Chelsea Transfers

[milka 3,393]

Everything at the club is an experiment players, coach nothing fits football logic like choosing the right profile of players to suit the coach because the coach will be yes man . The PR around Osimhen is over and we are getting another unknown player.

[Vesper 30,219]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

Their striker shortlist has largely thrown up physical beasts. Samu, Jhon Duran, Sesko, Gyokeres, Evan Ferguson. 
 

They are not as high on smaller players like Osimhen, Watkins, David, Alvarez

Osimhen is taller than Evan Ferguson and Duran. Only 1 cm shorter than Gyokeres. 

Do you even look up data before you post?

This board kills me at times. 😦😥🙄

[Vesper 30,219]

Samu Omorodion for Conor Gallagher should be the final straw for Chelsea fans

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-todd-boehly-out-omorodion-gallagher-final-straw-Chelsea-fans

Chelsea have swapped an academy star who captained the club he’s been at for the last 16 years in a season in which he played more football than any other player in the squad for an eight-goal striker that 95 per cent of the fans will never have heard of before the start of this transfer window, who we’re 95 per cent sure will join 95 per cent of the £1bn-worth of Clearlake signings thus far that have been a complete and utter waste of money.

Mr Boehly, Mr Eghbali, you can shove your pure-profit peddling, FFP-swerving amortisation tactics up your proverbials, we – or rather I – have had enough.

Two days after it was announced that Conor Gallagher would be joining Atletico Madrid for £36m, Chelsea agreed a £34.5m fee with the same club for Samu Omorodion. It is, to all intents and purposes, a swap deal. Omorodion has signed a seven-year deal and his transfer fee will be amortised (split) over five years, while Gallagher’s sale will appear as immediate pure profit. Financially, it makes sense. But that’s where the logic to these transfers begins and ends.

Gallagher was the heart, soul and lungs of Chelsea last season. Cole Palmer stole the headlines but Gallagher stole possession to make his feats of absurd quality possible. Moises Caicedo was twice the player with Gallagher alongside him and the fans really took to him and his unparalleled exuberance, particularly in those dark early months of the campaign when he was just about the only shining light. With the Cobham lad storming around the pitch Chelsea still felt – just about – like Chelsea.

In May, on the back of reports linking Tottenham with Gallagher, the fans unfurled a banner of his face with ‘Chelsea since birth’ emblazoned above it, which was ironically also the phrase underlined above a list of names in Todd Boehly’s office, with eight players – including Mason Mount, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Lewis Hall and Ian Maatsen – already crossed out.

Had Gallagher been signed last summer the insulting two years he was reportedly offered in a contract to remain at Stamford Bridge would have been tacked on to an existing eight-year deal. Imagine the delight in Enzo Fernandez producing anything like Gallagher’s performances. The only reason he’s being sold is because he’s been at ‘Chelsea since birth’.

Enzo Maresca says the rules are to blame.

“This is not Chelsea’s problem. This is the rules problem. The clubs are compelled to sell players because of the rules. It’s not a Chelsea problem, it is a Premier League problem. The intention from Chelsea is not to sell – but the rules in the end make us. I love that [Franceso] Totti was at Roma for 20 years and a one-club man. I love that, we all love that. It’s the rules. My personal opinion is it’s a shame because we all like to see a one-club man. If we want to promote academy players – yes, change the rule.”

Any rule that sees a club benefit far more from selling academy players than anyone else is daft. We can all agree on that. But this is also definitely a Chelsea problem. The Rules didn’t force them to spend £1.2bn on players and managerial pay-offs. They knew The Rules when they were spending that money and have always been aware of the cost of those failed investments, but they pay no mind to the feelings of the fans and the academy products those fans are intrinsically linked to.

It makes you wonder what their limit is. Just how much potential or talent does an academy product have to have before they’re considered unsellable? Would Chelsea currently be considering offers for Reece James if he hadn’t been injured for so much of last season? Real Madrid want a right-back. It’s hard to imagine them turning their noses up at £60m if it was put on the table right now.

Chelsea fans shouldn’t be waiting for that moment to come, because it will. The owners will currently feel as though they’re getting away with it. They’ve taken the Champions League winners to the Europa Conference League having bankrolled the signing of Palmer and a bunch of also-rans by selling the majority of the first-team players who truly know what the club means, and they’ve barely faced any backlash.

Clearly not enough for them to divert from The Project anyway, as the signing of Omorodion exemplifies on the back of fellow unknown quantities Marc Guiu, Omari Kellyman, Renato Veiga and Caleb Wiley also joining this summer. Who the bloody hell are they, you ask? Absolutely no idea.

Some might come good. Most won’t. And apparently they’re fine with that. I’m not though, and neither should other Chelsea fans, when the owners’ only way of realising their failing policy is to get rid of the players that keep Chelsea feeling like Chelsea, rather than what it is now becomgin: some franchised American play-thing whose roots are being periodically ripped out in the guise of progress that we’ve seen no sign of and shouldn’t accept anyway when it comes at such a cost.

Edited August 8, 2024 by Vesper

[TheHulk 2,482]

41 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Osimhen is taller than Evan Ferguson and Duran. Only 1 cm shorter than Gyokeres. 

Do you even look up data before you post?

This board kills me at times. 😦😥🙄

He is talking about physical build not height I think.

Edited August 8, 2024 by TheHulk

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Come on Boehly -you might have sacked most of the academy staff, but theres plenty of 16 year old Brazilians we can give 7 year contracts to before loaning out

[TheHulk 2,482]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Come on Boehly -you might have sacked most of the academy staff, but theres plenty of 16 year old Brazilians we can give 7 year contracts to before loaning out

Murillo and Gremio incoming.

[Pizy 18,948]

I predict our incoming business will be done following Omorodion. Then it’s all about trying to move on as many unwanted players as we can.

I only see new incomings happening if we carry on conceding silly amounts of goals through the first few PL matches. Then we’ll panic buy a defender again.

[TheHulk 2,482]

7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I predict our incoming business will be done following Omorodion. Then it’s all about trying to move on as many unwanted players as we can.

I only see new incomings happening if we carry on conceding silly amounts of goals through the first few PL matches. Then we’ll panic buy a defender again.

Clearlake masterclass summer.

[Mhsc 1,098]

Is Disasi our 'veteran' CB now?

[Pizy 18,948]

I’m just trying to look at the positives and I remain pretty optimistic unlike most of our fanbase.

No injuries in preseason for Lavia, Nkunku, or Reece so far. Lavia in particular has been a beast. We look as though we actually have a clue in attack now and this is before Palmer & Jackson have even started yet. I think KDH will be very solid for us.

I’m not as optimistic as I was earlier in the summer when I figured we’d go big on a marquee striker, winger, and GK but I will choose to think that a side which missed top 4 by the skin of our teeth last season and are now getting 3-4 big players who improve our first XI back from injury will be perfectly capable of fighting for 4th.  

It’ll be a scrap and probably go to the wire, but our squad is good enough for 4th. There’s no planet on which anyone can say that Newcastle, Villa, United, Spuds, and West Ham have squads more talented than ours and those clubs will all have the thought entering the season that they will finish in the UCL places. So why shouldn’t we?

[Strike 7,492]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Osimhen is taller than Evan Ferguson and Duran. Only 1 cm shorter than Gyokeres. 

Do you even look up data before you post?

This board kills me at times. 😦😥🙄

Do you ?
 

Think you have got it wrong. Ferguson is couple of cms taller than Osimhen (Transfermarkt)

and it isn’t only a direct comparison of height but also the type of forwards. Board has generally liked forwards that are target men

[Mário César 1,282]

but when are we going to stop buying young players?

this is crazy 

[milka 3,393]

Petrovic is better than Sanchez and probably than Jorgensen , Chalobah is better than all of our defnders , Gallagher is better than Enzo, Caicedo , KDH like energy and pressing is  tells you everything about what wrongers run this club .  Not only they not improve from the sold ones buy they also bought weakers .

[Pizy 18,948]

4 minutes ago, milka said:

Petrovic is better than Sanchez and probably than Jorgensen , Chalobah is better than all of our defnders , Gallagher is better than Enzo, Caicedo , KDH like energy and pressing is  tells you everything about what wrongers run this club .  Not only they not improve from the sold ones buy they also bought weakers .

This is just silly. If you’re this depressed and angry about Chelsea why watch? 

[DDA 9,941]

10 minutes ago, milka said:

Petrovic is better than Sanchez and probably than Jorgensen , Chalobah is better than all of our defnders , Gallagher is better than Enzo, Caicedo , KDH like energy and pressing is  tells you everything about what wrongers run this club .  Not only they not improve from the sold ones buy they also bought weakers .

Gallagher better than Caicedo?? 

🤨

[Pizy 18,948]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

Gallagher better than Caicedo?? 

🤨

I know a lot of our fans have turned on Enzo after an underwhelming season but to suggest Conor is better than him is equally as dumb. All 3 of our current CM’s have talent/potential to be world class. Gallagher is an above average workhorse and nothing more.

[Mário César 1,282]

43 minutes ago, milka said:

Petrovic is better than Sanchez and probably than Jorgensen , Chalobah is better than all of our defnders , Gallagher is better than Enzo, Caicedo , KDH like energy and pressing is  tells you everything about what wrongers run this club .  Not only they not improve from the sold ones buy they also bought weakers .

thats a fact 

[TheHulk 2,482]

 

[Vesper 30,219]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

Do you ?
 

Think you have got it wrong. Ferguson is couple of cms taller than Osimhen (Transfermarkt)

and it isn’t only a direct comparison of height but also the type of forwards. Board has generally liked forwards that are target men

The EPL official site lists Ferguson at 1.83m (Osimhen is 1.85m)

https://www.premierleague.com/players/71590/Evan-Ferguson/overview

[Vesper 30,219]

Atletico Madrid tried to cancel Gallagher transfer to finalise Guerra deal – Valencia sporting director

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5688639/2024/08/08/conor-gallagher-javi-guerra-atletico-madrid/

Valencia’s sporting director, Miguel Angel Corona, has claimed that Atletico Madrid tried to cancel Conor Gallagher’s impending transfer from Chelsea to facilitate a move for Javi Guerra.

Gallagher is set to complete his move to Atletico after travelling to Spain to seal his €42million transfer from the west London club. The Athletic reported last week that the Spanish side were in advanced talks with Chelsea about signing Gallagher after a fee was agreed between the two clubs.

While Atletico were pursuing Gallagher, they were also in advanced talks to sign midfielder Guerra. The Athletic reported earlier this week that they had agreed on a fee of around €25m (£21.4 million) plus add-ons, with Valencia holding a sell-on clause of around 15 per cent for the 21-year-old. However, the deal fell through after Valencia imposed a deadline on Wednesday for Atletico to finalise the transfer, threatening to withdraw if the conditions were not met. Sources close to Valencia, Atletico, and Guerra, who were not authorised to speak publicly on the matter, confirmed that the move collapsed.

Corona has since stated that Valencia “were not informed of anything regarding the link between the two” transfers. Atletico sources previously admitted that it would be “complicated” for the Guerra and Gallagher deals to both go ahead.

“There is a maximum agreement (between clubs) on Sunday, plus it was between the president of Valencia and the maximum shareholder of Atletico Madrid,” Corona said. On Monday, the documentation is developed and, in the same way, it goes in parallel with the player, who is advancing in this negotiation and almost closes the agreement.

“On Wednesday morning, due to the delay in the return of Atletico’s documents and some comments made, a specific question was asked to Atletico’s owner, about the situation, why the delay, and the answer was that they were trying to get out of the Chelsea operation and that, if they don’t succeed, they can’t face the Javi Guerra operation.

“It was the first news that we and Javi had about it, that the operations were linked, and therefore we (Valencia) got out of it because it was not a condition that was discussed on Sunday, Monday or Tuesday, when there were constant WhatsApps, emails, calls, comments on clauses…. We were not informed of anything regarding the link between the two and we got out of it to protect ourselves.”

Chelsea are unaware of Atletico attempting to cancel Gallagher’s deal, while Atletico sources say their sporting management were exploring various options before Valencia informed them on Wednesday that they were no longer honouring the agreement for Guerra.

GO DEEPER

Why Gallagher is nearing Chelsea exit: Shorter contract offers and concerns over free move

Having rejected three offers of a new contract, which included a two-year guarantee with an option for a third year, and would have put him on wages comparable to top earners like Enzo Fernandez and Moises Caicedo, Chelsea indicated to Gallagher that he would be sold to avoid risking losing him on a free transfer next summer.

Gallagher is expected to sign a five-year deal with Atletico. The 24-year-old enjoyed an impressive 2023-24 season, providing seven goals and nine assists in 50 appearances across all competitions.

That form earned him a key role in Gareth Southgate’s squad for the European Championship in Germany, where he made five appearances in England’s run to the final.