Like the point I made before, you are too hard on Pulisic... he's literally a miracle. 😅

great players can come from shit footballing countries

look at Håland and Martin Ødegaard from Norway

or Alphonso Davies (mini slump aside) or Jonathan David (who we hopefully are doing a deep dive on for CF) from Canada

or Khvicha Kvaratskhelia  and perhaps Giorgi Mamardashvili from Georgia

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USA and China would be clear, china seems to prefer random olympic sports. 

 

They say onana (everton DM) is available for 55m, because everton really need to raise funds. better deal potentially than rice or caicedo. You could get onana and lavia combined for the same as rice. 

if you look at peak Poch at Spurs they had a midfield triumvirate of Dembele Wanyama and Eriksen.  We need that strength to support the creativity of Enzo. Onana seems the best, 6ft 5 and super strong, nice on the ball too

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6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

great players can come from shit footballing countries

look at Håland and Martin Ødegaard from Norway

or Alphonso Davies (mini slump aside) or Jonathan David (who we hopefully are doing a deep dive on for CF) from Canada

or Khvicha Kvaratskhelia  and perhaps Giorgi Mamardashvili from Georgia

Sure, it happens, but it's not the norm. Ødegaard is hardly a world breaker tho -- good player and that's about it. Haaland is monster... doesn't not happen often.

Football is still strong in Norway despite the weakness of the national league.
I truly think Pulisic is the best US player ever and yet, not good enough for Chelsea or any top PL club--at least not as a starter.

[Clockwork 1,794]

not linked but very popular among Chelsea Twitter, intriguing player that is a combination high technical ability also does a lot on the defensive side. If our Enzo going to play the deepest midfielder he would need CMs alongside him.