MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 21 minutes ago, King Kante said: Virtually every club has insurance for injuries. Him being injured isn't a problem financially for the club, except from a premium perspective. With players like Lavia, Fofana, and James, I'd imagine the premiums to have them covered would be so expensive the cost/benefit ratio wouldn't matter. Insurance companies are a business at the end of the day and they assess risk. Club will be burdened by them regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 748 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 🚨🔵 Enzo Maresca: “For sure, Fofana and Badiashile will be out for a long time so we'll see what we decide to do on the market”. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 748 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 𝘽𝙍𝙀𝘼𝙆𝙄𝙉𝙂: Omar Marmoush will sign for Manchester City. ✍️🇪🇬🔵 [@youm7] Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 If VVD is available on a free then offering him a couple of years on stupid money would surely be a bit tempting, even at his age, after the positive experience we had with Thiago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 748 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 Chelsea will not be able to recall defender Trevoh Chalobah to ease their defensive injury issues. The 25-year-old’s season-long loan spell at Crystal Palace does not have a break clause. via@SJohnsonSport Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, mkh said: Chelsea will not be able to recall defender Trevoh Chalobah to ease their defensive injury issues. The 25-year-old’s season-long loan spell at Crystal Palace does not have a break clause. via@SJohnsonSport Shouldn’t have been loaned in the first place. Given how Disasi, Tosin and even Colwill have struggled, this looks stupider and stupider. I mean Trev isn’t Maldini or Nesta, don’t get me wrong but he made a big difference when he played last year I felt. Yes he may never be the sort of elite level CB to lead a title winning teams defence but he should of been retained over Disasi and definitely Tosin who for me was always a pathetic signing free or not. For sure. Given he has also played as a RCB in a back 3 and a 4, at RB as well as a 6 whilst in France IIRC, surely he’d of had some sort of capability and qualities to play in that inverted fullback role as well as a CB, no? Edited January 3, 2025 by OneMoSalah bigbluewillie and LAM09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: Shouldn’t have been loaned in the first place. Given how Disasi, Tosin and even Colwill have struggled, this looks stupider and stupider. I mean Trev isn’t Maldini or Nesta, don’t get me wrong but he made a big difference when he played last year I felt. Yes he may never be the sort of elite level CB to lead a title winning teams defence but he should of been retained over Disasi and definitely Tosin who for me was always a pathetic signing free or not. For sure. Given he has also played as a RCB in a back 3 and a 4, at RB as well as a 6 whilst in France IIRC, surely he’d of had some sort of capability and qualities to play in that inverted fullback role as well as a CB, no? Most people should understand that this ownership's primary goal in maximising profits was to unload academy graduates while overpaying for subpar replacements. If they had their way, he would have been permanently sold in the summer. Edited January 3, 2025 by LAM09 OneMoSalah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 19 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Most people should understand that this ownership's primary goal in maximising profits was to unload academy graduates while overpaying for subpar replacements. If they had their way, he would have been permanently sold in the summer. yes like gallagher was sold OneMoSalah and LAM09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 44 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Most people should understand that this ownership's primary goal in maximising profits was to unload academy graduates while overpaying for subpar replacements. If they had their way, he would have been permanently sold in the summer. To be fair, with the way the PSR rules work, selling academy graduates is such an easy loophole. With Chalobah, what was the actual strategy in loaning him out....he's not a 20 year defender that will develop at Palace, he's already a squad player You either sell or keep him around as squad depth (unless Maresca wasn't a fan and wanted him out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 6 hours ago, mkh said: - Felix (also here you had to sign Joao because of Gallagher otherwise we wouldn't have gotten the good transfer fee because of the PSR rule) (Maresca doesn't trust Felix) - KDH horror transfer completely gambled away!!! (Maresca doesn't trust him) - Kellyman (had to be signed because of Maatsen otherwise we would not have gotten the high transfer fee because of the PSR rule) I still don't get why we had to sign Kellyman from Aston Villa...there were other offers for Maatsen. I was expecting the club to at least get a decent squad player from Aston Villa, not a youngster that will likely play zero minutes for us. KDH was a Maresca signing, I don't think it's Maresca not trusting him, he just looks off the pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 59 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Most people should understand that this ownership's primary goal in maximising profits was to unload academy graduates while overpaying for subpar replacements. If they had their way, he would have been permanently sold in the summer. Gallagher is nowhere near the quality of Caicedo, Enzo and Lavia Chalobah is okay but not close to Fofana or Colwill's level. We sold Omari Hutchinson and brought in Neto. I don't think they're overpaying for subpar replacements at all. If anything, it has helped improve the first XI mkh and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted January 3, 2025 Share Posted January 3, 2025 23 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: You either sell or keep him around as squad depth (unless Maresca wasn't a fan and wanted him out). We couldn't get 20m for him last summer. After great performances in Palace we could get 35m. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: To be fair, with the way the PSR rules work, selling academy graduates is such an easy loophole. With Chalobah, what was the actual strategy in loaning him out....he's not a 20 year defender that will develop at Palace, he's already a squad player You either sell or keep him around as squad depth (unless Maresca wasn't a fan and wanted him out). I don't mind if those that come in are perceived as an upgrade. KDH for Gallagher? 😐 Chalobah's predicament became apparent, even when he scored against Tottenham. However, I believe no one was prepared to part with money for him, so the board took the next best thing in their opinion. I mentioned it before his loan was finalised: his flexibility and PL experience make him a great asset, despite his flaws. 2 hours ago, Strike said: Gallagher is nowhere near the quality of Caicedo, Enzo and Lavia Chalobah is okay but not close to Fofana or Colwill's level. We sold Omari Hutchinson and brought in Neto. I don't think they're overpaying for subpar replacements at all. If anything, it has helped improve the first XI It's not about whether they are good enough but who replaced them. Is KDH better than Gallagher, an English INT? Are Badi, Tosin, and Disasi better than Trev? I'd imagine almost everyone on this board would say no to both. It's one thing to replace "subpar" players with better ones; it's a totally different thing to just make stupid decisions. Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,817 Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 You can't just have talent after talent - especially when some will have to sit on the bench. Conor is good enough to start somewhere but not good enough for the football we play here. Lavia, Enzo and Caicedo are levels above Conor - so your replacement needs to be someone of the KDH level that knows how to play the system and can fill the void when an injury does occur. The issue has been that KDH has had trouble adapting into our squad, and hasn't been as effective as thought. A more dynamic midfielder may be needed but keeping what we had was not the answer as Gallagher would have just left regardless not getting minutes. Better to cash in. We need to cut the crap of shitting on the board as well. They've done a tremendous job in turning things around fairly quickly with a new model. In fact, to be where we are given a complete turnaround in how we are run and the methodology internally, its been great. They've clearly struggled to identify defensive talent more so than offensive, because bar Mudryk, we've been excellent in who we've offloaded and then kept/brought on. Estevao, Palmer, Neto, Noni, Jackson, Nkunku are all good to great and can make a profit on all of them. We're literally a CB and RB away from competing. Bring back Santos and let him be that dynamic midfielder who can do a bit of everything. bigbluewillie, Strike and Fernando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,225 Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 On 27/12/2024 at 16:08, Vytis33 said: Noni has always struck me as a player who’d rather score a hat-trick in a loss than win a match. Good team player when things are going well for him but a negative drag when they’re not Well he scored a hat-trick against Wolves and we won 6-2 this season 😄 Fulham Broadway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 541 Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 10 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: I still don't get why we had to sign Kellyman from Aston Villa...there were other offers for Maatsen. I was expecting the club to at least get a decent squad player from Aston Villa, not a youngster that will likely play zero minutes for us. KDH was a Maresca signing, I don't think it's Maresca not trusting him, he just looks off the pace. I fully believe KDH was a was to pay big compensation for maresca but not have it on the books officially.... Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,730 Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 16 hours ago, King Kante said: Virtually every club has insurance for injuries. Him being injured isn't a problem financially for the club, except from a premium perspective. It works like a car insurance, if you keep crashing your premium goes up and this club despite spending billions need to start watching what goes out that does not need to be and with Reece the premium will be through the roof as well as wages being outlayed and zero return Being injured i s a major problem for the club, the wage bill and the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 748 Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 No chance of Chelsea recalling these three CBs: ❌ Trevoh Chalobah from Crystal Palace ❌ Alfie Gilchrist from Sheffield United. ❌ Bashir Humphreys will be going to Burnley permanently (obligation to buy) in the summer. (via@BobbyVincentFL) Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 9 hours ago, LAM09 said: It's not about whether they are good enough but who replaced them. Is KDH better than Gallagher, an English INT? Are Badi, Tosin, and Disasi better than Trev? I'd imagine almost everyone on this board would say no to both. It's one thing to replace "subpar" players with better ones; it's a totally different thing to just make stupid decisions. I didn't understand the KDH transfer when it happened as we don't need his skill set, seemed more like a transfer for Ange at Spurs where it's attack first mentality. 7 hours ago, Thor said: Conor is good enough to start somewhere but not good enough for the football we play here. Lavia, Enzo and Caicedo are levels above Conor - so your replacement needs to be someone of the KDH level that knows how to play the system and can fill the void when an injury does occur. No point saying Lavia is levels above Gallagher when one of them is out of action 90% of the time and the other is known for having strong fitness levels. Its like comparing Reece to the other top quality RB's, it's just not possible anymore as Reece is unfortunately made of glass, won't be too long before he has to retire early and become a coach. LAM09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted January 4, 2025 Share Posted January 4, 2025 20 hours ago, TheHulk said: Another great defensive transfer from the mighty board that's going great. Veiga was a good buy Fernando and bigbluewillie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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