King Kante 1,643 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 21 minutes ago, Strike said: This actually makes some sense. However, if Lavia stays fit I want to see more of Caicedo as the inverted RB rather than in CM. The situation I am looking at most with CM currently is Enzo. He is finally fulfilling his potential but Real look as if they're sniffing about and we all know what happens when they do that. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,553 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 25 minutes ago, King Kante said: This actually makes some sense. However, if Lavia stays fit I want to see more of Caicedo as the inverted RB rather than in CM. The situation I am looking at most with CM currently is Enzo. He is finally fulfilling his potential but Real look as if they're sniffing about and we all know what happens when they do that. Real won't pay the transfer fee given they're going for free transfers and refusing to pay 50m for Huijsen. Only way I see Enzo going is if he asks for a move (very much possible) and Real find a way to swap one of their unhappy forwards - Rodrygo for example. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,401 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Why we are not in the conversation about Wirtz ? Probably with Abramovich we would get top young players with expirience like him but clownlake only from Brazil . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, milka said: Why we are not in the conversation about Wirtz ? Probably with Abramovich we would get top young players with expirience like him but clownlake only from Brazil . Because Real and Bayern are his rumoured destinations - some rumours even have him telling Alonso be only wants Bayern. Even under Roman we didn't pull those type of transfers with possibly the exception of 2006 with Sheva and Ballack. Either way, Wirtz either wants to stay in Germany or has Real as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,362 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, milka said: Why we are not in the conversation about Wirtz ? Probably with Abramovich we would get top young players with expirience like him but clownlake only from Brazil . Bild reports Florian Wirtz has declared he only wants to join Bayern Munich https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2025/5/6/24424764/florian-wirtz-bayer-leverkusen-sane-bayern-munich-real-madrid-transfer-rumors-manchester-city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,401 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 38 minutes ago, King Kante said: Because Real and Bayern are his rumoured destinations - some rumours even have him telling Alonso be only wants Bayern. Even under Roman we didn't pull those type of transfers with possibly the exception of 2006 with Sheva and Ballack. Either way, Wirtz either wants to stay in Germany or has Real as an option. Signing Wirtz now would be similar to Havertz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,525 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: Signing Wirtz now would be similar to Havertz. Wirtz is far better than Havertz. Vesper, Fernando, bigbluewillie and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,401 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 5 hours ago, TheHulk said: Wirtz is far better than Havertz. Easy to say that now. When we signed Kai he was the hottest prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,553 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Easy to say that now. When we signed Kai he was the hottest prospect. It was the pandemic that gave us the opening to sign Kai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankLampard007 18 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 10 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Signing Wirtz now would be similar to Havertz. Wirtz is Havertz 2.0. The same player Havertz was years ago. He doesnt fit the Prem. Better he stays where he is. We have no place for him. We need a Striker a Goalkeeper to compete. Not another midfielder oder winger. We have enough of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,493 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 17 hours ago, Pizy said: Ekitike feels to me like he’d be a lot like Jackson in that they will do a lot of really nice things, they’re great to have in your squad as a top club, but not good enough to be THE guy to lead you to the very top. But tbf the only striker available this summer that would be that finishing piece are Osimhen and Gyokeres who are almost certainly impossible for us. So with that being the case would you rather have Ekitike, Seśko, or Delap? Ekitike looks to have the highest ceiling/natural talent. Delap has the tenacity and work ethic that’s perfectly suited to the PL as we’ve seen. Seśko would surely be MUCH more of a box presence than Nico and therefor would probably do well in our setup. I don’t know which I’d prefer. If we're shopping in the latter category. Ekitke for me. With him and Estevao next season, there should be plenty of excitement in our play if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,164 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 05/05/2025 at 13:52, LAM09 said: I feel like this will turn out to be another Grealish/Phillips signing. It would be a stupid move for him in footballing terms. On 05/05/2025 at 15:03, Pizy said: Agree completely. He looks like your stereotypical “big fish in a small pond” English player who looks very good at a smaller profile club where everything revolves around him but will then disappear at a club where expectations are sky high and you’re just another cog in the machine. I’d be delighted as a rival team if City go for him instead of Wirtz for example who I thought for sure Pep would go after. It would make sense for City to target Eze. He is in his prime. Also imo I think he is a better player than MGW. I think Eze is a top player and will be interesting to see how many teams go for him this summer. But if City are looking at MGW, then defo think Eze is a better option. Will likely be cheaper too. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,362 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 22 hours ago, King Kante said: This actually makes some sense. However, if Lavia stays fit I want to see more of Caicedo as the inverted RB rather than in CM. The situation I am looking at most with CM currently is Enzo. He is finally fulfilling his potential but Real look as if they're sniffing about and we all know what happens when they do that. we quoted them 200m euros for Enzo Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,362 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 EXCL: Chelsea the first suitor to officially present project to Dean Huijsen Chelsea are pushing the most right now https://siphillipstalkschelsea.substack.com/p/excl-Chelsea-the-first-suitor-to The 20-year-old is not the only centre back that the club have on the radar for the summer, and there is still a chance that they sign two centre backs, with the second being a more versatile defensive option such as Jorrel Hato of Ajax, who the club are also ready to move in on with foundations being laid there. Huijsen has many potential suitors, but the three main ones are Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal. As reported here, The Blues have held positive talks with the reps of Huijsen in the last few weeks, leading to this latest exclusive news from our sources…. snip mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,753 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Don't know much about Huijsen but watched a few highlight videos. Dude looks real tidy on the ball. Would he be a mega score for us? mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,073 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 06/05/2025 at 13:46, Pizy said: Ekitike feels to me like he’d be a lot like Jackson in that they will do a lot of really nice things, they’re great to have in your squad as a top club, but not good enough to be THE guy to lead you to the very top. But tbf the only striker available this summer that would be that finishing piece are Osimhen and Gyokeres who are almost certainly impossible for us. So with that being the case would you rather have Ekitike, Seśko, or Delap? Ekitike looks to have the highest ceiling/natural talent. Delap has the tenacity and work ethic that’s perfectly suited to the PL as we’ve seen. Seśko would surely be MUCH more of a box presence than Nico and therefor would probably do well in our setup. I don’t know which I’d prefer. Considering the amount they'd command, I would stay clear. I watched him fairly often this year when he was part of a good partnership with Marmoush, but he reaped the rewards from that duo rather than being the dominant force. If we REALLY must go after second, third, or fourth tier options, I'd go for Delap for two reasons: he would be the cheapest and has a year of PL experience behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,996 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 2 hours ago, LAM09 said: Considering the amount they'd command, I would stay clear. I watched him fairly often this year when he was part of a good partnership with Marmoush, but he reaped the rewards from that duo rather than being the dominant force. If we REALLY must go after second, third, or fourth tier options, I'd go for Delap for two reasons: he would be the cheapest and has a year of PL experience behind him. Yeah, Delap feels like the safest of the names. He’s not a striker signing that I’d be excited about necessarily but if he’s who we decide on I won’t be angry or anything. At least you’ll know with him that even when he isn’t scoring he’s an almighty pain in the ass for defenders. But again the question remains whether he’s the sort of #9 that elevates us to where we want to be. Is he a striker who we can eventually see hitting those Drogba/Harry Kane/RvP/Aguero numbers and consistently winning matches? Or is he just simply someone who is interchangeable with Jackson and will rotate in and out with him putting up similar numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,073 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 43 minutes ago, Pizy said: Yeah, Delap feels like the safest of the names. He’s not a striker signing that I’d be excited about necessarily but if he’s who we decide on I won’t be angry or anything. At least you’ll know with him that even when he isn’t scoring he’s an almighty pain in the ass for defenders. But again the question remains whether he’s the sort of #9 that elevates us to where we want to be. Is he a striker who we can eventually see hitting those Drogba/Harry Kane/RvP/Aguero numbers and consistently winning matches? Or is he just simply someone who is interchangeable with Jackson and will rotate in and out with him putting up similar numbers? Without a doubt, he will be a rotation option. We will be in a similar position and have the same conversation in a year because I don't see him dropping numbers that are anywhere near to Palmer's first season (22). You don't get the calibre of CF's you've listed on £150kpw max. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,753 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 6 hours ago, LAM09 said: Without a doubt, he will be a rotation option. We will be in a similar position and have the same conversation in a year because I don't see him dropping numbers that are anywhere near to Palmer's first season (22). You don't get the calibre of CF's you've listed on £150kpw max. I really disagree on the CF front. Every player that gets talked about that we should get for crazy money carries great risk. History shows that as well. All these big spend signings for us, and other teams usually don't end up being what they were. People just look at goal tallies and xg performance and the jazz. It is a lot more nuanced than that. The reason Haaland and Salah bang in goals for fun is due to the sheer amount of opportunities they get playing in a high octane system - and they'll have some stinkers and miss, but they'll put what they need to away. They are workhorses who get in the right positions. Delap is a good pick up. He plays for a shite team where opportunities are rare, but he is a workhorse, causes all kinds of problems for defences all the time, can do more than just score and is decent with build up. He has put away 12 in 33 games. Salah wasn't some big money buy or a guy knocking in the amount he was prior. Kane wasn't expected to be what he was and was doubted even after 2 or 3 seasons putting it together. Aguero's stats weren't otherworldy in terms of goalscoring prior to coming to the EPL. Have a look how long it took for RVP to put it together. The most expensive signings for strikers in EPL are Lukaku twice, Nunez, Isak and Morata... Then you have the likes of Torres, Auba, Haller, etc. Tell me how many of these "surefire" big money signings actually worked... A fickle position reliant on how the team plays and builds up, so you're better off going for a player with the attributes to score big when things are clicking. There will always be seasons when strikers over perform in shite teams but reality is, its a position that fluctuates greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,073 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 29 minutes ago, Thor said: I really disagree on the CF front. Every player that gets talked about that we should get for crazy money carries great risk. History shows that as well. All these big spend signings for us, and other teams usually don't end up being what they were. People just look at goal tallies and xg performance and the jazz. It is a lot more nuanced than that. The reason Haaland and Salah bang in goals for fun is due to the sheer amount of opportunities they get playing in a high octane system - and they'll have some stinkers and miss, but they'll put what they need to away. They are workhorses who get in the right positions. Delap is a good pick up. He plays for a shite team where opportunities are rare, but he is a workhorse, causes all kinds of problems for defences all the time, can do more than just score and is decent with build up. He has put away 12 in 33 games. Salah wasn't some big money buy or a guy knocking in the amount he was prior. Kane wasn't expected to be what he was and was doubted even after 2 or 3 seasons putting it together. Aguero's stats weren't otherworldy in terms of goalscoring prior to coming to the EPL. Have a look how long it took for RVP to put it together. The most expensive signings for strikers in EPL are Lukaku twice, Nunez, Isak and Morata... Then you have the likes of Torres, Auba, Haller, etc. Tell me how many of these "surefire" big money signings actually worked... A fickle position reliant on how the team plays and builds up, so you're better off going for a player with the attributes to score big when things are clicking. There will always be seasons when strikers over perform in shite teams but reality is, its a position that fluctuates greatly. Salah cost around £34m in 2017 (coming off 19 goals for Roma). You can figure out what that fee would be in 2025 (most likely around £80m+ min). Using him or Haaland are such lazy comparison when you look at their output at a similar age in top competitions compared to Delap. Names you listed - Lukaku twice, Nunez, Isak and Morata... Then you have the likes of Torres, Auba, Haller Auba at Arsenal earlier on: 17/18 , 18/19 & 19/20 . Did he fail? Did Torres fail at Liverpool? Out of the rest, Isak is the only one had real potential considering him being a wonderkid at one point and finding his feet again during his time in Spain. The rest seemed like duds from a country mile for one reason or another. The last part rings true to a degree. However, our style of play isn't reliant on a technical genius. Someone like Giroud would be almost a dream right now. If our board weren't so against signing anyone over 22, such a player that isn't raved about might be waiting to be picked up (Kvaratskhelia should be the prime example of what good scouting can achieve). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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