bluesman2610 1,417 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vegetable said: "Before he went to Atletico" may be a key here. Like with boatloads of those loud players, who proved mediocre at best after getting their big move. After all it comes down to the fact we already have players of similar profiles, it's not most burning hole to plug + he is just expensive to have for 6 months Just like any talented or skillful player system matters. Atletico play ultra defensive and counter attacking football. When he's able to be more expressive he's still a very good player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said: Are people really trying to pretend that Joao Felix technical ability and creativity are not far superior than anyone we have who plays in our midfield or attack? Before he went to Atletico I remember people in here ready to give their left nut to have him in our team. Sometimes it doesn’t work out or sometimes people get overly excited. Which I think was the case with Felix initially - although no doubt there is a good player in there - he’s never really set the world alight compared to that one year in Benfica. Another inconsistent player. Be interesting to see how it works out. bluesman2610 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 44 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: So what wait to the summer and miss out on him all together? And not sign a MFer? I love how optimistic people are to still think we have a chance of getting him at all now. We made an arse of it - Benfica will not negotiate with us unless we pay €120mn and I would imagine that come the summer they will willingly be awkward with us, even more so considering the fact that the player will have multiple choices. I would like to think the club has some sort of contingency plan - although to be fair, I wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t. Yeahhh it isn't happening. If a club comes along with a more appealing look to them which at this stage won't take much...and if wants to play champions league we won't have that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,937 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said: Just like any talented or skillful player system matters. Atletico play ultra defensive and counter attacking football. When he's able to be more expressive he's still a very good player And what kind of football do we play??? Because to me, we literally don't play at all. guddy69, gdlk, bluesman2610 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said: Just like any talented or skillful player system matters. Atletico play ultra defensive and counter attacking football. When he's able to be more expressive he's still a very good player The same way the ultra defensive and counter attacking system didn't harm the likes of Falcao, Costa, Turan, Griezmann, Koke and even Saul for a while though either did it? Even their fullbacks such as Juanfran and Filipe Luis who were pretty effective going forward also? Its selective but those guys made it work and were excellent players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren 41 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I knew Felix would end up here eventually after failing to fulfil his early promise at AM. I just knew it 😂(it yet might not happen but still). I'm sure he's a nice lad and I'm sure he'll love posting loads of insta photos of his jaunts around London. But where it really matters he won't make one iota of difference (I'd love to be wrong). Maybe it's because I'm jaded after years of transfer failures but I wouldn't be excited about this Enzo lad either. Small (relatively), massive fee/wages ... another dosser for the Cobham Sixth Form Centre? We desperately need leaders. We need players who will consistently turn up and play with flair when they can but dig in when necessary. Players who aren't shit scared of the opponent and their goal! I can dream. ulsterchelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 If we were like….idk, 4-5 points off of top 4 and in with a genuine shot to make a run at it I’d be super excited about signing Felix. But since we’re miles behind and the squad’s mentality is likely down in the dumps him arriving may not make a splash. I genuinely don’t know where he will be played. With the injuries I suppose he’ll play on the left. Or perhaps a genuine 2 striker system with he and Kai up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I duno what the decisions are behind our transfers no more..throw them all in and hope for the best or sign a load and think ah now what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: I duno what the decisions are behind our transfers no more..throw them all in and hope for the best or sign a load and think ah now what The famous and proven philosophy of YOLO, until FFP gets us, at least. Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vegetable said: The famous and proven philosophy of YOLO, until FFP gets us, at least. That would make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, DDA said: And what kind of football do we play??? Because to me, we literally don't play at all. I agree although he is capable of moments of magic and we haven't had a player like that since we sold Hazard to Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: The same way the ultra defensive and counter attacking system didn't harm the likes of Falcao, Costa, Turan, Griezmann, Koke and even Saul for a while though either did it? Even their fullbacks such as Juanfran and Filipe Luis who were pretty effective going forward also? Its selective but those guys made it work and were excellent players. Costa, Falcao and Greizmann definitely benefited from their counter attacking style. Turan and Koke were linking players who progressed the ball into the dangerous positions, I have full faith had Felix signed for them during the time when Atletico was a force in Spain and Europe we wouldn't be having the same conversation about his ability. With that said If we don't get the tactics right going forward he'll be worse here than he is perceived to be with AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superblue 6,372 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Atletico will have moved on Felix and Cunha on loan this window. Surely they'll be looking at a replacement in the attacking positions (unless they already have one). Wonder whether we could push one of ours in their direction - they do like usually buying our problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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