Chelsea Transfers

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13 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

He may have settled down better at Arsenal, knowing that his mate Zinchenko was already there and there would be less pressure on him as a backup winger for Saka/Martinelli. 

Also think the size of the pitch at Emirates would suit his game a lot more. I think for eg Martinelli would struggle here.

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43 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

These deal gets better every hour.

 

Presumably there would be a headache resolution clause in his contract guaranteeing the manager free pain relief medication and regular lie downs in a darkened room. Where is he going to play? When's he going to play?

We all know that if Felix joins he will look great, but what would he actually achieve? Same as usual? Same as makes Atleti keen to part with him, and prevents Barcelona having any interest in making him a priority?

Edited August 12, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie

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23 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

If this Felix deal happens surely Sterling has to go.

Mudryk surely? But even then they aren’t like for like players. 

I don’t think signing someone who played predominantly as a left winger at Barcelona last season and as a number 10 for us the half season before is a good move without shifting one of either Mudryk or Sterling anyway. And still means we need a CF. And still, I’m with Tomo on this one too, not for me. JF was the best of a bad bunch and even then, for me his most memorable highlight was getting sent off what 10 mins into his debut? Can’t think of any real contribution where I thought wow what a player we’ve got here.

21 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Maresca can look at Joao and know how he could incorporate him. Joao and Osimhen is a better plan than Samu. Sometimes you have to be flexible when opportunity presents itself. I am actually happy the plan is changing to more experienced players rather than more 18 year olds.

This is am really interested in, really. How is Maresca going to incorporate Felix? When we play 433/4231…? As a 10 when he has a fully fit Nkunku who has been a real standout this pre-season and must start? And Palmer who can definitely be used there if not on the right wing where we have Noni and Pedro Neto? As a left winger when we have Sterling/Mudryk who are going nowhere as of now?

Felix causes more headaches than he solves. Just as he did when he signed the first time round. Not consistent enough. Not got a defined position.

23 minutes ago, Strike said:

I am yet to see Maresca hold any opinion contrary to the owners. It is dangerous to think there's a plan when Felix was not in our thinking till last night.

Yeah clearly wasn’t a thought at all but we are desperate to sell Gallagher. So its likely 90% more Clearlake, Stewart & Winstanley throw shit at the wall until it sticks scattergun approach without any genuine consideration for what we actually need.

Given Felix isn’t a CF or a CB also… what more proof do folk need? 

I mean I really doubt Maresca is even interested in him either, genuinely get the feeling he is a yes man, as a lot of these “head coach” types are.

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3 hours ago, Strike said:

Guiu has changed their minds. There's no other explanation for low-balling a contract offer after briefing the media all summer that the club is obsessed with Samu, that his data is the bomb and bidding multiple times for him.

 

Yeah, Guiu has really impressed me. Considering he is 18 he has really good strength and was bigger than I thought he would be. On top of that, because he came out of La Masia he has good technical ability (arguably very good for a CF.) His movements off the ball are also good in that he moves like a proper No.9 where is is either drawing people away from goal or makes his runs towards goal. 

The only issue I have had with him is how he snatches at things. A few times in preseason he went to lash it and sliced it when a little dink/side footer would've been better. Hopefully, that is just nerves and his inexperience. If so, he could become very decent imo. 

34 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Felix is a good footballer, great technique, no doubt. Under 40m is relatively cheap. Still we are absolutely loaded with attackers especially those who - like him - are all flair no end product. He is the exact opposite of what we need, exactly what he was last time we pondered that decision. He has failed wherever he has gone since leaving Portugal . Let altetico crash and burn , no need to bail them out just bc they can’t string two transfers together . The mere concept of switching from omorodian to Felix, two entirely different players and types of signings highlights again the absolute incompetence in our board and their completely random scattergun „strategy“ 

Well, I think the question is do you rather Felix or Samu in exchange for Gallagher? As it appears to be one or the other. Additionally, people need to remember Felix is still 24, the way some people go on you would think he is 29 or something. 

28 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I'm hoping Enzo has seen Sterling and Mudryk and thought "These two are shite"

Yeah, he seems to have realised the GK's weren't good enough as we went from not needing a GK, to needing a GK after one week of training. Hopefully the same will be true of Disaster. 

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In terms of where Felix would fit or his role in the team, I see him as pretty much the same as Nkunku. A Swiss Army knife of a player who can play about 4 different positions. LW, RW, #10, or emergency false 9. Just like Christo. That’s exactly what the English journalists were briefed months ago that the club wanted in their transfer targets. Versatile players who can be moved around to different positions with comfort.

As everyone has said, though, we NEED to sell some of the current lot for this move to make sense.

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12 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Presumably there would be a headache resolution clause in his contract guaranteeing the manager free pain relief medication and regular lie downs in a darkened room. Where is he going to play? When's he going to play?

We all know that if Felix joins he will look great, but what would he actually achieve? Same as usual? Same as makes Atleti keen to part with him, and prevents Barcelona having any interest in making him a priority?

Tbf, Barca wanted to keep him but couldn't keep him due to La Liga FFP. It isn't quite true that he wasn't wanted by them. 

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2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

In terms of where Felix would fit or his role in the team, I see him as pretty much the same as Nkunku. A Swiss Army knife of a player who can play about 4 different positions. LW, RW, #10, or emergency false 9. Just like Christo. That’s exactly what the English journalists were briefed months ago that the club wanted in their transfer targets. Versatile players who can be moved around to different positions with comfort.

As everyone has said, though, we NEED to sell some of the current lot for this move to make sense.

Yeah, we need to shift 8-10 players. Not entirely sure it is possible. Probably two for AM alone. 

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7 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Tbf, Barca wanted to keep him but couldn't keep him due to La Liga FFP. It isn't quite true that he wasn't wanted by them. 

I didn't say they didn't want him. Based on my own prejudice, I find it hard to believe that they did, but, in any event, they certainly didn't want him enough to make him a priority signing. Which is why I phrased my comment as I did.

Edited August 12, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie

[Vytis33 1,373]

In: Joao Felix, Osimhen

Out: Samu, Lukaku, Mudryk and/or Sterling (possibly Noni)

 

Desperation time from Atleti/Napoli.  Could wind up getting both players at nearly 2 for 1 price from where original asks started.  And Lukaku finally off the books.  Seems like a net win

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49 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

He may have settled down better at Arsenal, knowing that his mate Zinchenko was already there and there would be less pressure on him as a backup winger for Saka/Martinelli. 

Price tag is still the price tag and the pressure that comes with it. He was too young and too raw. Arsenal really fooled us with this one.

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4 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said:

Price tag is still the price tag and the pressure that comes with it. He was too young and too raw. Arsenal really fooled us with this one.

Only saving Grace is that we didn’t put him on silly wages like £200k+ a week so he should have plenty of clubs that could take him in if we want to get rid. The talent is still there with Mudryk. He just needs to go somewhere where he’s 100% comfortable and confident and under a coach that gives him full belief. Needs a smaller profile club where there isn’t gigantic pressure on him every time he takes the pitch like here.

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[DDA 10,204]

Love, love, love Felix but you do have to wonder where he would fit in with having Nkunku here already who is a very similar player with a better end product. Still welcoming him with open arms though. 

[milka 3,407]

Maresca is unlikely to have any say in transfers he is  just coach to training these players . Clownlake make their schemes as it is advantageous for them with the selection if it were otherwise, there would be no talk of how Gallagher does not fit into his style, given that they have not even worked a day together.

[Superblue 6,372]

Agree with what seems largely the general consensus on here for Felix.

Clearly an extremely talented player, and clearly someone with enormous potential that COULD someday be unlocked.

But I'm really struggling with where he fits in. He's somebody that I think has just found himself in the wrong era, where a lot of these flamboyant, creative second strikers find themselves marginalised in more rigid structures in today's game. Without comparing the two, I've always wondered how a player like Zola would fare in today's game, and could see a player like him stuck in a similar situation where a lot of the top teams play in a way that doesn't play to such a player's strengths, or a player of that ilk isn't prioritised.

He's probably a good option from the bench when chasing games and he's perhaps afforded more freedom in such situations. But would he want a bigger role, almost certainly.

I can't lie, he is the kind of player that is intriguing. But a lot of players in that criteria, will end up going club to club and find themselves flattering to deceive throughout their careers. 

Having said that, the news that he's willing to take a large pay cut to fit into the structure here to come back is an encouraging sign. If somebody can unlock that potential it could be an absolute masterstroke. I just don't see it unfortunately.

As a side note, not fussed about the Samu deal breaking down. I really like what I've seen of Guiu in the pre season, and whilst he might not be currently ready, it seems unnecessary to buy another player of a similar age in his position. If we buy a striker, it has to be one ready now. Unless Maresca has grand designs of playing Felix there in a false nine system?!

[Pizy 19,252]

This Gallagher situation is so weird. He took and passed his medical, he has apparently been at Atleti training, the Atleti Twitter account posted media with him taking a tour of their stadium and facilities. It seemed as though it was a 100% done deal only missing the official announcement by the two clubs.

But now the deal is up in the air just because of the Omorodion situation? How can they afford to spend €95m on Alvarez with no real issue but can only sign Gallagher if a sale is made?

[DH1988 1,356]

I see Felix as the Alvarez transfer we weren't able to pull off to be honest. I get he wants fluid players but even against Inter in the second half balls were going into where strikers would be or should be. If it's a steal of a deal then fair, take a chance, same as the Victor deal, get some large players off our wages whilst we are at it. 

Just dislike the fact that players always seem to come in so late preseason and it puts them on the backfoot immediately. Moises suffered so bad from this. 

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I think Nahuel Molina could be a very interesting signing. He is very offensive and goes up and down all the game. He could replace Reece James while he is injured.

[LAM09 7,085]

I'm getting this feeling some deals are only being done to accommodate the merry-go-round. Signing Felix permanently (someone Atletico has been unable to shift for years) when we have Nkunku & Palmer makes no football sense. As much as people disliked the possible Samu transfer, it may have made sense in the long run. This screams bust already.

However, if any deal needs to be made that sees Sterling leave for good, I'm all for it. 

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1 hour ago, DDA said:

Love, love, love Felix but you do have to wonder where he would fit in with having Nkunku here already who is a very similar player with a better end product. Still welcoming him with open arms though. 

So you think Nkunku will play 3 games in a row this season? 🤣